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2009-01-05, 20:51 | Link #1062 | |
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This is hilarious. Very fucking hilarious. You don't want us to go off-topic, then don't start. You have so far been the cause of this thread derailing from its original intention. You want to stay on topic? How about start analyzing the discussions and reply to them. I cannot be more clearer than this, if you still don't get it, God help you, because others won't. - Tak
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2009-01-05, 21:35 | Link #1065 | |
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Trust me, I've seen/experienced more intense "jumping" on other topics on this board. To get back on topic a little, going to restate my stand regarding Sheryl vs. Ranka. Sheryl - she has better character development and I liked her a lot more than Ranka on the latter half of the series. Starting the episode that Yasaburo found her in the rain to be exact. Ranka - she's cuter (I like cute characters >_<), and she got my attention more on the first half of the series. And she was my favourite up to the time she sang for the Zentran on Galia 4. At the episodes after that her character development seems to have been nerfed a lot. These debates are getting old, I wish the movie/OVA would be released soon.
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2009-01-05, 21:42 | Link #1066 |
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well kujoe then said Ranka of course cares about friends (even tho missing that act in some situation) then he said don't argue with two different things (with reasons for singing), which i was not, and after a little exchange, we settled it...
Then you used that dictator example, which I then used WW2 USA example, and then the discussion ended there... Now we should sort everything out... P.S Then BetoJR said it was all over again, then you followed with adding EVA reference..I don't know whether it was because I saw that Ranka in EVA background pic (in the beach? is it posted by you??) I don't like it lol, that pic simply gives me creeps XD, then I followed by taking the discussion in Sheryl fansclub instead..it was supposed to be a tongue in cheek, but like you suggested, ppl missed my wink as I missed your wink on that neg-rep comment...it was still going on fine until someone said I discredited ppl...I asked him how I discredited ppl...I was waiting for his reply and then you jumped at it...then the hell finally broke loose that was the best i can summerize...so my discussion ended with using WWII USA examle
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2009-01-05, 21:53 | Link #1067 | |
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As for the reply to yours, the comparison using dictators was not to compare who made more damage, or whose case was more extreme. The point was that, regardless of the outcome, regardless of heeding responsibilities, the damage was already committed, and time was simply irreversible. I am not convinced that Ranka really cared for her friends and family as opposed to only using them as a source of comfort (ie. they are only valuable when they say yes to her). If she really did care for them, she would have sang for them during the funeral. To her, she thought everyone else was using her as a tool, even her family, friends and especially Alto. By choosing to enclose herself in that thought, she immediately dismissed all the love, care and encouragement her friends provided and chose Berera's opinions, whom she met only days ago. Had she forgotten that she was cared and loved even prior to her becoming a star? Then she bolted on episode 22. Regardless of her supposed lofty goals, she had chosen the absolute worse methods of handling it. Wishing Alto to go with her after one of his friends was killed, after the entire colony was just ravaged by the Vajra, and at a time when the moral of the entire colony was at its lowest. One can only wonder how she came up with her decision, at that point in time, because it appeared to me that she had lost all proper sense of logic. In fact, I thought she was stupid. Then she decided to take on an entire enemy world with... two people and a plane. Does that not look fishy? Its not a surprise when Kawamori himself stated that Ranka should "comprehend her surroundings". That statement was not out of the blue. Despite her noble intentions (as some R-Fans would like to believe, which some of us are utterly unconvinced), I don't see how anyone can excuse her from her irrationality and stupidity. Allow me to also remind you that after episode 21, she no longer confronted or even mentioned any of her friends, except Sheryl, then again, she treated Sheryl more as a rival. - Tak
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2009-01-05, 22:14 | Link #1068 |
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lol i never thought I have to do this...but where is the wink in the following pic? Are we talking about the same quote?
Edit: Then Ranka cured Sheryl in ep 25...I think Ranka treats Sheryl as a friend if going out the outer space means not caring the friends and families then the whole squard in macross quarter don't care about their friends and family also? Hey there must be ppl who is on MQ that his/her friend got killed/hurt and those families still stayed in MF...but then the whole MQ escaped and left the MF defenseless..so taking your standard then the whole MQ crews are heartless. I think the truth is that MQ and Ranka want to see the truth behind all of this...and crews in MQ and Ranka all want to save their friends/loved one by going outer space. As for the singing in the funeral, I have said that she could handle it better
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2009-01-05, 22:22 | Link #1069 | |
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Oh dear... to even think you'd go through such lengths to photo that. *chuckle* I am speechless. Just let it out justavisitor, if you have hots for me, just say it. I see a clear obsession developing, and I think its better out than in. But to quickly answer your question. No. - Tak
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2009-01-05, 22:23 | Link #1070 | |
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What irked me in the series was despite all of Ranka's stupidity and selfishness that brought a lot of crap to everyone, she was left unpunished for it. Curing Sheryl isn't really enough to forgive her for the stupidity. (On another note, I always wondered how Ranka knew about Sheryl's disease...and why the hell she didn't cure her right away instead of slapping her. )
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2009-01-05, 22:38 | Link #1073 | |
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- Tak (and here you go again, derailing this discussion off topic)
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2009-01-05, 22:40 | Link #1074 |
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Sry, I always meant this quote, from the very beginning...(that's why I used the photo to settle this once and for all)
Edit: I am not derailing...you kept saying the wink, which I simply cannot find from THAT quote and I always meant that quote..I really think it's better to make it clear...
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2009-01-05, 22:43 | Link #1075 | |
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2009-01-05, 22:47 | Link #1076 |
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I thought you meant that quote was a sarcasm that didn't go well...now I don't have any reason to doubt you, do I? I simply let it go..and then you said the wink...I finally decided to photo it..and it turns out that we are saying different quotes, which is fine, and I am glad that it is settled
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2009-01-05, 22:51 | Link #1077 | |
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Look what you done... I am so dead. - Tak (I have nothing to do with this)
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2009-01-05, 23:02 | Link #1078 | |
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And to really clear the misunderstanding that have caused derailing in this thread, Tak means this quote : http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...postcount=2838 not the one you just photoed on the above, justavisitor. Misunderstandings do wonders...
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2009-01-05, 23:40 | Link #1080 |
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@Natsuki Hyuga
but then I followed up with http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...postcount=2839 and this http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...postcount=2840 I explicitly quoted his quote and then he said that sarcasm things...well glad it's a misunderstanding and I rest my case P.S thanks for showing me how to display a single thread, now i don't need to photo it XD Edit:hmm....i think i finally start to realize how big the misunderstanding has caused...all I can say is...hmm..
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