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Perfect 10 | 198 | 45.52% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 88 | 20.23% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 70 | 16.09% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 32 | 7.36% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 12 | 2.76% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 8 | 1.84% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 2 | 0.46% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 2 | 0.46% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 1 | 0.23% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 22 | 5.06% | |
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2011-10-03, 22:57 | Link #921 |
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Ranga92 i knew you would disagree with me..i never said all the fans want fsn remake or sequel..i also didn't say the 6th war is a must..again i didn't day they have to combine the stories of udw or hf in the remake of fsn..ufotable can bring some changes themselves..i should stick with my idea about remake of fsn...thanks to cherry lover for her /his explanation..to who love bittersweet endings:IF ED DIED AT THE END OF FMAB YOU WOULD SURELY HAVE SAID IT WAS EPIC...IF LALOUCH WAS STILL SHOWEN AS THE KING AT THE END YOU WOULD HAVE SAID IT WAS A DOWNER ENDING..IF LIGHT WAS ALIVE YOU MIGHT HAVE LOVE IT..FSN ending was never an epic ending cause both saber's and shrio's wishes didn't come true..saber never got what she wanted..shiro's charecter was wasted just for 10 minutes..hoping fate zero will be great and prompt uft and aplex for fsn..
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2011-10-03, 23:52 | Link #922 | |
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Plus, Saber didn't get her wish because she understood it wasn't a wish that should have been granted. She remained the king. Realta Nua fixed the "together" part in an acceptable (for F/SN) way. Not sure what your point about Shirou was. And Lelouch is alive It is given as such, plus when you get UBW ending, HF isn't taken into account. Even if it does, you have to really try to take HF into account because it's not even an afterthought when you're in UBW route. In that sense, the issue in UBW is resolved with the UBW couple as alive and well as it can, and pretty happy about it, unlike both Fate and HF (especially HF).
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2011-10-04, 00:58 | Link #923 |
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Saber is the main focous in fate and ubw(archer also)+fsn manga+carnival phantasam and fate zero..i have already told you that udw should go with the good end+holy grail should be used..ABOUT HF IS WITHOUT ANY UNDOUBT THE WEAKEST ROUTE..I AM QUITE SURPRISED HOW CAN A GAME HAS Three ending.."the holy grail can never be dystroyed by sacrificing one's life"..so you consider..THE THINGS I PREFER MOST ABOUT AN ANIME ARE...FATE OF MAIN Charecters and ending.THIS IS WHY I LIKE CG AND FMAB..I KNOW LALOUCH IS ALIVE..
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2011-10-04, 03:39 | Link #924 | |||
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Since when are the "main couple" in HF not "happy"? Or, indeed, "alive and well"? Quote:
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2011-10-04, 04:01 | Link #925 |
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I have gone through HF...IT was quite funny..dark..dark..shrio's mentality....weakest because have no such believable ending.(way of vanishing the grail).UBW..rin,archer,saber,shiro..I AM NOW READING THE MANGA..HOPING FOR A HAPPY ending..fate zero..amiya and saber main charecters..
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2011-10-04, 05:47 | Link #926 |
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Really? Cause I personally thought Heaven's Feel was the best of the three routes, and I don't really see what's so unbelievable about the ending...
As for Fate Zero, Kiritsugu and Saber are important characters, but so are Irisviel, Waver, Kirei, etc etc etc. Can hardly call any them the 'main' characters, because the story isn't about them, its about everyone. |
2011-10-04, 06:53 | Link #927 |
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Have you really gone trough HF, Jsmith? Because that is the route where Shirou's mentality is the strongest. The only route were he really knows what he truly wants to do. And that is to protect the ones that are close to him.
And why isn't the ending believable? Spoiler for HF:
And Saber is not the main focus of F/SN she never was, she is the poster girl though. And in UBW she isnt even close to being the focus She isn't even the third, that place goes to Rin, I wouldn't even say that she is fourth since the route is more focused on other characters dilemmas than Saber. Saber had her time to shine in Fate and got the ending that was best for her. her wish was never meant to be granted, and she realized that herself. Had Shirou or anyone else wished for her to stay,and the grail had granted that, she would have been corrupted. And the manga will without a doubt end up the same way as fate did in the end. The mangaka has always been looking forward to drawing the last scene, he said so in the first volume. He won't change that. I don't even understand why you had such a problem with the ending. Of course it was sad but thats life. Saber was doomed to disappear. I always found her fate in the UBW good ending rather sad since she never found her 'answer' which means that she still doesn't know what to do, what her place in the world is and so on.
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2011-10-04, 09:24 | Link #928 | |
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Spoiler for HF true ending:
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2011-10-04, 09:54 | Link #931 | |
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2011-10-04, 11:15 | Link #932 |
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No its mainly Fate, but it was going in the UBW direction for a while (also included som alternate retellings of HF), but now it's back on the way towards fate again (damn, I wanted it to do the UBW route).
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2011-10-04, 13:00 | Link #934 |
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Well something that we cant ignore is the fact that the whole idea of setting up the Saber/Fate route was only to let the player know the basics and relevant information about what is the grail war and stuff. They even describe the Fate route in the last tiger dojo as nothing more as an introduction to the main game that its UBW and HF.
The author said several times that Fate, UBW and HF all of them happens in alternative universe or dimensions so all the endings are true BUT HF its considered the main route simply because Hollow ataraxia as well as Fate zero took that story line to build or expand the fate universe. Now here comes what took a lot of people by surprise. Bck in 2004, A HUGE and I mean a HUGE amount of people RAGE about the ending in the Fate route. The game did a pretty good job making the player care enough for Saber to the point that they even got letters asking the author to explain what the hell happen there (but we will go there in a bit). Back in 2004 like every year since the game was released they published their first popularity poll and saber pretty much crushed everyone else while Sakura even when she was pretty much the mainstream of the history she ranked 17th or something like that. So that's the thing... although the original plan was to set Saber as nothing more of an introduction, she pretty much took the leading role in the audience preferences and even today 7 YEARS later she never fails to rank in the top 10 of type moon females characters and top 20 in anime females in general. Going back a little about those letters I told you before the ending we know in realt Nua and the manga its the author fault (lol). In 2005 he said that in the Fate route Shirou ends as a guardian but since Saber change him a little bit he became stronger in his resolve about his dream. Then people went crazy and they create that "extra" ending we know with Saber and Shirou. Man Saber needs a true hollywood story episode. Last edited by alumnox; 2011-10-04 at 13:14. |
2011-10-04, 13:11 | Link #935 |
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I can't say I remember the 5th movie all that well xP I always assumed the first one was fake Plus Touko is Touko, very few mages in TypeMoon can pull stuff like that, so it could be a bit more special (or have a better affect) when done for herself. Anyway, I'd rather pick HF's good ending actually over something like that Although long-haired Sakura is nice.
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2011-10-04, 13:15 | Link #937 | |
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Yes, the Fate route was an intro, but an intro is important. Well anyway don't know why fans were so depressed about the "Fate" route ending. I was satisfied but that's just me.. Last edited by Ragna92; 2011-10-04 at 13:27. |
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2011-10-04, 15:33 | Link #939 |
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@usami haru-fate route and anime wouldn't have exsisted without saber.she is not the poster girl..the same thing goes for ubw!shiro metalily surely got strong in HF.. He learnt to only save sakura.WHY DIDN'T HE ATTEMT TO SAVE SABER,RIN AND ILLIYA AT THE TIME OF NEED..YOU SAY THE HOLY GRAIL LIED WITHIN ILLIYA..so the holy grail concept is like toys to you like it can hide in ones body..IF Its the end result than 5th war shouldn't have been there..it would have figured out in the 4th war..the holy grail should have vanished..it was never said that if holy grail grants one's wish who has won the grail war he/she would be corrupted by it..it was the for getting the grail and making their wish come true -for which all the master of 1st-5th war fought for..they never desired to dytroy it(expect shiro and his father.I DON'T KNOW WHy they did that)..finally i should go on with the manga..
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