Macross Frontier - Speculation Thread [Spoilers]

[cerrian]

Maybe somebody could clarify this for me. Every time I watch the OP and see the colonization routes I keep thinking that the 21st fleet (Galaxy) is suppose to play some kind of important role in the story. I don't think the 21st fleet has even been mentioned in the 4 episodes so far. Perhaps someone has an idea if and how the Galaxy fleet might tie in to Frontier's story.

[4Tran]

Well, Sheryl seems to originate from Macross Galaxy, but that's as much importance that can be attributed to that aspect of the story. It's certainly possible for the Galaxy fleet to play a much bigger part, but we won't know for at least a few episodes. Besides, at this time we don't know anything about Macross Galaxy (or the Vajra, for that matter).

[Westlo]

I thought it was confirmed (not in any actual episode) that Galaxy was frontier's

Spoiler:

sister fleet, similar to the one in 7... was it 5? been a few years since I watched that...

[Onizuka-GTO]

Originally Posted by Westlo

I thought it was confirmed (not in any actual episode) that Galaxy was frontier's

Spoiler:

sister fleet, similar to the one in 7... was it 5? been a few years since I watched that...

really?

that's strange because Macross frontier was launched around 2012, a 2nd generation ship, originally from Earth.

Basically part of the changing philosophy of colonial strategy, of providing colony fleets with more protection as oppose to the non-transforming Megaroad class.

Eden was colonies in 2013 by Megaroad 04, (one year!) from there Macross Galaxy was launched, which will make Macross Galaxy technically part of the 2nd colonial wave.

Spoiler:

so, unless the definition of a "Sister" fleet means something different in the Macross universe, i doubt it is a "sister" fleet.

edit: Unless of course, M-Galaxy has the same colonial class ships as M-Frontier, but only newer?

[Westlo]

Maybe sister fleet is the wrong term (Galaxy is the 21st fleet though going by the first scene in episode 1 so they should be pretty similar or close) but they are traveling parallel to each other in the same direction. We should get a good look at Macross Galaxy some time this season, looking at episode titles maybe sooner than later.. Also maybe the guy voiced by Hoshi at the end of the OP is from Galaxy?

[Onizuka-GTO]

erm....

the number don't really make a difference, M-Frontier is the 25th fleet from EARTH.

M-Galaxy is the 21st fleet from EDEN.

even if they are close numerically, it's just a coincident.

I mean M-Frontier actually went wide towards the Galactic rim, before looping anti-spiralward (not quite as far as Eden) before heading towards the galactic core.

M-Galaxy on the other hand, left Eden and went straight towards the core.

It's obviously that M-Frontier was deliberately routed toward the core, probably by the direction of UN Spacy HQ. While M-Galaxy was planned from the start to go in that direction.

[Tak]

Some things are confirmed in Episode 5, such as:

Spoiler for Open if you dare:

The Vajra are revealed by our very helpful Leon (asshole) as pilot-less biological weapons. And yes, they react to Ranka's songs

Originally Posted by 4Tran

Besides, at this time we don't know anything about Macross Galaxy (or the Vajra, for that matter).

First of all, Macross Galaxy, according to Sheryl, is not exactly an interesting place to be at. But,

Spoiler for What happened to Macross Galaxy?:

According to the end of Episode 5, a pilot barely escaped with his life from Macross Galaxy and is calling for help. Not hard to guess what happened.

So, there you have it for MACROSS GALAXY.

- Tak

[Onizuka-GTO]

Originally Posted by Onizuka-GTO

speculation for episode 5.

sheryl caught Altro near his school, or close by.

evidence: he is wearing his uniform, obviously on the way there.

evidence 2: no prior evidence suggest she knows where he lives, hence in ep2 she went to the S.M.S building and not to his house/place.

evidence 3: she knows he is from the fleets most "prestige fleet school" so she wait for him nearby, because the information was available from the beginning provided by cathy/and or the organisers of the concert.

question: how does to tie in with the erm....raunchy preview?

theory: because sheryl is near a school, some student spot her.

evidence: her disguise pathetic and is worse then the last one.

conclusion: she will gather a lot of attention and fans.

this will lead to a cat and mouse chase, with both of them. fans want sheryl and simultaneously kill the man wearing the same uniform as them, that she seems to be holding hands "affectionately" with.



theory: Altro will try to find a place to hide, either nearby the school or in he school itself.

conclusion: Altro & Sheryl will have to hide together, in a dark place.

evidence: the preview was dark and she seems to be pushed or cramped.


maybe they hid in a store room, or a locker or something cramped, to get away from the mob of students.

theory: Ranka/Nena will see them running away together.
conclusion: misunderstanding.

evidence: my hentai intuition

*looks at episode 5 screenies*

Woohoo!

dammn i hit the mark close!


Can't wait to watch it and the preview to make another crack!

[AlaAlba]

I wonder what the meaning behind next title episode "Bye Bye Sheryl"? Macross Galaxy were under attacked anyway so I think she cant go back that easily...

[ipernorris]

Originally Posted by Tak

Some things are confirmed in Episode 5, such as:

Spoiler for Open if you dare:

The Vajra are revealed by our very helpful Leon (asshole) as pilot-less biological weapons. And yes, they react to Ranka's songs

I think it's crucial to understand if Vajra reacts to songs in general or to Ranka's songs only: this may be the explanation about why Ranka survived and the other passangers did not.

Spoiler for What happened to Macross Galaxy?:

According to the end of Episode 5, a pilot barely escaped with his life from Macross Galaxy and is calling for help. Not hard to guess what happened.

So, there you have it for MACROSS GALAXY.

- Tak

Yeah I think we won't see Macross Galaxy, but this means that...

Spoiler:

the Vajra aren't just small groups of hostile aliens, but they are an organized and powerful civilization because only this way they can take down an entire colonization fleet. What we've seen so far are just scouts I guess.

[ReddyRedWolf]

Seeing the reaction of the Vajra to Ranka's song I may have to re-evaluate who is behind the Vajra.

The Vajra was in a state of near death only to be revaltilized by Ranka's song.

In Macross 7 sound energy can increase the Spiritia within lifeforms.

I think the energy we saw on the Vajra is Spiritia.

If this is so Macross Frontier isn't facing any ordinary Protoculture by-product of war, they are facing the last survivors of the Protoculture, the Anima Spiritia.

[ApostleOfGod]

Regardless of origin:

Sheryl better win between her and Ranka for Saotome. That is all.

[Tak]

Originally Posted by ApostleOfGod

Regardless of origin:

Sheryl better win between her and Ranka for Saotome. That is all.

That you don't have to worry. According to Macross tradition, such is the most likely pair.

- Tak (Unless Kawamori decides to pull a Tomino on us, then we are f*cked)

[encia]

Originally Posted by ReddyRedWolf

Seeing the reaction of the Vajra to Ranka's song I may have to re-evaluate who is behind the Vajra.

The Vajra was in a state of near death only to be revaltilized by Ranka's song.

In Macross 7 sound energy can increase the Spiritia within lifeforms.

I think the energy we saw on the Vajra is Spiritia.

If this is so Macross Frontier isn't facing any ordinary Protoculture by-product of war, they are facing the last survivors of the Protoculture, the Anima Spiritia.

How about Macross Zero's birdman unit, Sara's song and resulting life regeneration? Vajra's markings is similar to Macross Zero's markings on the floating rocks.

[Tak]

Originally Posted by encia

How about Macross Zero's birdman unit, Sara's song and resulting life regeneration? Vajra's markings is similar to Macross Zero's markings on the floating rocks.

The BIRDMAN unit was neither a Supervision unit nor a Zentradi unit. It was a Protoculture biomechanical unit, which was very similar to the Vajra, but vastly more powerful.

Indeed, the folks at Macross F is facing 'THE' protoculture.

- Tak (If we are lucky, we might even see the 'Birdman' supporting Vajra warriors)

[encia]

Originally Posted by Onizuka-GTO

yay for competitive market?

It's capitalism...

[encia]

Originally Posted by Tak

The BIRDMAN unit was neither a Supervision unit nor a Zentradi unit. It was a Protoculture biomechanical unit, which was very similar to the Vajra, but vastly more powerful.
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The birdman unit has the materialization technology.
Materialization corresponds to comparably large energy requirement and production.

Originally Posted by Tak

Indeed, the folks at Macross F is facing 'THE' protoculture.

- Tak (If we are lucky, we might even see the 'Birdman' supporting Vajra warriors)

I was focusing on the common spiral markings.

Well M-F's screenwriter Hiroyuki Yoshino also help in writing Mai-HIME/Mai-Otome i.e. similarities between controllers/conductor/slave lord and bio-mechanical slave units.

[Onizuka-GTO]

that makes me wonder, wil lwe find a SARA in stasis of a "Birdman"?

Will Nome see a family resemblance? or not?

That is the question.

[SpaceDrake]

Originally Posted by Onizuka-GTO

that makes me wonder, wil lwe find a SARA in stasis of a "Birdman"?

Will Nome see a family resemblance? or not?

That is the question.

It's pretty obvious really.

Spoiler for For speculation:

I doubt they're sisters, but I suspect Ranka and Sheryl are related somehow, and I suspect the Vajra are searching for the two of them. Are we forgetting how the big Vajra was hesitating before Ranka? Was it confirming what she was? It didn't hesitate to kill Gilliam or attack anything that got in its way, and it could blast Ranka to ash in a second if it wanted to. So why didn't it? Why was it looking at her for so long? Simple: it was sent to retrieve her and it was confirming that she was the target.

[Cadorna]

06 "Bye Bye Sheryl" May 8, 2008

07 "First Attack" May 15, 2008

08 "High School Queen" May 22, 2008

09 "Friendly Fire" May 29, 2008

I found this to speculate about, so who is gonna be shot down in ep 9, i think shouta will