To Aru Majutsu no Index II - Episode 19 Discussion / Poll

[Marcus H.]

I think Index is more like Victorique du Blois from Gosick.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Shinji103

Well the thing with law enforcement groups in anime, is that a lot of animes are sci-fi and thus have people with superpowers running around blowing stuff up; not quite something the police can handle, even with machineguns and rocket launchers. How often do police do anything more than support in Superman comics/cartoons?

The FBI did just fine in [Fringe]

In Toaru's case, it's a fact that Powers don't automatically put you at the top, and despite our impressions, Anti-Skill has manage to keep general law and order, so it's kinda hard not to expect a bit more for their on screen performance as compared to people that 'cant do anything against superpowers' from the old comic books.

Originally Posted by Marcus H.

I think Index is more like Victorique du Blois from Gosick.

Unlike Victorique, Index is more dere than tsun

[ahelo]

Originally Posted by Marcus H.

I think Index is more like Victorique du Blois from Gosick.

Victorique is cuter imo. Index whines too much... and bites.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by ahelo

Victorique is cuter imo. Index whines too much... and bites.

Lol and Victorique doesn't? Or did you just omitted those scenes from your head ?

[ahelo]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Lol and Victorique doesn't? Or did you just omitted those scenes from your head ?

Its easier to omitt Victorique's than Index's
my opinion only though.

[eiyuu99]

Index's antics help to emphasize Touma's daily misfortune.

[bizzi]

Originally Posted by eiyuu99

Index's antics help to emphasize Touma's daily misfortune.

That makes sense

[Miraluka]

Originally Posted by ahelo

Its easier to omitt Victorique's than Index's
my opinion only though.
Victorique is cuter imo. Index whines too much... and bites.

Obvious, you don't have any other rival girl to root for .

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Wilfriback

Obvious, you don't have any other rival girl to root for .

Even if you take that out of the equation, in essence both girls are about the same.

[I_am_Kami]

I know it's late making comments on eps but I forgot to say I wish they gave LO a different crying face.

[FlareKnight]

Should be interesting to see how this whole situation gets handled. Obviously have the powerful magician to tackle and LO is being targeted. Also have to wonder how many more times Accelerator and Touma are going to swap lolis .

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Even if you take that out of the equation, in essence both girls are about the same.

Maybe, though I'd still put the girl who doesn't go around biting someone all the time above the one that does .

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by FlareKnight

Maybe, though I'd still put the girl who doesn't go around biting someone all the time above the one that does .

Ah but being given the cold shoulders is alot worse, as we men have zero idea what women want if they don't tell us

...Plus she could drop a heavy book on you

[ahelo]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Ah but being given the cold shoulders is alot worse, as we men have zero idea what women want if they don't tell us

...Plus she could drop a heavy book on you

meh biting's worse.
It's only my opinion though.

[eiyuu99]

Compared to what Touma has faced, the biting is kinda the tip of the iceberg.
You could blame the setting on Touma.

[dragon132004]

I've been thinking as to why Kihara able to interfere with Accelerator reflection field, it seems Kihara is changing the signs in a vector representation of velocity and he has as well to switch velocity direction between the time when he enters Accelerator's area of control and when Accelerator actually does the reflection. In reversing the trajectory, he has to also make sure to stay within Accelerator's area of control until the reflection does happen because he has to have sense the AIM dispersion field which be the signal that Accelerator is activating his abilities. We're not only talking about "pulling back" or the force from your muscles leading to acceleration but it has to have to do with changing the vector direction as well as the time as to when initiating the process... and that's possible because the initial force/vector represent Accelerator own force which is not that much compared to Kihara physical strength.. Now below is a simple diagram that I worked it out so I'd like to hear what you think about that guys:



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[I_am_Kami]

Originally Posted by dragon132004

I've been thinking as to why Kihara able to interfere with Accelerator reflection field, it seems Kihara is changing the signs in a vector representation of velocity and he has as well to switch velocity direction between the time when he enters Accelerator's area of control and when Accelerator actually does the reflection. In reversing the trajectory, he has to also make sure to stay within Accelerator's area of control until the reflection does happen because he has to have sense the AIM dispersion field which be the signal that Accelerator is activating his abilities. We're not only talking about "pulling back" or the force from your muscles leading to acceleration but it has to have to do with changing the victor direction as well as the time as to when initiating the process... and that's possible because the initial force/vector represent Accelerator own force which is not that much compared to Kihara physical strength.. Now below is a simple diagram that I worked it out so I'd like to hear what you think about that guys:



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ur overthinking something that kihara explained in just 2 sentences. Don't worry so was everyone else. go back a page or 2 and chaos2frozen explains it

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by ahelo

meh biting's worse.
It's only my opinion though.

After the biting, comes the hugging!

Originally Posted by dragon132004

I've been thinking as to why Kihara able to interfere with Accelerator reflection field, it seems Kihara is changing the signs in a vector representation of velocity and he has as well to switch velocity direction between the time when he enters Accelerator's area of control and when Accelerator actually does the reflection. In reversing the trajectory, he has to also make sure to stay within Accelerator's area of control until the reflection does happen because he has to have sense the AIM dispersion field which be the signal that Accelerator is activating his abilities. We're not only talking about "pulling back" or the force from your muscles leading to acceleration but it has to have to do with changing the victor direction as well as the time as to when initiating the process... and that's possible because the initial force/vector represent Accelerator own force which is not that much compared to Kihara physical strength.. Now below is a simple diagram that I worked it out so I'd like to hear what you think about that guys:

Spoiler for size:

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I can tell you one thing; nothing about that diagram looks simple to me

(<- I'm with stupid)

[dragon132004]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

After the biting, comes the hugging!




I can tell you one thing; nothing about that diagram looks simple to me

(<- I'm with stupid)

Hmm.. I see, well iV = is the Vector that initiated with Accelerator actual strength and F= is the factor in which Accel. choose to increase his Vector force which play an important role in giving Accelerator such an insane power. Now what I am saying is that Kihara manipulating Accelerator's own iV and that's possible because that Vector force is coming from a normal high school boy so Kihara can match it if he knows the exact time as to when that Vector occurs before taking the shape of that Accelerator's huge mass effect. So after replacing that first Vector with the exact opposite one that it will cause it to diminish in effect so it will negating Accelerator owns equations for his reflection field.. The rest after nullifying Accelerator defenses is up to Kihara's strength, like his own punch's strength because if all what Kihara was doing is "pulling back his fist" alone then he wouldn't be able to deliver damage to Accelerator.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by dragon132004

Hmm.. I see, well iV = is the Vector that initiated with Accelerator actual strength and F= is the factor in which Accel. choose to increase his Vector force which play an important role in giving Accelerator such an insane power. Now what I am saying is that Kihara manipulating Accelerator's own iV and that's possible because that Vector force is coming from a normal high school boy so Kihara can match it if he knows the exact time as to when that Vector occurs before taking the shape of that Accelerator's huge mass effect. So after replacing that first Victor with the exact opposite one that it will cause it to diminish in effect so it will negating Accelerator owns equations for his reflection field.. The rest after nullifying Accelerator defenses is up to Kihara's own strength for ex. like his punch strength because if all what Kihara was doing is "pulling back his fist" alone then he wouldn't be able to deliver damage to Accelerator.

So what you're saying is... Redirection itself applies an extra bit of force to every thing it reflects So even if Kihara's force is zero, he uses Redirection's own applied force and probably follow through with abit more of his own, right?

[dragon132004]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

So what you're saying is... Redirection itself applies an extra bit of force to every thing it reflects So even if Kihara's force is zero, he uses Redirection's own applied force and probably follow through with abit more of his own, right?

Yea, the Accelerator's Redirection or reflection field is usually set to default by Accelerator himself that letting him redirect every incoming vector force with the exact same amount but in the opposite direction like what happened to the car in this episode or like the Sisters Arc. Of course Accel. can change the setting for his field if he wishes for the outcome force to be larger. Now Kihara what he is doing is making the income Vector force = zero so the outcome Vector force =zero by manipulating the V directions and During that opening only Kihara let's what's left of his force do the extra damage to Accelerator.