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justpassingby · 2012-08-31, 04:31

^Without rope
It's the same reason for why any girl would fall for Yoshiharu: He saved her life.

Spoiler for Yoshiharu, Katsuchiyo, Kazumasu:

When Yoshiharu and Kazumasu met Shingen at the secret hotspring, he asked for her sign (autograph).
Yoshiharu hold Shingen's shoulder and bury his face on her chests because he was sad regarding Nobuna's treatment toward him. It was the first time that she met such a vulgar man that didn't fear Takeda Shingen.
After Yoshiharu revealed that he's from the future, Shingen asked why did he went to serve Oda instead of her. Yoshiharu took his time before answering, and it made Shingen uneasy. Yoshiharu said it was because Nobuna would hire people without looking at their family background.
Shingen wanted Yoshiharu to call her by her real name, Katsuchiyo. She asked Yoshiharu about Shingen that he knew from the history. Yoshiharu answered that there were theories about Shingen dying form TB, or being assassinated. Looking that Katsuchiyo was well and healthy, Yoshiharu warned her about the other theory. Yoshiharu said that Nobuna is not someone that would send assassins to kill the enemy general, but who knows what her retainers would do when the Oda was like a cornered rat. Especially Matsunaga.
Yoshiharu asked Shingen not to put his name in the Takeda's history. Kazumasu said finally Yoshiharu have betrayed Nobuna-chan for Shingen because the size of their boobs

. Yoshiharu refute it by saying his loyalty is with Nobuna, but he's also the ally of all pretty girls. If Shingen was a man Yoshiharu would've not warn anything

Kazumasu at one point asked why was Yoshiharu's attitude toward her was different from toward Katsuchiyo, and why he was not captivated by Kazumasu's charm. Yoshiharu said when he looked at her face it reminds him about someone Yangoto naki (solemn, important: a phrase from Tale of Genji and Mayfly Diary if I'm not mistaken)....and he's not interested in flat chested girl. In his first encounter with Kazumasu, Yoshiharu wondered why no one told her that she looked like Himiko, or Kazumasu herself didn't knew that she was a life-like Himiko. Yoshiharu realized he was the only one from the Oda who knew Himiko's face as she was always behind the bamboo blind. Yoshiharu's meeting with Himiko in anime was anime-original.

When Yoshiharu came into Matsudaira's camp and revealed that he told Katsuchiyo to be careful of assassin, Matsudaira's men were angry and kicked him.

In Yoshiharu's letter to Katsuchiyo requesting temporary ceasefire for Christmas, Yoshiharu told her that he would like to show the world to her too.

No wonder there is a hate thread in 2ch called "Shitty Anime in Sagara's Dream World where only man Dies"

Ehh, being a fan of Sasamoto Yuuichi, I don't mind girls not dying left and right just for drama

Speaking about Kazumasu, Juubei acted on her own by moving Kazumasu from Ise front line to prepare for an assault on Honbyouji from the sea while Nobuna forces would attack from the land. Nobuna didn't get angry, but instead praised her, as the two jealous girls discussed the plan to siege Honbyouji.
Matsunaga who was a war orphan asked Nobuna to think calmly about attacking Honbyouji, as the temple was a shelter to the girl orphans.

「織田信奈の野望外伝　邪気眼竜政宗」。Oda Nobuna no Yabou Gaiden Jakigan Ryuu Masamune (Oda Nobuna's Ambition Side Story, Evil Eye Dragon Masamune) on sale November [source]

Edit: Also, because the siege on Honganji (Honbyouji) took 10 years but was settled with a soccer football match in the novel, I think Honnouji event should not be long

churchblue · 2012-08-31, 08:07

What is Yoshiharu's relation with Shingen as of now (Vol 9)?

justpassingby · 2012-08-31, 21:43

^I'll be glad to answer that when the other volumes have been summarized by people that wanted to do them :P

Also, some correction. I reread vol 3 and there was a mention about Mt Hiei (Hieizan) by Hanbei. The author used Eizan most of the time.

ReaperxKingx · 2012-08-31, 21:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by justpassingby

^Without rope
It's the same reason for why any girl would fall for Yoshiharu: He saved her life.

Spoiler for Yoshiharu, Katsuchiyo, Kazumasu:

When Yoshiharu and Kazumasu met Shingen at the secret hotspring, he asked for her sign (autograph).
Yoshiharu hold Shingen's shoulder and bury his face on her chests because he was sad regarding Nobuna's treatment toward him. It was the first time that she met such a vulgar man that didn't fear Takeda Shingen.
After Yoshiharu revealed that he's from the future, Shingen asked why did he went to serve Oda instead of her. Yoshiharu took his time before answering, and it made Shingen uneasy. Yoshiharu said it was because Nobuna would hire people without looking at their family background.
Shingen wanted Yoshiharu to call her by her real name, Katsuchiyo. She asked Yoshiharu about Shingen that he knew from the history. Yoshiharu answered that there were theories about Shingen dying form TB, or being assassinated. Looking that Katsuchiyo was well and healthy, Yoshiharu warned her about the other theory. Yoshiharu said that Nobuna is not someone that would send assassins to kill the enemy general, but who knows what her retainers would do when the Oda was like a cornered rat. Especially Matsunaga.
Yoshiharu asked Shingen not to put his name in the Takeda's history. Kazumasu said finally Yoshiharu have betrayed Nobuna-chan for Shingen because the size of their boobs

. Yoshiharu refute it by saying his loyalty is with Nobuna, but he's also the ally of all pretty girls. If Shingen was a man Yoshiharu would've not warn anything

Kazumasu at one point asked why was Yoshiharu's attitude toward her was different from toward Katsuchiyo, and why he was not captivated by Kazumasu's charm. Yoshiharu said when he looked at her face it reminds him about someone Yangoto naki (solemn, important: a phrase from Tale of Genji and Mayfly Diary if I'm not mistaken)....and he's not interested in flat chested girl. In his first encounter with Kazumasu, Yoshiharu wondered why no one told her that she looked like Himiko, or Kazumasu herself didn't knew that she was a life-like Himiko. Yoshiharu realized he was the only one from the Oda who knew Himiko's face as she was always behind the bamboo blind. Yoshiharu's meeting with Himiko in anime was anime-original.

When Yoshiharu came into Matsudaira's camp and revealed that he told Katsuchiyo to be careful of assassin, Matsudaira's men were angry and kicked him.

In Yoshiharu's letter to Katsuchiyo requesting temporary ceasefire for Christmas, Yoshiharu told her that he would like to show the world to her too.

No wonder there is a hate thread in 2ch called "Shitty Anime in Sagara's Dream World where only man Dies"

Ehh, being a fan of Sasamoto Yuuichi, I don't mind girls not dying left and right just for drama

Speaking about Kazumasu, Juubei acted on her own by moving Kazumasu from Ise front line to prepare for an assault on Honbyouji from the sea while Nobuna forces would attack from the land. Nobuna didn't get angry, but instead praised her, as the two jealous girls discussed the plan to siege Honbyouji.
Matsunaga who was a war orphan asked Nobuna to think calmly about attacking Honbyouji, as the temple was a shelter to the girl orphans.

「織田信奈の野望外伝　邪気眼竜政宗」。Oda Nobuna no Yabou Gaiden Jakigan Ryuu Masamune (Oda Nobuna's Ambition Side Story, Evil Eye Dragon Masamune) on sale November [source]

Edit: Also, because the siege on Honganji (Honbyouji) took 10 years but was settled with a soccer football match in the novel, I think Honnouji event should not be long

So he dived headfirst in what most anime male characters would say "bouncing heaven". I like it, he is crazy, but in the process he done a good thing.

XxSleepyxX · 2012-09-01, 13:31

Its more under the circumstances of. DAMN YOUR HAWT. I don't care what happens to history anymore i'm going to help you live. Saru a man who truly loves oppai.

kazzuya13 · 2012-09-02, 08:13

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Originally Posted by lilNewBlood

Yoshiharu seems like natural-born player like Goudou...I mean

Spoiler for Vol 7:

I hope the summary would come soon. I wish to know how that happen.

justpassingby · 2012-09-02, 11:29

Ehhh so that dialogue between Yoshiharu and Akechi about dream didn't happen in the anime.
Well the fight was cut short anyway. Hanbei was supposed to be coughing blood.

And Manase should be in next week episode. When he treated the ailing Hanbei, he told her to eat more meat, as the reason for why the life span of people that time was short was because the eating of meat was prohibited by the Imperial Court who banned the killing of animals when Buddhism entered the country.
Because Yoshiharu prefers big chested girls, Hanbei wanted to eat meat so she could grow more, but Manase who prefers little girls to be flat-chest suddenly changed his mind and said "No Meat" to Hanbei. Yoshiharu called the doctor as lolicon

Master Assassin · 2012-09-02, 14:15

^

Spoiler for Anime and LN:

ReaperxKingx · 2012-09-02, 14:35

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Originally Posted by Master Assassin

^

Spoiler for Anime and LN:

Can't wait to watch and read it when it comes. Will be pretty amusing, so far not many have an suspicion of what Nagamasa is in the anime thread so it will be a next reaction.

XxSleepyxX · 2012-09-02, 15:45

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Originally Posted by justpassingby

Ehhh so that dialogue between Yoshiharu and Akechi about dream didn't happen in the anime.
Well the fight was cut short anyway. Hanbei was supposed to be coughing blood.

And Manase should be in next week episode. When he treated the ailing Hanbei, he told her to eat more meat, as the reason for why the life span of people that time was short because the eating of meat was highly against by the monks.
Because Yoshiharu prefers big chested girls, Hanbei wanted to eat meat so she could grow more, but Manase who prefers little girls to be flat-chest suddenly changed his mind and said "No Meat" to Hanbei. Yoshiharu called the doctor as lolicon

Budget constraints/Time Limit? I want to kill the idiot who green lit nobuna and decided to force 5 volumes into a 12 ep season. Fuck this scriptwriter... Even DxD didn't do that.. and they even had to use side stories... Although the animation is top notch their seriously killing the story here. This was a franchise they could of milked.. but its potentially killing the story.

Sumeragi · 2012-09-02, 15:49

Frankly, the story forced things to go into Volume 4~5. Cutting it off at Volume 3 would leave the Juubei issue hanging.

ReaperxKingx · 2012-09-02, 16:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by justpassingby

Ehhh so that dialogue between Yoshiharu and Akechi about dream didn't happen in the anime.
Well the fight was cut short anyway. Hanbei was supposed to be coughing blood.

And Manase should be in next week episode. When he treated the ailing Hanbei, he told her to eat more meat, as the reason for why the life span of people that time was short because the eating of meat was highly against by the monks.
Because Yoshiharu prefers big chested girls, Hanbei wanted to eat meat so she could grow more, but Manase who prefers little girls to be flat-chest suddenly changed his mind and said "No Meat" to Hanbei. Yoshiharu called the doctor as lolicon

True, the restraint called budget is really annoying especially for Light Novel Adaption Anime. Despite this, the anime has done a reasonable adaption of Oda Nobuna no Yabou. It is very watchable for Light Novel fans, besides there really isn't a perfect adaption of Light Novels anywhere.

XxSleepyxX · 2012-09-02, 17:09

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Originally Posted by ReaperxKingx

True, the restraint called budget is really annoying especially for Light Novel Adaption Anime. Despite this, the anime has done a reasonable adaption of Oda Nobuna no Yabou. It is very watchable for Light Novel fans, besides there really isn't a perfect adaption of Light Novels anywhere.

Asura's Cryin. Heard of it? Seen it? I perfer that over the light novel...

You can probably find a decent light novel in anime form somewhere in the past. Nowadays its not really possible because of budget constraints and the increase in costs for anime production. It ends up either sacrificing quality for story or vice versa. Fans are very picky. They usually pick up on the slightest quality drop.

Zakoo · 2012-09-02, 18:34

Hmm we are more or less on wich novel based on today's episode?

I read it the past in some summary that Yoshiharu saved Nobuna with his mobile but the context was totally different from today's episode, did they change the story?

Wasn't he supposed to "sacrifice" himself to let the army retreat or is it for later?

ReaperxKingx · 2012-09-02, 19:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zakoo

Hmm we are more or less on wich novel based on today's episode?

I read it the past in some summary that Yoshiharu saved Nobuna with his mobile but the context was totally different from today's episode, did they change the story?

Wasn't he supposed to "sacrifice" himself to let the army retreat or is it for later?

That is later, its vol 4 which I suspect where the anime will finish. Hopefully with a cliff hanger for maybe a second season.

fazri · 2012-09-02, 20:06

i bit confused is bontenmaru is same person as date masamune or different person?

ReaperxKingx · 2012-09-02, 20:14

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Originally Posted by fazri

i bit confused is bontenmaru is same person as date masamune or different person?

That her personal name, she named herself that but she is Date Masamune.

chad001 · 2012-09-02, 20:48

Speaking of Bontenmaru, did they skip the scene where he cheers up her and Frois?

ReaperxKingx · 2012-09-02, 20:51

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Originally Posted by chad001

Speaking of Bontenmaru, did they skip the scene where he cheers up her and Frois?

Sadly I think so, quite a shame.

chad001 · 2012-09-02, 20:52

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Originally Posted by ReaperxKingx

Sadly I think so, quite a shame.

My face when: T.T

and: ┻━┻ ︵ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ︵ ┻━┻

2012-08-31, 04:31	Link #1841
justpassingby Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Cyberjaya, Malaysia Age: 38	^Without rope It's the same reason for why any girl would fall for Yoshiharu: He saved her life. Spoiler for Yoshiharu, Katsuchiyo, Kazumasu: When Yoshiharu and Kazumasu met Shingen at the secret hotspring, he asked for her sign (autograph). Yoshiharu hold Shingen's shoulder and bury his face on her chests because he was sad regarding Nobuna's treatment toward him. It was the first time that she met such a vulgar man that didn't fear Takeda Shingen. After Yoshiharu revealed that he's from the future, Shingen asked why did he went to serve Oda instead of her. Yoshiharu took his time before answering, and it made Shingen uneasy. Yoshiharu said it was because Nobuna would hire people without looking at their family background. Shingen wanted Yoshiharu to call her by her real name, Katsuchiyo. She asked Yoshiharu about Shingen that he knew from the history. Yoshiharu answered that there were theories about Shingen dying form TB, or being assassinated. Looking that Katsuchiyo was well and healthy, Yoshiharu warned her about the other theory. Yoshiharu said that Nobuna is not someone that would send assassins to kill the enemy general, but who knows what her retainers would do when the Oda was like a cornered rat. Especially Matsunaga. Yoshiharu asked Shingen not to put his name in the Takeda's history. Kazumasu said finally Yoshiharu have betrayed Nobuna-chan for Shingen because the size of their boobs . Yoshiharu refute it by saying his loyalty is with Nobuna, but he's also the ally of all pretty girls. If Shingen was a man Yoshiharu would've not warn anything Kazumasu at one point asked why was Yoshiharu's attitude toward her was different from toward Katsuchiyo, and why he was not captivated by Kazumasu's charm. Yoshiharu said when he looked at her face it reminds him about someone Yangoto naki (solemn, important: a phrase from Tale of Genji and Mayfly Diary if I'm not mistaken)....and he's not interested in flat chested girl. In his first encounter with Kazumasu, Yoshiharu wondered why no one told her that she looked like Himiko, or Kazumasu herself didn't knew that she was a life-like Himiko. Yoshiharu realized he was the only one from the Oda who knew Himiko's face as she was always behind the bamboo blind. Yoshiharu's meeting with Himiko in anime was anime-original. When Yoshiharu came into Matsudaira's camp and revealed that he told Katsuchiyo to be careful of assassin, Matsudaira's men were angry and kicked him. In Yoshiharu's letter to Katsuchiyo requesting temporary ceasefire for Christmas, Yoshiharu told her that he would like to show the world to her too. No wonder there is a hate thread in 2ch called "Shitty Anime in Sagara's Dream World where only man Dies" Ehh, being a fan of Sasamoto Yuuichi, I don't mind girls not dying left and right just for drama Speaking about Kazumasu, Juubei acted on her own by moving Kazumasu from Ise front line to prepare for an assault on Honbyouji from the sea while Nobuna forces would attack from the land. Nobuna didn't get angry, but instead praised her, as the two jealous girls discussed the plan to siege Honbyouji. Matsunaga who was a war orphan asked Nobuna to think calmly about attacking Honbyouji, as the temple was a shelter to the girl orphans. 「織田信奈の野望外伝　邪気眼竜政宗」。Oda Nobuna no Yabou Gaiden Jakigan Ryuu Masamune (Oda Nobuna's Ambition Side Story, Evil Eye Dragon Masamune) on sale November [source] Edit: Also, because the siege on Honganji (Honbyouji) took 10 years but was settled with a soccer football match in the novel, I think Honnouji event should not be long __________________ 一生　忘れられないよ　ずっとずっと　大事な贈り物一生　忘れられないよ　きっときっと　こいつは宝物 Last edited by justpassingby; 2012-08-31 at 08:49. Reason: :P

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justpassingby Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Cyberjaya, Malaysia Age: 38	^I'll be glad to answer that when the other volumes have been summarized by people that wanted to do them :P Also, some correction. I reread vol 3 and there was a mention about Mt Hiei (Hieizan) by Hanbei. The author used Eizan most of the time. __________________ 一生　忘れられないよ　ずっとずっと　大事な贈り物一生　忘れられないよ　きっときっと　こいつは宝物

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XxSleepyxX Learner Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: HONEY~	Its more under the circumstances of. DAMN YOUR HAWT. I don't care what happens to history anymore i'm going to help you live. Saru a man who truly loves oppai. __________________

2012-09-02, 11:29	Link #1847
justpassingby Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Cyberjaya, Malaysia Age: 38	Ehhh so that dialogue between Yoshiharu and Akechi about dream didn't happen in the anime. Well the fight was cut short anyway. Hanbei was supposed to be coughing blood. And Manase should be in next week episode. When he treated the ailing Hanbei, he told her to eat more meat, as the reason for why the life span of people that time was short was because the eating of meat was prohibited by the Imperial Court who banned the killing of animals when Buddhism entered the country. Because Yoshiharu prefers big chested girls, Hanbei wanted to eat meat so she could grow more, but Manase who prefers little girls to be flat-chest suddenly changed his mind and said "No Meat" to Hanbei. Yoshiharu called the doctor as lolicon __________________ 一生　忘れられないよ　ずっとずっと　大事な贈り物一生　忘れられないよ　きっときっと　こいつは宝物 Last edited by justpassingby; 2012-09-03 at 07:43. Reason: Imperial Court, well in a sense it's still by the monks

2012-09-02, 14:15	Link #1848
Master Assassin Portable Dude Mk. II Artist Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: All ghillied up spying on someone ~2,000 yards away using telescope sights. Age: 35	^ Spoiler for Anime and LN: And we're getting closer to Nagasama and "Oichi"... by one more week. __________________ I like to run portable on my dude, so I ran while running runs in my portably portable, dude-like dude. --- This line over here is a placeholder. ----

2012-08-31, 08:07	Link #1842
churchblue Banned Join Date: Dec 2008	What is Yoshiharu's relation with Shingen as of now (Vol 9)?

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Sumeragi Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Dai Korai Teikoku	Frankly, the story forced things to go into Volume 4~5. Cutting it off at Volume 3 would leave the Juubei issue hanging.

2012-09-02, 18:34	Link #1854
Zakoo Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Gensokyo	Hmm we are more or less on wich novel based on today's episode? I read it the past in some summary that Yoshiharu saved Nobuna with his mobile but the context was totally different from today's episode, did they change the story? Wasn't he supposed to "sacrifice" himself to let the army retreat or is it for later?

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fazri blacksun king Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: jakarta,indonesia	i bit confused is bontenmaru is same person as date masamune or different person? __________________

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chad001 Happy-End Totalitarian Join Date: Jan 2009	Speaking of Bontenmaru, did they skip the scene where he cheers up her and Frois?