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Kairin · 2012-07-06, 01:02

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mechalord · 2012-07-29, 10:23

What's with all the hinting that Silver Crow was Red Rider?

Red Rider in episode 11's flashback spoke in a similar manner to Haru and the avatar looks familiar.

Orange Duke · 2012-07-30, 04:14

It can't be possible. Brain Burst, once uninstalled can never be reinstalled again, even if you change your Neurolinker because the program recognizes your brainwaves.

Perhaps you're looking too hard for things that aren't really there.

mechalord · 2012-07-30, 11:38

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Originally Posted by Orange Duke

It can't be possible. Brain Burst, once uninstalled can never be reinstalled again, even if you change your Neurolinker because the program recognizes your brainwaves.

Perhaps you're looking too hard for things that aren't really there.

It's science fiction.

Think of it as Ghost in the Shell but less intense, less violent, less adult oriented and with prettier scenery, younger cast, less techy.

- Kids are actually cyborgs, transhuman designer babies that communicate like telepaths and can jack up their brains performance due to their cybernetics.
- The minds of the kids age, while their bodies remain young. Going all Inception... time goes faster when in the Matrix... living in the brain-cyberworld universe.
- They'll actually come close to murdering each other for the benefits of unlocking their brain's true potential... super reaction time, super speed, enhanced intelligence, etc.
- Mind hacks, memory wipes, digital illusions...part of the story. Haru has gotten mind hacked a few times and made to see things that aren't there.

The view is told that once uninstalled the Brain Burst program can't be installed but that's nothing important. It doesn't mean it can't happen if the writers says it can't. We are told it can't happen, not told why. It's probably a plot element designed to maintain a sense of doubt in the reader/viewer that what is being hinted it at can't happen even though the writer totally intends for it to happen.

Orange Duke · 2012-07-31, 05:22

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Originally Posted by mechalord

It's science fiction.

Think of it as Ghost in the Shell but less intense, less violent, less adult oriented and with prettier scenery, younger cast, less techy.

- Kids are actually cyborgs, transhuman designer babies that communicate like telepaths and can jack up their brains performance due to their cybernetics.
- The minds of the kids age, while their bodies remain young. Going all Inception... time goes faster when in the Matrix... living in the brain-cyberworld universe.
- They'll actually come close to murdering each other for the benefits of unlocking their brain's true potential... super reaction time, super speed, enhanced intelligence, etc.
- Mind hacks, memory wipes, digital illusions...part of the story. Haru has gotten mind hacked a few times and made to see things that aren't there.

The view is told that once uninstalled the Brain Burst program can't be installed but that's nothing important. It doesn't mean it can't happen if the writers says it can't. We are told it can't happen, not told why. It's probably a plot element designed to maintain a sense of doubt in the reader/viewer that what is being hinted it at can't happen even though the writer totally intends for it to happen.

That would never happen. Introducing the possibility of regaining Brain Burst would quite simply get rid of any consequence of losing all your Burst Points. This is suicide for the series since there is no longer any point in trying to not lose all your burst points.

As to why Brain Burst can't be installed once uninstalled,

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Originally Posted by Orange Duke

Brain Burst, once uninstalled can never be reinstalled again, even if you change your Neurolinker because the program recognizes your brainwaves.

An alternate interpretation to your question would be why the author introduced that fact. It is so that there is justification behind all the fighting. Would you fight as hard for something you know you can regain after you lose it?

mechalord · 2012-08-18, 17:30

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Originally Posted by Orange Duke

That would never happen. Introducing the possibility of regaining Brain Burst would quite simply get rid of any consequence of losing all your Burst Points. This is suicide for the series since there is no longer any point in trying to not lose all your burst points.

As to why Brain Burst can't be installed once uninstalled,

An alternate interpretation to your question would be why the author introduced that fact. It is so that there is justification behind all the fighting. Would you fight as hard for something you know you can regain after you lose it?

Episode 19...with the teasing again.

Spoiler for Episode 19:

Oh look... it is possible.

Orange Duke · 2012-08-18, 22:59

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Originally Posted by mechalord

Spoiler for Episode 19:

There. You rebutted your own point.

MeisterBabylon · 2012-08-19, 00:00

Your memory is there, just that you cannot gain access to it.

In effect, your memories become a digital version of you that persists in the Accelerated World, long after you are gone. The soul of your digital avatar. The Ghost in the Shell.

You do not own that ghost because you and it no longer share the same consciousness, so no, it does not count as regaining your Burst. Its closer to your avatar coming back to find you, which would be the scientific explanation for the shaman leading the ghost back to Megumi via the Incarnate system.

mechalord · 2012-09-18, 10:11

Last episode coming up. Haru is the former Red King.

Any news of a second season/series?

Orange Duke · 2012-09-18, 10:24

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Originally Posted by mechalord

Haru is the former Red King.

Suuuure he is.

Lycodrake · 2012-09-18, 11:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by mechalord

Last episode coming up. Haru is the former Red King.

Nah, he's the former Orange King that we never hear about because no one wants to acknowledge "Orange Boar".
Because with robots around, who wants to remember that they were terrified of a Ganon-Emboar expy? =P

Spoiler:

mechalord · 2012-09-22, 08:12

Even more hinting in the final episode. "Even if things change, they start over." Something like that.

lol lol lol

Orange Duke · 2012-09-22, 08:22

That's a pretty darn ambiguous "hint", if it is one at all.

n120cky · 2012-09-23, 07:55

Just want to speculate on Kuroyukihime name based on current clues:

1. Her name similar with her nickname Kuroyuki Hime
2. Sky raker call Her Sa-chan (with assumption not nickname and she call Kuroyuki Hime by first name)

Her name would be

Sa???? ??????

Inserting Her nickname Kuroyuki Hime

Sakuro Yuki Hime

well I think Sakuro is not to common name in Japan ecxept for : Zakuro or Sakura. Yuki for family name is bit uncommon, so I would change it to Yuuki.

so Her name would be Sakura Yuuki.

Lame isn't it

. But that's what i got in my mind . . . .

ronelm2000 · 2012-09-23, 11:57

I was thinking either Sayuki or Sachi...

but we need to think kanji....

Snow (雪) can be read as setsu (セツ) or yuki (ゆき). However, neither starts in sa...

sachi (幸) means Happiness. But is it close to Snow White?

White (白) can be read as haku (ハク) or shiro (ハク). However, there is one irregular meaning that uses white also, which is Sayu [白湯（さゆ）] which means plain hot water.

It could be Sayu....

n120cky · 2012-09-23, 21:17

that's good analysis, but I think we must add Kuro(mean black) to the name, naybe there is another Kanji interpretation for Kuro.

***relentlessflame*** · 2012-09-26, 13:57

I am thinking her first name is probably Sayuki (紗雪), and the "Kuro" probably comes from her last name (if they want to be really blatant it could be "Kurohime" I guess (黒姫), but that's probably not that common a name).

I don't think her name will be Sachi, because I don't think "Sachi" is a regular Japanese name to give a child.

Awrya · 2012-09-27, 06:52

The whole Sachi idea probably comes from SAO, where Sachi is the name of the game avatar, not the real name.
As relentlessflame said, Sachi isn't a name you'd usually give to a child, though it may be a nickname?

ronelm2000 · 2012-10-03, 05:20

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Originally Posted by Awrya

The whole Sachi idea probably comes from SAO, where Sachi is the name of the game avatar, not the real name.
As relentlessflame said, Sachi isn't a name you'd usually give to a child, though it may be a nickname?

Someone thought that Kirito wants to name her child Sachi.

Anyway, unfortunately, kuro (or black only brings me this):

黒
[Other Meanings]
guilty
dark
dirty
evil
wicked

[Reading]
koku (コク)
kuro (くろ)
kuroi (くろ・い)

黎

[Reading]
rei (レイ)
ri (リ)
kuroi (くろ・い)

黛

[Reading]
tai (タイ)
mayuzumi (まゆずみ)

So black is out of the question, ... and why would someone pick a kanji that means "Evil" as a meaning?

Sunder the Gold · 2012-12-23, 22:35

It's my theory that the color Blue denotes duel avatars with the highest potential physical performance, in terms of speed, strength and toughness.

Blue defends itself against Red by rushing into range as fast as possible (chasing after a fleeing Red), while dodging or parrying shots and soaking up the ones that hit, and then having enough HP left to survive the fight once they can actually begin hitting the other guy.

Red defends itself against Blue by starting at a distance, fleeing to maintain that distance ("kiting"), and shooting the Blue dead before he closes range. Reds may be nearly as fast on foot as Blues, but they have less physical potential to spend, and so suffer in terms of strength and toughness. Other Reds focus on strength instead of agility, in the interest of holding bigger guns. Reds have the best distance vision and accuracy with ranged attacks.

Yellow defends himself by preventing Red or Blue from landing a hit, or avoiding his own. He's just as physically inferior to Blue as Red, but doesn't have distance vision or sharp shooting. He doesn't favor any range.

Purple defends himself by engaging short-range foes at long-range and long-range foes at short range, and mixing things up when necessary to catch an opponent off-guard. Being half Blue, they're not as physically powerful as pure Blue, but they're potentially stronger, faster and tougher than other colors save Green.

Green is also half-Blue, and therefore stronger, faster, or tougher than avatars of other colors. The strength they sacrifice compared to Blues is instead invested in tricks. He doesn't have as many kinds of tricks as a Yellow would, and they tend to only work in short-range conditions, but they can help him win close-combat in ways that Blues can't.

Orange is like Yellow, but sacrifices half of the tricks in return for better proficiency with ranged attacks; longer range, bigger guns, better accuracy. Not as good as Reds, but they have sneaky tricks that Reds don't have.

Black is outside of the Chromatic Color Wheel, and therefore has NONE of these strengths. Not strong, fast, tough, tricky, or talented with long-range attacks.

After Scarlet Rain, Yellow Radio should be the WORST King at close-range combat, and yet he was able to fight Black Lotus as an equal in hand-to-hand. Which means that Black Lotus is far away from the fastest or strongest of the Kings. Likely, the Blue King would trounce them both if they crossed blades with him.

If Black Lotus has an advantage, it seems to be the power to cut anything regardless of her strength versus the target's toughness. The Blue Knight may technically be a better, more powerful swordsman, but it's possible that he simply cannot afford to let Black Lotus hit him.

Black Vise's strangeness is more apparent. If you can avoid his traps and drag him out of the shadows, I wonder how helpless he becomes?

Aqua Current likewise has a strange body. She seemed invincible in the one demonstrated fight, but she had picked opponents whose attacks had no affect on her body. It's very likely that there are attacks her body cannot withstand. We also never saw her attack anyone; it's possible that her strength/damaging potential is horrible.

2012-08-19, 00:00	Link #8
MeisterBabylon ~ Your Smile ~ Author Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: 346Pro Age: 38	Your memory is there, just that you cannot gain access to it. In effect, your memories become a digital version of you that persists in the Accelerated World, long after you are gone. The soul of your digital avatar. The Ghost in the Shell. You do not own that ghost because you and it no longer share the same consciousness, so no, it does not count as regaining your Burst. Its closer to your avatar coming back to find you, which would be the scientific explanation for the shaman leading the ghost back to Megumi via the Incarnate system. __________________ 白露型駆逐艦の４番艦、夕立です。第三次ソロモン海戦では、けっこう頑張ったっぽい★？

2012-09-26, 13:57	Link #17
*relentlessflame* 　 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2003 Age: 41	I am thinking her first name is probably Sayuki (紗雪), and the "Kuro" probably comes from her last name (if they want to be really blatant it could be "Kurohime" I guess (黒姫), but that's probably not that common a name). I don't think her name will be Sachi, because I don't think "Sachi" is a regular Japanese name to give a child. __________________ [...]

2012-09-27, 06:52	Link #18
Awrya U mad? Join Date: Apr 2012	The whole Sachi idea probably comes from SAO, where Sachi is the name of the game avatar, not the real name. As relentlessflame said, Sachi isn't a name you'd usually give to a child, though it may be a nickname? __________________

2012-07-29, 10:23	Link #2
mechalord Deploying Funnel Cakes Join Date: Jan 2008	What's with all the hinting that Silver Crow was Red Rider? Red Rider in episode 11's flashback spoke in a similar manner to Haru and the avatar looks familiar.

2012-07-30, 04:14	Link #3
Orange Duke オレンジ色の王 Author Join Date: Jul 2012 Age: 20	It can't be possible. Brain Burst, once uninstalled can never be reinstalled again, even if you change your Neurolinker because the program recognizes your brainwaves. Perhaps you're looking too hard for things that aren't really there.

2012-09-18, 10:11	Link #9
mechalord Deploying Funnel Cakes Join Date: Jan 2008	Last episode coming up. Haru is the former Red King. Any news of a second season/series?

2012-09-22, 08:12	Link #12
mechalord Deploying Funnel Cakes Join Date: Jan 2008	Even more hinting in the final episode. "Even if things change, they start over." Something like that. lol lol lol

2012-09-22, 08:22	Link #13
Orange Duke オレンジ色の王 Author Join Date: Jul 2012 Age: 20	That's a pretty darn ambiguous "hint", if it is one at all.

2012-09-23, 07:55	Link #14
n120cky Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010	Just want to speculate on Kuroyukihime name based on current clues: 1. Her name similar with her nickname Kuroyuki Hime 2. Sky raker call Her Sa-chan (with assumption not nickname and she call Kuroyuki Hime by first name) Her name would be Sa???? ?????? Inserting Her nickname Kuroyuki Hime Sakuro Yuki Hime well I think Sakuro is not to common name in Japan ecxept for : Zakuro or Sakura. Yuki for family name is bit uncommon, so I would change it to Yuuki. so Her name would be Sakura Yuuki. Lame isn't it . But that's what i got in my mind . . . .

2012-09-23, 21:17	Link #16
n120cky Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010	that's good analysis, but I think we must add Kuro(mean black) to the name, naybe there is another Kanji interpretation for Kuro.

2012-12-23, 22:35	Link #20
Sunder the Gold Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	It's my theory that the color Blue denotes duel avatars with the highest potential physical performance, in terms of speed, strength and toughness. Blue defends itself against Red by rushing into range as fast as possible (chasing after a fleeing Red), while dodging or parrying shots and soaking up the ones that hit, and then having enough HP left to survive the fight once they can actually begin hitting the other guy. Red defends itself against Blue by starting at a distance, fleeing to maintain that distance ("kiting"), and shooting the Blue dead before he closes range. Reds may be nearly as fast on foot as Blues, but they have less physical potential to spend, and so suffer in terms of strength and toughness. Other Reds focus on strength instead of agility, in the interest of holding bigger guns. Reds have the best distance vision and accuracy with ranged attacks. Yellow defends himself by preventing Red or Blue from landing a hit, or avoiding his own. He's just as physically inferior to Blue as Red, but doesn't have distance vision or sharp shooting. He doesn't favor any range. Purple defends himself by engaging short-range foes at long-range and long-range foes at short range, and mixing things up when necessary to catch an opponent off-guard. Being half Blue, they're not as physically powerful as pure Blue, but they're potentially stronger, faster and tougher than other colors save Green. Green is also half-Blue, and therefore stronger, faster, or tougher than avatars of other colors. The strength they sacrifice compared to Blues is instead invested in tricks. He doesn't have as many kinds of tricks as a Yellow would, and they tend to only work in short-range conditions, but they can help him win close-combat in ways that Blues can't. Orange is like Yellow, but sacrifices half of the tricks in return for better proficiency with ranged attacks; longer range, bigger guns, better accuracy. Not as good as Reds, but they have sneaky tricks that Reds don't have. Black is outside of the Chromatic Color Wheel, and therefore has NONE of these strengths. Not strong, fast, tough, tricky, or talented with long-range attacks. After Scarlet Rain, Yellow Radio should be the WORST King at close-range combat, and yet he was able to fight Black Lotus as an equal in hand-to-hand. Which means that Black Lotus is far away from the fastest or strongest of the Kings. Likely, the Blue King would trounce them both if they crossed blades with him. If Black Lotus has an advantage, it seems to be the power to cut anything regardless of her strength versus the target's toughness. The Blue Knight may technically be a better, more powerful swordsman, but it's possible that he simply cannot afford to let Black Lotus hit him. Black Vise's strangeness is more apparent. If you can avoid his traps and drag him out of the shadows, I wonder how helpless he becomes? Aqua Current likewise has a strange body. She seemed invincible in the one demonstrated fight, but she had picked opponents whose attacks had no affect on her body. It's very likely that there are attacks her body cannot withstand. We also never saw her attack anyone; it's possible that her strength/damaging potential is horrible.