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Madara | 104 | 32.91% | |
Madara’s Son | 14 | 4.43% | |
Madara’s Clone | 30 | 9.49% | |
Madara’s Ghost/Soul/Poltergeist given shape... | 33 | 10.44% | |
Obito | 59 | 18.67% | |
Obito’s Body, but not really Obito... | 55 | 17.41% | |
Someone else’s body (not Obito’s)... | 21 | 6.65% | |
Zetsu’s Love Child... | 23 | 7.28% | |
Tobirama/Sarutobi/or anyone with a 'tobi' in their name... | 16 | 5.06% | |
Bruce Wayne or other… | 69 | 21.84% | |
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2010-04-28, 04:07 | Link #121 |
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You know.... this might be off topic but somehow it has a connection or clues on who tobi really is....
I think its kinda non sense of madara joining forces with Itachi to kill all the clan..... Tobi... If he was madara he should have just joined forces with the uchiha clan again... not kill them... It was a waste..... If I were Madara.... I would definitely deny Itachi in killing all the Uchiha because its kinda stupid.... Why kill them all when you can make them your army again??? another possibility of TObi not madara.....
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2010-04-28, 08:35 | Link #122 |
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^Um, no. Madara expressed extreme displeasure and hatred for the Uchiha Clan. So, wanting to massacre them is well within his M.O. Additionally, considering the room full of Sharingan eyes he has collected, it seems only obvious that he killed all the Uchiha specifically for their eyes. He did not want an army of Uchiha; he seems to have only wanted their eyes.
Seriously though, Madara hated his clan for betraying him, but he still wants to rule Konoha. So, he killed his tribe, and is going to use their eyes to cast an eternal genjutsu over the world, making himself God, and everyone and everything his servant. Or, at least that is how I read the whole Madara situation… Last edited by james0246; 2010-04-28 at 09:42. |
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2010-04-28, 15:46 | Link #124 | |
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2010-04-28, 16:02 | Link #125 |
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^Madara's original trepidation about joining the Senjuu wasn't the fact that an alliance had been formed between 2 great clans; rather it was the fact that he believed that one clan would subsume the other (something the Uchiha were well known for). In the alliance, he was not worried about the actual joining of the 2 clans, he was worried about losing his power and his clan’s power. So, long story short, from the very beginning Madara wanted to control Konoha, and, he believed that it was do to his clan's betrayal that he lost control. So, he killed his clan do to their betrayal, but still desires some form of control over Konoha (which seems to have morphed into a form of control over the entire world).
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2010-04-30, 03:18 | Link #127 |
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I think that is the most stupidest thing madara have ever done..... he knows his clan is going to follow his footsteps by betraying konoha, yet he killed them off???
he should have joined forces to his clan not kill them..... also.., I think Itachi knows Tobi's real plan all along and I think he likes Tobi's plan... that maybe the reason why he joined akatsuki.... I know this is kinda off topic but it somehow connects to my tobi not madara theory.......
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2010-05-05, 07:06 | Link #128 |
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Well obviously tobi is not madara.... To much evidence against it.. And even without all the prove you still have to doubt the statement simply because all teh characters do aswell.. they all talk in a fashion of : ''the one who calls himself madara'' not simply ''madara''...
But who would he be then.. Since kabuto summoned the real madara and we know he doesn't summon the real body but he uses a sacrifcial body + the real persons spirit.. That would mean that madara's spirit isn't in tobi either.. So tobi doesn't look like madara and he hasn't got his mind or spirit.. Count that up and you know that tobi is not madara and is probably Obito.. Completely .. Not some sort of madara spirit.. Just obito |
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I don't say he is Obito, but if he was Obito, it would explain why Pain definitely wanted to kill Kakashi and shot the nail at his Sharingan eye, at least if he knew that Madara was Obito, because it would mean trouble if he got his eye back, wouldn't it? Who knows how powerful he'd be if he could do both - teleport himself away to other dimensions and use his technique Kamui to full extent (with his Uchiha body) and teleport people or bodyparts away on long distance. He'd truly be invincible and very very dangerous.
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2010-05-05, 08:53 | Link #134 | |
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I doubt it's Obito, but the argument with the crushed eye simply does not matter.
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2010-05-05, 09:44 | Link #135 | |
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but I really think that Tobi is someone we know from the past..... but not obito....
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2010-05-05, 14:25 | Link #137 |
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every argument vs my post has been a ridiculous unsupported comment..
@kafriel: I never stated that obito became madara.. I stated that they are 2 completely different beings. 1 being dead, 1 pretending to be the other Lets not re-discuss the whole eye bit since we simply have no idea.. Obito said he felt his body was ALMOST crushed.. Not completely, so possibly the right eye was still in contact.. This would connect with kakashi's power and him having the other eye.. + there are sooo many other arguments for obito being tobi.. But all these arguments mean nothing if kishi doesn't want him to be obito, but he clearly doesn't want tobi to be madara otherwise he wouldn't let every other character say: ''the one who calls himself madara''.. More interesting I find my statement of madara not being alive at all... Obito/tobi has NOTHING to do with madara.. He just stated to be him for no reason.. That's what I think, read my other post and please help me to find a real counter argument for that statement.. |
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^You're making me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry. *skin color changing into green*
ANGRY! ME ANGRRRRRY! AAAAAAAAAARRRRGH! Spoiler for marvel:
Are you talking about this Misfit? O_o Spoiler for img:
I think that Madara is pretty much like Mr. Fantastic, even though he'd prefer to be Dr. Doom...
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