2013-09-03, 10:34 | Link #4581 |
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^ I did say that he will use mundane weapons right? the only thing present full of use is IB and mystic eyes and even mystic eyes is last line. I'm also skeptical of mystic eyes of death perception. Glam sight from rental magica is also good. Alpha stigma is also good. But glam sight and alpha stigma helps in analyzing information and deconstructing it. eyes of death is the means to end.
Imagine breaker resets things while eyes of death ends things. Ironic right? I want to see things in different analogy which makes the story complicated which is also why I'm not confident to write it. It might not gave it justice. This is the Kamijou Touma that starts asking his action This is Kamijou Touma that stops moving forward and look back This is Kamjiou Touma that has doubts and not confident on his resolve This is Kamijou Touma that was left alone with no Index beside him
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2013-09-03, 13:25 | Link #4583 | |
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It start off with Touma discovering that he always had been a pawn of somebody and things got worse with every passing day. Academy City Directors decided that the fastest way to achieve SYSTEM is by forcing Esper into desperate situation (evolve or die type). A city wide battle royal with Esper versus other Esper versus mercenary versus Skill-out. In this situation, Touma was repeatedly lied to and tricked again and again but he hold on to his conviction until the the last straw which finally broke the camel's back was the major event in which his friends on the Magicians side(including Index) attempt genocide on everybody on science side (ala great flood style). To "restore faith and punish the heretics." The event climaxed with Touma killing Index.... not before she kill off somebody whom Touma care about because that somebody took the bullet during his brief moment of hesitation. This made him wonder if Index was deliberately getting close to him.... Considering that during that battle royal, everybody is trying to manipulate him to get on to their side, it is kind of hard to come to the conclusion of: "Yes, she is and so is everybody around him." Without the ability to trust anybody, the new villain of the bad future arc proclaim that Touma is no longer a threat since he is already "finished". = Story preferably start with a group of rebels (decoy protagonists) fighting back, trying to change Academy city back the way it used to be (normal school life) only to have their power/magic/whatever negated by Touma. "I will break/kill the illusion (normal life) of yours" ---- Rough idea, throwing it out there but have no plan to expand on it yet. Just seeing if there is any taker.
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2013-09-03, 22:03 | Link #4586 |
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That is a true and a good example too. Betrayal.
But I don't know where to play it as blank slate or gradual deconstruction and campione story is dead end. There is so little to happen and I don't know if I'll make Touma a complete different person or replace the MC of the story.... what do you guys think? the plot is dead end..... there is just no great threat in campione verse. I prefer to play with shana more or zero no tsukaima but the thing that I like campione is the campione system but not the story itself. The story is simple. Highschool dxd has more continues plot to it (if only only issei has more brains than libido I will actually like the series) Touma would be a loner because he doesn't want anyone to get involve or hurt but at the same time. Will he still stay the same or his view will change..... to much idea getting jumbled that I can't go on the story. The only thing I can think to move on is Touma to become a slider because the plot is dead for me if I stop at campione story. There isn't just much for me to play with. Unless I want an OC fest battle against gods. Which I prefer but I feel that the readers won't like a story bunch of oc's.
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2013-09-03, 22:13 | Link #4588 |
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random suggested timeline:
-Touma gets sucked into Campione world -Touma is labeled as threat that can kill gods despite not being Campione -gods and Campiones feel threatened by Touma because he can conquer them despite being "normal". He is a fugitive to all who exist there in terms of campiones, gods and those loyal to them. The only ones who welcome him are those that seek his power to free them but tendency is they sell him out. -IB is slowly mutating because the frame of reference is not applying. Kind of like system crash. It retreats to completely seal the invisible thing instead. -Touma cannot contain or use powers, but external magical equipment does not crumble or lose effectiveness in his hands anymore. -The gods assume Touma is no longer a threat -The gods and tyrant campiones don't see that Touma's strength is the allies he amassed without even his own knowing. -all the while, Touma is catching news of something that is like a god but nothing the likes anyone in that world has ever seen before. The description matches Gabriel and Touma resolves to finish what he started. Bah random thoughts. |
2013-09-03, 22:18 | Link #4589 |
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I think a good plot would be Touma trying to find his way back home while being hunted down by magicians trying to recruit him, gods trying to kill him, and Campiones... who are just too chaotic to predict.
And we don't even know if Aisha's portal Authority would work against the Imagine Breaker.
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2013-09-03, 22:22 | Link #4590 |
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then IB will become useless if it total shutdown inside of him. So he will be using magic equipment or magic?
my image of touma is the same as shiage. badass normal. he can't use magic the normal way and even authority are reduce in effects because of IB. His more reliant on IB and when physical attacked, he will use strategy or mundane weapons. I'm debating on giving him mystic eyes because it might kill his character but there will be progression. He gained the eyes when he stays in the void but he won't be able to use it right away. That's why its a gradual deconstruction. As his view turn darker when he saw the more prominent darkness on human kind. He starting to see a small crack and it gradually increase but as long as his core character is intact. His mystic eyes won't evolve further. I'm seeing a battle against pantheon... hmmm hmmm ideas are coming. The portal of Aisa will probably be destroyed. That's why I suggest a worm hole. A literal hole on the dimension and not just a portal. If IB touch a supernatural boundary then it will correct. A worm hole where he won't be able to touch the "walls" will probably allow him to pass through but as long as there is a layer of magic that he touch. It will be destroyed or corrected.
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2013-09-03, 22:30 | Link #4591 |
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not quite. IB will reside inside him instead of his right hand. This is both good and bad. This renders him immune to internal magic effects like curses, enchantment and even positive things like healing.
So again, he can use external supernatural powers so long as he doesn't need to pass it inside of himself like refining mana. This IS badass normal. Giving him eyes of death perception is not badass normal, that is godkiller level similar or exceeding IB. I trust your knowledge of nasuverse enough to know how gamebreaker that thing is even at a most basic stage. Gradual deconstruction happens during the timeline I described. People sell him out to gods and campione, for a better life, freedom from oppression. Something? I haven't read Campione but I don't doubt the existence of tyrant gods and Campione. Bad people trick him into killing benevolent gods who are oppressing the people Touma helps because those people are actually evil or something. |
2013-09-03, 22:30 | Link #4592 |
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tsunade, how far along do you think you are in writing this idea before you can post it? I'm a bit eager to see what your writing style is like.
Also, about your review on Chapter 7 of To Ascend, don't worry. Himegami is making an appearance in Chapter 8. I've just started it and written almost 2k words so far. As for Fukiyose.... I'm conflicted about whether or not to include her too. We never did find out what Level Fukiyose was or what esper ability she had. Hell, I'm thinking about going with her being a Level 3 Geokinetic. But she is going to be out of focus for a while in my next few Arcs.... Agh, I barely even have anything planned for the Sisters Arc. Not to mention those AU Arcs I want to include.
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2013-09-04, 00:01 | Link #4593 | |
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The problem is it will be hard to kill a god with mundane weapons and campione verse isn't at advance in magic or power level compare to index. they don't have game breaking spells and the gods there are hard to kill. Its like an ordinary mage vs a saint without any spell to actually kill a saint. wound yes, but kill is hard. but its practically challenging hmm.... For writing hmm.... I'll try to write one... the beginning the battle of Touma against gabriel but I can't promise a good one it will be my first writing a story.
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2013-09-04, 00:29 | Link #4599 |
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Thing is... I really like the idea. It's oddly different as he isn't a villain, but he does what he does to help himself. The byproduct is a happier victim but the KR is pushing the student to do evil before saving him. The reason is for no greater purpose than MONEY. hahaha
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2013-09-04, 10:11 | Link #4600 | |
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Aleister knew he is coming for him and tried to kill him with every single pawn he had in his hand. He even (somehow) managed to send the irregularity called Shige after him but this is one really pissed off Touma we are talking about. Aleister no longer has Magician side helping him because all the Magicians in Academy city is dead (killed off by Touma after Index's death...to prevent another Noah's Flood from happen again) and the Churches are too scared to sent any more Magician in after a few Saints are taken out, in fact they are too happy about pointing Touma in the right direction so he wouldn't go after them next. Accelerator is smart enough to escape Academy City with Last Order before thing get really bad (before the battle royale).
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