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prescience · 2010-09-12, 15:55

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Originally Posted by Arkeus

given that she is using flight platforms, i doubt it.

If you're talking about ViVid ch14, that doesn't really tell us much. Page 18 shows Teana floating in midair on a magic circle, in the exact same fashion as Nanoha herself on pages 1 and 2.

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OTOH, as said Vice is elite himself and doesn't have half of Striker era Tea's power.

Actually, Vice said that he isn't an elite, himself. But that could have just been him being self-effacing...

Kaijo · 2010-09-12, 16:00

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Originally Posted by dahak

It seems to be the other way round. Being able to achieve sustained Flight implies a minimum level of A without the reverse being true. Thus we know Isis is almost certainly at least A grade.

And if she's Canadian, that means she's at least eh grade.

Arkeus · 2010-09-12, 16:11

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Originally Posted by prescience

Actually, Vice said that he isn't an elite, himself. But that could have just been him being self-effacing...

Other people say he is Elite. Vice was still traumatized by almost killing his sister.

Also, it's more 'people need to be A rank in order to fly in upper atmosphere well enough to fight'.

Not just fly.

Nanya01 · 2010-09-12, 16:24

I thought it was A rank to skip going through the air force training myself.

Random Wanderer · 2010-09-12, 16:45

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Originally Posted by dahak

Razed by feral ninjas.

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Sister Schach can't and she's a AAA during StrikerS.

Schah doesn't NEED to fly. Her teleportation probably takes the place of most potential uses flight would have.

I assume that, given Teana's interests, she would have learned how to fly once she had the power to pull it off.

dahak · 2010-09-12, 17:04

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Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

I assume that, given Teana's interests, she would have learned how to fly once she had the power to pull it off.

And yet as far as we know she ended up learning Starlight Breaker instead in the six months after Jail's festival. Rather than getting a senior Airforce instructor to teach her.

So perhaps she flunked Flight school for some reason other than strength. Indeed having managed to get into Flight School before meeting Suberu implies it isn't for her a matter of strength.

Keroko · 2010-09-12, 17:34

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Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

True, I hadn't realized she'd gotten that far. The basic soldiers from first season and A's are A-rank themselves, as I understand it, and I didn't think Tia had passed them. If she has that much personal power now, she should be able to fly on her own.

They're not. Again, the majority of the mages are C and B-rank. Even the flying guys.

It's been a misunderstood quote for a long time, but one does not need an A-rank to fly. An A-rank or higher allows you to skip the normally mandatory service in the ground forces and go straight for flight training, but it is not a minimum power requirement.

00-Raiser · 2010-09-12, 17:53

I was under the impression in SSX that Teana was flying during the climax.

I don't see why she couldn't fly at this point, especially since it's one of the things she wanted to learn how to do. In the Vivid mock battle we see her using Subaru's wing road to get around, but I don't think that means she can't fly. Considering her fighting style, it'd be better if she didn't fly when she didn't need to. With high consumption spells like her illusions and cloaking, it's best if she battles with an energy conservative mind set.

NorthernFallout · 2010-09-12, 18:06

^ Negative on Teana flying in SSX. Though I don't exactly remember how it went, it didn't stand out. I'd have reacted on it in that case.

Random Wanderer · 2010-09-12, 18:19

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Originally Posted by AtomicoX

^ Negative on Teana flying in SSX. Though I don't exactly remember how it went, it didn't stand out. I'd have reacted on it in that case.

She was "above" where Subaru was in the wreckage, when she used Starlight Breaker to open a path for Subaru and Ix to escape. I can't quote it to you (even though I just read/listened to it like a week ago...) but I also believe it was implicit that she was in the air somehow.

NorthernFallout · 2010-09-12, 18:20

I had the impression she was standing further away, aiming down, as if the wreckage itself was below ground a bit, in a hole. Ah well. In that case, a platform of some sort.

prescience · 2010-09-12, 18:34

At the beginning of track 2-17, you can definitely hear Teana's footsteps, so she isn't flying.

That aside, in track 2-13 Teana talks about going inside the Marine Gardens complex; from that I had assumed that the rest of the action takes place indoors, with Subaru and Ix being underground somewhat.

00-Raiser · 2010-09-12, 19:15

I remember her and Wendi being in the air together. But I suppose she could have just been standing on Wendi's board.

In any case, I'm still going to have her fly in some of my fics

Rising Dragon · 2010-09-12, 19:20

Until ViVid states otherwise, all evidence points to us being allowed to believe whatever the hell we want about Teana's ability to fly.

prescience · 2010-09-13, 01:28

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Originally Posted by 00-Raiser

I remember her and Wendi being in the air together. But I suppose she could have just been standing on Wendi's board.

Nope, we start off hearing Teana running on her own, and then Wendi flies in shortly afterwards. Their conversation wouldn't make sense if they had been flying together.

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In any case, I'm still going to have her fly in some of my fics

That's fine by me; I'd be glad to know that she can definitely fly somewhere

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Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

Until ViVid states otherwise, all evidence points to us being allowed to believe whatever the hell we want about Teana's ability to fly.

Pretty much this. Though I hope ViVid does state otherwise at some point

dahak · 2010-09-13, 04:11

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Originally Posted by Keroko

An A-rank or higher allows you to skip the normally mandatory service in the ground forces and go straight for flight training.

Can't be. Teana washed out of Flight Training before she met Subaru during the first day of Ground Forces Training. [Also Command School, but thats irrelevant]

That was before they took their B test, so she has to have been a C or D when she entered Flight Training, without having served in the Ground Forces.

Sheba · 2010-09-13, 07:06

I like Teana with no flight, so she should think about using the grapple she used in the first episode of StrikerS, but in a more over-the-top Bionic Commando way. And crawl in air vents and jump up and down in elevator shafts like John McClane.

NorthernFallout · 2010-09-13, 07:09

And with no flight it sets her apart from everyone else, adding some flavour.

Akiyoshi · 2010-09-13, 09:02

That reminds me, it almost apparently on ViVid that Erio can fly now(but still a little confuse we don't know if he reach altitude thanks to Strada or by jumping at high speed), we don't know if Caro can fly by now an subaru doesn't have the need because she can "run in the sky", someone hknows if the forwards(besides Teana) are capable to fly by the time of ViVid or FORCE xD?

Kaijo · 2010-09-13, 09:49

The problem is, Teana wants to be an Enforcer, and those need to be well-rounded; similar reason to why they gave her dagger modes to be able to engage in close range combat. It would be sucky if she was pursuing a criminal and he escaped because he could fly and she couldn't.

Besides, technically speaking, none of the other forwards can fly, so she's not unique (yes, they do have implements which can get them around through the air, though).

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00-Raiser Burst Mode Author Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Windsor, Ontario Age: 37	I was under the impression in SSX that Teana was flying during the climax. I don't see why she couldn't fly at this point, especially since it's one of the things she wanted to learn how to do. In the Vivid mock battle we see her using Subaru's wing road to get around, but I don't think that means she can't fly. Considering her fighting style, it'd be better if she didn't fly when she didn't need to. With high consumption spells like her illusions and cloaking, it's best if she battles with an energy conservative mind set. __________________

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NorthernFallout The Interstellar Medium Author Join Date: May 2008 Location: [SWE] Age: 34	^ Negative on Teana flying in SSX. Though I don't exactly remember how it went, it didn't stand out. I'd have reacted on it in that case. __________________

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NorthernFallout The Interstellar Medium Author Join Date: May 2008 Location: [SWE] Age: 34	I had the impression she was standing further away, aiming down, as if the wreckage itself was below ground a bit, in a hole. Ah well. In that case, a platform of some sort. __________________

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00-Raiser Burst Mode Author Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Windsor, Ontario Age: 37	I remember her and Wendi being in the air together. But I suppose she could have just been standing on Wendi's board. In any case, I'm still going to have her fly in some of my fics __________________

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prescience Friendly Satanist Join Date: May 2009	At the beginning of track 2-17, you can definitely hear Teana's footsteps, so she isn't flying. That aside, in track 2-13 Teana talks about going inside the Marine Gardens complex; from that I had assumed that the rest of the action takes place indoors, with Subaru and Ix being underground somewhat.

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Rising Dragon Goat Herder Author Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 36	Until ViVid states otherwise, all evidence points to us being allowed to believe whatever the hell we want about Teana's ability to fly. __________________

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Sheba RUN, YOU FOOLS! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Formerly Iwakawa base and Chaldea. Now Teyvat, the Astral Express & the Outpost Age: 44	I like Teana with no flight, so she should think about using the grapple she used in the first episode of StrikerS, but in a more over-the-top Bionic Commando way. And crawl in air vents and jump up and down in elevator shafts like John McClane.

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NorthernFallout The Interstellar Medium Author Join Date: May 2008 Location: [SWE] Age: 34	And with no flight it sets her apart from everyone else, adding some flavour. __________________

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Akiyoshi The Flame Crussader Join Date: Aug 2009	That reminds me, it almost apparently on ViVid that Erio can fly now(but still a little confuse we don't know if he reach altitude thanks to Strada or by jumping at high speed), we don't know if Caro can fly by now an subaru doesn't have the need because she can "run in the sky", someone hknows if the forwards(besides Teana) are capable to fly by the time of ViVid or FORCE xD? __________________ May 29 2010-2019 ...9 years ago, the day after never would be the same ~The ASFB~

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Kaijo Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Somewhere over the rainbow, in a house dropped on an ugly, old woman.	The problem is, Teana wants to be an Enforcer, and those need to be well-rounded; similar reason to why they gave her dagger modes to be able to engage in close range combat. It would be sucky if she was pursuing a criminal and he escaped because he could fly and she couldn't. Besides, technically speaking, none of the other forwards can fly, so she's not unique (yes, they do have implements which can get them around through the air, though).