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Asuka' · 2017-09-17, 21:36

Just read the raw up to the arachne "ku, korose".
I gotta say zuruwan is too stupid. I understand that he want to send pluto and Co as van's ally. But to skip all the prep Ricklent provided is way too stupid. (or he just a sadistic) And it's so sad that those eight are jumbled into one mass of meat.

Spoiler for Legion:

I hope later on Legion could split their body into eight.

kari-no-sugata II · 2017-09-18, 05:01

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Originally Posted by Sakuya_Hime

could you give us a detail spoilers, if it is okay sempai.

also I have a question did Van killed Kanata (translated chapter 72) on raw ?

Kanata and Van meet quite quickly after chapter 72 and he gets a death suitable for the scum that he is.

For the latest raw chapter, IIRC it's something like this (going from memory):

Initial POV is from a criminal visiting the town Van is in and he's suspicious of the changes with the criminal organisation that he's been dealing with. He tries to overtake the organisation by killing the boss but it fails, since Van and friends are involved. There's some discussion about the transformation effects of Van's blood potion and it's concluded that only people who have received Van's guidance get a proper transformation. That's also some discussion of Birkyne's methods but Eleanora isn't especially familiar with the details of this but she suggests that Van shouldn't assume that just because they've not caught wind of Birkyne's operatives or similar that doesn't mean he's not fully aware of Van's presence (the implication is that Van wants to lure him out). Putting it another way, Birkyne is quite subtle it seems. There's also some brief POVs from the town lord (who is fed up with his uncle who is messing with Van) and also Birkyne who seems confident about being able to get his "dolls" close to Van.

Sakuya_Hime · 2017-09-18, 09:57

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Originally Posted by kari-no-sugata II

Kanata and Van meet quite quickly after chapter 72 and he gets a death suitable for the scum that he is.

For the latest raw chapter, IIRC it's something like this (going from memory):

Initial POV is from a criminal visiting the town Van is in and he's suspicious of the changes with the criminal organisation that he's been dealing with. He tries to overtake the organisation by killing the boss but it fails, since Van and friends are involved. There's some discussion about the transformation effects of Van's blood potion and it's concluded that only people who have received Van's guidance get a proper transformation. That's also some discussion of Birkyne's methods but Eleanora isn't especially familiar with the details of this but she suggests that Van shouldn't assume that just because they've not caught wind of Birkyne's operatives or similar that doesn't mean he's not fully aware of Van's presence (the implication is that Van wants to lure him out). Putting it another way, Birkyne is quite subtle it seems. There's also some brief POVs from the town lord (who is fed up with his uncle who is messing with Van) and also Birkyne who seems confident about being able to get his "dolls" close to Van.

thank you sempai for answering my questions.

one question though sempai how is kanata a scum I hope it is ok to ask this ?

Salante · 2017-09-18, 10:54

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Originally Posted by Sakuya_Hime

thank you sempai for answering my questions.

one question though sempai how is kanata a scum I hope it is ok to ask this ?

raping women, killing adventurers, stealing things etc. all in all, usual business. then tries to kill the van for the sole reason of profits in the next life. tries to trick van and assassinate him after getting defeated etc.

lexlexz · 2017-09-18, 12:51

i think van is going to build a gundam in the future

like golem robot with death atribute and lazer canons
with everything it has rights too
tough i cant picture a gundam where all those insect parts (etc) can fit
maybe it will even look like his soul self

Spoiler for soul self:

Asuka' · 2017-09-18, 18:10

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Originally Posted by lexlexz

i think van is going to build a gundam in the future

like golem robot with death atribute and lazer canons
with everything it has rights too
tough i cant picture a gundam where all those insect parts (etc) can fit
maybe it will even look like his soul self

Basically he already build a transformer since age 1. Every building or plant could turn into golem and vice versa.

If he can use giant unit like those golem transformer without endangering his allies, why should he build a Gundam where it needs a pilot which means involve/endanger his allies.

lexlexz · 2017-09-19, 05:38

true

i just think he should have a giant form !!

like when he fight with heinz where he creates a form where they cant find his weakness in Battle
i think it would be cool even if it was the size of the giants
(2-3m?)

bludvein · 2017-09-19, 10:01

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Originally Posted by lexlexz

true

i just think he should have a giant form !!

like when he fight with heinz where he creates a form where they cant find his weakness in Battle
i think it would be cool even if it was the size of the giants
(2-3m?)

He has a soul armor skill that's pretty similar to that already. He can make himself look as big as he wants, but there's not much benefit to going huge.

Asuka' · 2017-09-19, 10:09

On top of it the author seems like prefer little van. Many scene treat van as a doll or shemale that comfortable to hug. No wonder his age capped at nine (many event progressed when he nine years old, dunno how old is he on the latest raw tho', I'm still at noble orc & arachne arc) .

Sakuya_Hime · 2017-09-19, 21:08

I really hate that priest on chapter 73 sempai he is really a scum I hope Van killed him sempai.

Breimn · 2017-09-21, 03:12

So new raw out, 3 giant rats(born from undead breeding program) join the party.Fang is rank 3 Black dog and can give fear aura .Slum stall merchants join under Val since they couldnt beat him (he is going to slowly take over the merchant guild lol) and start Vida stalls too.
Visit to the orphanage where kids of various races get unofficial support(for political reason, not mercy) from the lord.
New guess for what Fang will rurn into at highest rank: Gamr
A few wiki quotes
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garmr

Quote:

blood-stained guardian of Hel's gate

The best of trees | must Yggdrasil be,
.... .. and Garm of hounds

One of the refrains of Völuspá uses Garmr's howling to herald the coming of Ragnarök

After the first occurrence of this refrain the Fimbulvetr is related; the second occurrence is succeeded by the invasion of Jötnar (giants) in the world of gods; after the last occurrence, the rise of a new and better world is described.

Garmr is sometimes assumed to be identical to Fenrir. Garmr is sometimes seen as a hellhound, comparable to Cerberus.

kari-no-sugata II · 2017-09-21, 03:38

Just when you think Van is lying low, he launches a chain store (with Vida's heart mark) that'll mentally corrode the entire town, lol. I'm guessing that the food he's going to give to the other merchants has his own blood as a "secret ingredient".

Has Van just become a drug kingpin or a honest merchant looking to make a fortune?

Breimn · 2017-09-21, 04:48

I dont think he is giving them his blood yet. He is just going to have them work for him and probably dedicate himself only to hunting all day and making sauce after the hunt.He can easily hunt for hundreds.
This in turn will lower job for butchers, adventurers and both adventurer/merchant guild.

kari-no-sugata II · 2017-09-21, 05:25

The title is "侵食される町　モークシー" (the encroachment of the town of Moxy), which feels like a reference to Van's 精神侵食 (mental encroachment) skill.

At the end it says: 　モークシーの町の住人に対して、ヴァンダルーの侵食が眼に見える形で現れるようになったのはこの時からだった。

Which I would translates as: For the residents of the town of Moxy, it was from this moment that the effects of Vandalieu's encroachment would start to become apparent.

This "moment" is when he starts a chain of food stores and points to a pot of... something. Well actually, we don't know for certain that it is food or drink related but that seems likely - if we consider the methods that Van can use to "change" people based on something physical then the most obvious one is his blood potions. I'm not saying the pot contains a normal blood potion, but it probably contains something similar - it's probably new but related to the blood potions in concept. Just consider how much this has been discussed during the current arc. I wouldn't be surprised if it's some special sauce or otherwise some kind of "ingredient" rather than a food (or drink) by itself. Hmm, or maybe it's related to coca-cola since Van had wanted the recipe

So anyway, it seems likely that the pot contains something that will be eventually consumed by a large percentage of the people in the town. They'll then start to receive Van's "guidance" and be changed because of that.

Areswarlord · 2017-09-23, 15:29

So just read the latest translation, and i got to say I'm ok with not forgiving Heinz and them. The comment there are like oh he should forgive or he become the demon king, which i think is stupid. I mean why should he just because he does some good deed it all water under the bridge now? I say fuck that i'm glad he stick to his guns.

Imagine Breaker · 2017-09-24, 05:51

^I refrained from commenting in Disqus but those comments pissed me off a bit. They forgot that Vida's races don't have the rights of humans. Especially dhampirs. And few people commented about rule of law. Lol.

kari-no-sugata II · 2017-09-24, 07:23

I'm not surprised there is a big difference of opinion here. It would be more surprising if there isn't one (particularly for those who have only read the translations). Van is a long way from your typical protagonist and does all sorts of creepy things that are more typical of the "evil' side. He's also more than a simple "avenger" out to punish the specific people who hurt him - he's against the "society" behind the people who hurt him. He doesn't claim that those that hurt him did something illegal either. Nor has he taken up the mantle of "equal rights" or similar. He doesn't really make a nice friendly appeal to the readers.

But what of Alda's side? Where does their legitimacy come from? It's basically "might makes right" - they killed or silenced those on Vida's side in a unilateral attack. Hardly fair and aboveboard. Hardly moral. And have they shown that they can manage the world properly? Nope. Things seem much nicer on Vida's side. Alda's side seems to be more defined by intolerance while Vida's side is much more tolerant. I'm not saying that a world run by Vida's side would be all sweetness and light but it seems a good bet that it would be better overall.

It could be argued that Van is going overboard with his revenge - but that's more in terms of what he is theoretically willing to do rather than the actual situation. In terms of what he's actually done, I don't think he has gone overboard. Though some of the more general background things he is doing seems a bit dubious.

Imagine Breaker · 2017-09-24, 07:43

Anyway, can I ask a question? Who's this Randolph? Just saw the name from a few spoilers.

kari-no-sugata II · 2017-09-24, 08:18

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Originally Posted by Imagine Breaker

Anyway, can I ask a question? Who's this Randolph? Just saw the name from a few spoilers.

He's a retired S-rank elf adventurer. He gets name dropped from time to time and has even briefly shown up for real in one chapter but for now he seems likely to hang around in the background, unless I've forgotten something.

kari-no-sugata II · 2017-09-24, 16:50

Hahaha. Interesting timing considering the post above - Randolph turns up in the latest chapter in the same region Van is in. However, no indication yet that he's likely to cross paths with Van.

Anyway, Darcia's religious lecture was a success. Kinda cheated a bit at the end but apparently it's a common enough occurrence amongst high ranking priests.

Those no good guards are going to get up to no good again. Sigh. That's crossing the line guys.

Meanwhile, Van's cauldron of delights turned out to be our old friends gob-gob and the other Ghoul foods.

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lexlexz Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Brazil	i think van is going to build a gundam in the future like golem robot with death atribute and lazer canons with everything it has rights too tough i cant picture a gundam where all those insect parts (etc) can fit maybe it will even look like his soul self Spoiler for soul self: what i got from gt is a image like this big ass armor of exoesqueleton six legs insect human and ...(?) four arms human insect a Shell shield in his right a skull scepter in his left his head has multiple eyes and antenas and he looks buffed up Last edited by lexlexz; 2017-09-18 at 13:05.

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Sakuya_Hime Disboard Citizen Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Avantheim	I really hate that priest on chapter 73 sempai he is really a scum I hope Van killed him sempai. __________________ *...........Social Group Illustration Uploader for "No Game, No Life" & "Oda Nobuna no Yabou" ...........*

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Imagine Breaker Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Deep within the abyss that is fatigue	^I refrained from commenting in Disqus but those comments pissed me off a bit. They forgot that Vida's races don't have the rights of humans. Especially dhampirs. And few people commented about rule of law. Lol. __________________ Samurai, in the old days, used two swords: a katana and a wakizashi. Having two blades in your belt meant you were a fully fledged warrior. But at some point, we threw away that pride, lost the belief that we should protect others, and all that was left was the one weapon to protect ourselves.... THE NEO ARMSTRONG CYCLONE JET ARMSTRONG CANNON

2017-09-24, 07:43	Link #578
Imagine Breaker Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Deep within the abyss that is fatigue	Anyway, can I ask a question? Who's this Randolph? Just saw the name from a few spoilers. __________________ Samurai, in the old days, used two swords: a katana and a wakizashi. Having two blades in your belt meant you were a fully fledged warrior. But at some point, we threw away that pride, lost the belief that we should protect others, and all that was left was the one weapon to protect ourselves.... THE NEO ARMSTRONG CYCLONE JET ARMSTRONG CANNON

2017-09-17, 21:36	Link #561
Asuka' Nin Nin Join Date: Oct 2015	Just read the raw up to the arachne "ku, korose". I gotta say zuruwan is too stupid. I understand that he want to send pluto and Co as van's ally. But to skip all the prep Ricklent provided is way too stupid. (or he just a sadistic) And it's so sad that those eight are jumbled into one mass of meat. Spoiler for Legion: I hope later on Legion could split their body into eight.

2017-09-19, 05:38	Link #567
lexlexz Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Brazil	true i just think he should have a giant form !! like when he fight with heinz where he creates a form where they cant find his weakness in Battle i think it would be cool even if it was the size of the giants (2-3m?)

2017-09-19, 10:09	Link #569
Asuka' Nin Nin Join Date: Oct 2015	On top of it the author seems like prefer little van. Many scene treat van as a doll or shemale that comfortable to hug. No wonder his age capped at nine (many event progressed when he nine years old, dunno how old is he on the latest raw tho', I'm still at noble orc & arachne arc) .

2017-09-21, 03:38	Link #572
kari-no-sugata II Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2015	Just when you think Van is lying low, he launches a chain store (with Vida's heart mark) that'll mentally corrode the entire town, lol. I'm guessing that the food he's going to give to the other merchants has his own blood as a "secret ingredient". Has Van just become a drug kingpin or a honest merchant looking to make a fortune?

2017-09-21, 04:48	Link #573
Breimn Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015	I dont think he is giving them his blood yet. He is just going to have them work for him and probably dedicate himself only to hunting all day and making sauce after the hunt.He can easily hunt for hundreds. This in turn will lower job for butchers, adventurers and both adventurer/merchant guild.

2017-09-21, 05:25	Link #574
kari-no-sugata II Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2015	The title is "侵食される町　モークシー" (the encroachment of the town of Moxy), which feels like a reference to Van's 精神侵食 (mental encroachment) skill. At the end it says: 　モークシーの町の住人に対して、ヴァンダルーの侵食が眼に見える形で現れるようになったのはこの時からだった。 Which I would translates as: For the residents of the town of Moxy, it was from this moment that the effects of Vandalieu's encroachment would start to become apparent. This "moment" is when he starts a chain of food stores and points to a pot of... something. Well actually, we don't know for certain that it is food or drink related but that seems likely - if we consider the methods that Van can use to "change" people based on something physical then the most obvious one is his blood potions. I'm not saying the pot contains a normal blood potion, but it probably contains something similar - it's probably new but related to the blood potions in concept. Just consider how much this has been discussed during the current arc. I wouldn't be surprised if it's some special sauce or otherwise some kind of "ingredient" rather than a food (or drink) by itself. Hmm, or maybe it's related to coca-cola since Van had wanted the recipe So anyway, it seems likely that the pot contains something that will be eventually consumed by a large percentage of the people in the town. They'll then start to receive Van's "guidance" and be changed because of that.

2017-09-23, 15:29	Link #575
Areswarlord Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2015	So just read the latest translation, and i got to say I'm ok with not forgiving Heinz and them. The comment there are like oh he should forgive or he become the demon king, which i think is stupid. I mean why should he just because he does some good deed it all water under the bridge now? I say fuck that i'm glad he stick to his guns.

2017-09-24, 07:23	Link #577
kari-no-sugata II Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2015	I'm not surprised there is a big difference of opinion here. It would be more surprising if there isn't one (particularly for those who have only read the translations). Van is a long way from your typical protagonist and does all sorts of creepy things that are more typical of the "evil' side. He's also more than a simple "avenger" out to punish the specific people who hurt him - he's against the "society" behind the people who hurt him. He doesn't claim that those that hurt him did something illegal either. Nor has he taken up the mantle of "equal rights" or similar. He doesn't really make a nice friendly appeal to the readers. But what of Alda's side? Where does their legitimacy come from? It's basically "might makes right" - they killed or silenced those on Vida's side in a unilateral attack. Hardly fair and aboveboard. Hardly moral. And have they shown that they can manage the world properly? Nope. Things seem much nicer on Vida's side. Alda's side seems to be more defined by intolerance while Vida's side is much more tolerant. I'm not saying that a world run by Vida's side would be all sweetness and light but it seems a good bet that it would be better overall. It could be argued that Van is going overboard with his revenge - but that's more in terms of what he is theoretically willing to do rather than the actual situation. In terms of what he's actually done, I don't think he has gone overboard. Though some of the more general background things he is doing seems a bit dubious.

2017-09-24, 16:50	Link #580
kari-no-sugata II Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2015	Hahaha. Interesting timing considering the post above - Randolph turns up in the latest chapter in the same region Van is in. However, no indication yet that he's likely to cross paths with Van. Anyway, Darcia's religious lecture was a success. Kinda cheated a bit at the end but apparently it's a common enough occurrence amongst high ranking priests. Those no good guards are going to get up to no good again. Sigh. That's crossing the line guys. Meanwhile, Van's cauldron of delights turned out to be our old friends gob-gob and the other Ghoul foods.