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Arya · 2012-04-03, 17:17

Really liked this first episode, good prologue. I guess the next episode will jump straight to the grown-up Jin time. Fighting scenes could be better though.

Spoiler for ep 1:

Kazu-kun · 2012-04-03, 19:05

Well, that was rushed. With this pacing you can't get attached to anything at all and so the fights seem inconsequential. It feels more like a typical shounen fighting story than the gruesome but dramatic seinen it was supposed to be.

First episode was disappointed but I'll watch a few more in the hopes the pacing will relax a bit to let the damn thing breathe. If it doesn't I'll drop it. No matter how awesome the fights may look, if it doesn't make me feel anything, it's just not worth it.

SQA · 2012-04-03, 19:35

For a series with shape-shifting, genetically engineered killing monsters, I have having a really hard time suspending my disbelief of Jin's complete lack of interaction with death before. Or most of the gamut of human emotions. I get what they were going for with that dialogue, but it was still jarring.

I liked the first episode, even for some of the weirdness. It's got a Claymore vibe to it, which is something I do like (every now and then). I also like the character designs. You know this is going to be violent. I look forward to the gallons of blood!

vansonbee · 2012-04-03, 20:16

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Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

Well, that was rushed. With this pacing you can't get attached to anything at all and so the fights seem inconsequential. It feels more like a typical shounen fighting story than the gruesome but dramatic seinen it was supposed to be.

First episode was disappointed but I'll watch a few more in the hopes the pacing will relax a bit to let the damn thing breathe. If it doesn't I'll drop it. No matter how awesome the fights may look, if it doesn't make me feel anything, it's just not worth it.

@MAL forums for episode 1, they stated the show crammed 13 chapters into the first episode...

This series had potential for 26+ episodes >_<

Gonna give 2nd episode a last try and if it feels rushed, I might read the series instead.

kakakka · 2012-04-03, 20:19

....

I recommend people to read the manga, like, right now.

Master_Yoma · 2012-04-03, 22:00

I have know idea what was going on it seem they left out way to much

Myssa Rei · 2012-04-03, 22:08

To be fair, even if you haven't read the manga episode 1 still feels rushed; knowing the source only exacerbates the feeling.

By the way, it's 12 chapters, not 13. That's STILL a lot for 1 episode though.

**monir** · 2012-04-03, 22:48

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Originally Posted by Myssa Rei

To be fair, even if you haven't read the manga episode 1 still feels rushed; knowing the source only exacerbates the feeling.

By the way, it's 12 chapters, not 13. That's STILL a lot for 1 episode though.

I didn't read the manga prior to watching it, well until I had to look for it to verify certain spoiler in the thread. The pacing felt very rushed to begin with, but when I found out that about 12 chapters were crammed in there, I just had to go through some of the pages to make sense of the episode content. First episode didn't do justice to the development at all. They should have spent at least two episodes to flesh out some of the things. There is still a slim chance a few things from those 12 chapters may be added later in the anime, but it might be too late to leave the desired impression on the audience for the anime. Then again, the intro seems to be far from what this show is going to be about. The show also might be scripted to fit a one or two cur series which amounts to 12-26 episodes at most.

Btw, here is the manga thread for anyone who wants to discuss it.

Guardian Enzo · 2012-04-03, 23:56

I wonder why such a popular manga couldn't get a commitment of longer than one cour. Seems like the potential is there for a long-running series. It's not like seinen shows aren't making money.

Not a reader of the manga and as many have said, liked the first ep very much - visually very interesting - but was struck by the blistering pace. Also, Romi Paku is still fantastic at playing boy roles.

Myssa Rei · 2012-04-04, 00:16

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Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

It's not like seinen shows aren't making money.

There's Seinen in the vein of Haruhi or Uchuu Kyoudai... Then there's seinen in the vein of Berserk (the type with blood, ultra-violence, and sex). Zetman is the latter.

MasterVampire · 2012-04-04, 05:12

So dissapointed that this is only going to be 13 episodes!

-Sho- · 2012-04-04, 06:23

I liked how Jin didn't know about death , cry & warm feeling.
Well , let's see how they'll handle this show.

Arya · 2012-04-04, 07:39

I have taken this first episode as a prologue to introduce the setting, so I didn't feel it as rushed, maybe a bit. I'm expecting a change of pace from the next episode. I didn't read anything about manga or anything else, so I'm just guessing even after having read previous comments here, where it looks like this first episode looked like being kid oriented in opposite to the real gore story

I agree about Jin having no knowledge at all about emotions and death not being realistic.

ninryu · 2012-04-04, 07:46

First episode was awesome. It had both action scenes and sad and touching moments. It looks more like shounen than seinen, tough.

konart · 2012-04-04, 09:57

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Originally Posted by Arya

I have taken this first episode as a prologue to introduce the setting, so I didn't feel it as rushed, maybe a bit. I'm expecting a change of pace from the next episode. I didn't read anything about manga or anything else, so I'm just guessing even after having read previous comments here, where it looks like this first episode looked like being kid oriented in opposite to the real gore story

I agree about Jin having no knowledge at all about emotions and death not being realistic.

1 anime episode = 12 manga chapters, lol

They did a good job though.

Arya · 2012-04-04, 10:24

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Originally Posted by konart

1 anime episode = 12 manga chapters, lol

They did a good job though.

Yep, I read about it, for that reason I was talking about prologue. I hope next episodes will have a better episode/manga chapters ratio that this one

konart · 2012-04-04, 12:20

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Originally Posted by Arya

Yep, I read about it, for that reason I was talking about prologue. I hope next episodes will have a better episode/manga chapters ratio that this one

Well, they are trying to adapt the story to fit into one cour it seems. The sweeper and Haitani only appear after 80 chapters or so. And Jin should met Couga only during the fight with fireplayer

King Lycan · 2012-04-04, 12:24

I've heard a lot of good things about the Manga waiting for it finish dl'ing ^__^

Xellos-_^ · 2012-04-04, 12:27

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Originally Posted by Arya

I agree about Jin having no knowledge at all about emotions and death not being realistic.

that is because they left out a lot of back ground material.

Kafriel · 2012-04-04, 14:04

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I hope next episodes will have a better episode/manga chapters ratio that this one

Next episode should have at least 5 chapters in it...well, I guess it's an improvement from 13 :P

2012-04-03, 17:17	Link #61
Arya Senior Member Join Date: May 2004	Really liked this first episode, good prologue. I guess the next episode will jump straight to the grown-up Jin time. Fighting scenes could be better though. Spoiler for ep 1: I'm glad Akemi survived, even if their life will be hard, given the work she had and probably won't have anymore. __________________ *The meaning of things lies not in the things themselves, but in our attitude towards them.*

2012-04-03, 19:05	Link #62
Kazu-kun Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006	Well, that was rushed. With this pacing you can't get attached to anything at all and so the fights seem inconsequential. It feels more like a typical shounen fighting story than the gruesome but dramatic seinen it was supposed to be. First episode was disappointed but I'll watch a few more in the hopes the pacing will relax a bit to let the damn thing breathe. If it doesn't I'll drop it. No matter how awesome the fights may look, if it doesn't make me feel anything, it's just not worth it. __________________

2012-04-03, 22:00	Link #66
Master_Yoma Nekokota Festival Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lost in the Fairy Forest	I have know idea what was going on it seem they left out way to much __________________

2012-04-03, 22:08	Link #67
Myssa Rei Moderate Haruhiist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Metro Manila, Philippines Age: 42	To be fair, even if you haven't read the manga episode 1 still feels rushed; knowing the source only exacerbates the feeling. By the way, it's 12 chapters, not 13. That's STILL a lot for 1 episode though. __________________

2012-04-04, 07:39	Link #73
Arya Senior Member Join Date: May 2004	I have taken this first episode as a prologue to introduce the setting, so I didn't feel it as rushed, maybe a bit. I'm expecting a change of pace from the next episode. I didn't read anything about manga or anything else, so I'm just guessing even after having read previous comments here, where it looks like this first episode looked like being kid oriented in opposite to the real gore story I agree about Jin having no knowledge at all about emotions and death not being realistic. __________________ *The meaning of things lies not in the things themselves, but in our attitude towards them.*

2012-04-03, 19:35	Link #63
SQA Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012	For a series with shape-shifting, genetically engineered killing monsters, I have having a really hard time suspending my disbelief of Jin's complete lack of interaction with death before. Or most of the gamut of human emotions. I get what they were going for with that dialogue, but it was still jarring. I liked the first episode, even for some of the weirdness. It's got a Claymore vibe to it, which is something I do like (every now and then). I also like the character designs. You know this is going to be violent. I look forward to the gallons of blood!

2012-04-03, 20:19	Link #65
kakakka Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008	.... I recommend people to read the manga, like, right now.

2012-04-04, 05:12	Link #71
MasterVampire Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010	So dissapointed that this is only going to be 13 episodes!

2012-04-04, 06:23	Link #72
-Sho- ~Omedetô~ Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Somewhere between heaven and hell !	I liked how Jin didn't know about death , cry & warm feeling. Well , let's see how they'll handle this show.

2012-04-04, 07:46	Link #74
ninryu It's yuri, bitches Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Israel Age: 28	First episode was awesome. It had both action scenes and sad and touching moments. It looks more like shounen than seinen, tough.

2012-04-04, 12:24	Link #78
King Lycan User Title eaten by ravenous bunnies IT Support Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Zeon Age: 33	I've heard a lot of good things about the Manga waiting for it finish dl'ing ^__^ __________________ Tumblr