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View Poll Results: Aquarion EVOL - Episode 23 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 12 | 18.46% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 13 | 20.00% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 8 | 12.31% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 3 | 4.62% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 3 | 4.62% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 1.54% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 4 | 6.15% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 2 | 3.08% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 1 | 1.54% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 18 | 27.69% | |
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2012-06-04, 15:57 | Link #261 |
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I finally got around watching the episode... oh boy. -___-) While there were many things I enjoyed about the episode (and dammit I teared up when Shrade died *sniff*) it really left a bad aftertaste.
Let's start with the good things. There were some really, really cool visuals in this episode. The whole "gather 'round children and listen to my story" setting made me roll my eyes but at least they managed to make it visually interesting for most of the time, and Fujiwara Keiji and Tange Sakura did a great job, being theatric and hammy just enough to keep up my attention when the visuals didn't. And the scene when Mykage kissed Zessica, it was really beautiful. (But wait, does this mean I won't see Mykage until he is eventually expelled from Zessica? oh no! >_< ) And Shrade, damn you, Shrade, you really did go out in a blaze of glory and Cayenne cried over you. *sniff* Also, Mykagezilla. OK, and now for the bad things. 1) Dogs. Yeah. No amount of cute flying doggies and "lol they're really the dog I totally called it back in February" make up for the fact that this is a) a retcon and b) bullshit and c) badly written bullshit. Oh, it would've been more than fine with Amata & Kagura being the dog, but Apollo? Seriously, What the hell? And no, it wasn't foreshadowed in Genesis, if you've watched the show do please tell me* whether by the end a) you had any doubts about who Apollo was the reincarnation of and b) there were any hints that made you even entertain the idea that Apollo could be that little dog we've seen once or twice. (To say nothing of the OVAs, as far as I remember they had no such hints whatsoever either.) So yeah, bullshit, and no amount of dogs photoshopped into earlier footage will change that. 1a) Oh yeah, and what was that about Touma wanting to destroy humans? The angels hunted humans for food and for the Tree of Life. Touma hated humans, sure, but destroying them all wasn't his top priority, first and foremost he was concerned with Aquarion and the Tree. Destroying humans was pretty low on his list (come to think of it, did he ever mention wanting to destroy them? I mean, angels survive by eating humans, in a way.) 1b) And wtf, the planet splitting into two after the Tree died? I thought that was why Apollo & Co. had to use Aquarion to pull the damn planet together. To, you know, prevent it from falling apart. Also, weird how the planet split into two and nobody seemed to even notice it... ^^;; 1c) So basically, during the entirety of Genesis Celiane/Silvia thought she was in love with her One True Love Apollonius and little did she know it was actually his dog. This has some great comedy potential in it, too bad that Evol plays it straight and by this makes it not funny. 2) I'm sure I'm the only one who is annoyed by this, but damn it Kawamori, what's up with the recycled Genesis footage again?! You had some really nice visuals in this ep, did you really have to ruin the whole thing by inserting footage with completely different artwork, color schemes, etc that stick out like a sore thumb? Argh! This already bothered me in the previous flashback, but here it was even worse. It's just jarring! FFS, reusing the soundtrack, reusing footage, how cheap can you be? >_< 3) While I'm sure everyone is upset about Zessica, I'd just like to grab the opportunity to be upset over what they're doing with Amata, or rather, what they're not doing with him. :/ After the previous episode I thought he was finally becoming the main character, but no, in this ep he was relegated to less than a supporting chara again. For fuck's sake, really. We have 3 remaining episodes, and by returning to the Mix storyline next week there will be even less time for Amata to actually do anything, which probably means he either really won't do anything or even if he tries he'll get one-upped by someone... again. What the hell. Poor boy. 4) And in the meanwhile I still have the feeling that the story is going somewhere that I won't like. Ah well, 3 more eps. Btw, wtf is up with Kagura still calling Mikono Sylphie. If he already remembers everything shouldn't he call her at least Silvia? (or... *gasp* Mikono?) *I'm being rhetoric here. Last edited by kuromitsu; 2012-06-04 at 16:08. Reason: I'll never get used to Cayenne's name |
2012-06-04, 17:51 | Link #265 | ||
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Wow, I never thought Aquarion EVOL would lose kuro. Maybe this really is the "Jump the Shark (or should I say "Jump the Dog" ) episode.
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Truthfully, Zessica, Amata, and Mikono have all turned into plot devices (while Kagura was always just a plot device). The entire love quadrangle are now four plot devices working in unison. Their dialogue is incredibly uninspired, and hence shifting into self-parody. Zessica is the only one of the four who says anything remotely interesting anymore, but even with her it's fairly straightforward angsting dialogue. This has basically become the Fudo vs. Mykage show. This might as well be their show now. We're watching a Fudo/Mykage chess match where the love quadrangle are simply pawns.
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2012-06-04, 18:08 | Link #266 | |||||
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By this point, I'm really curious about who Apollonius is, or whether all of him is just hanging out in Aquarion. He still hasn't been accounted for. It would be lulz-worthy if he turns out to be partly Alicia and she only wakes up at the very end.
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2012-06-04, 19:11 | Link #269 | |
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2012-06-04, 19:27 | Link #271 | |
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2012-06-04, 21:32 | Link #273 |
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I don't care much about the dog storyline, there are many animes where the main characters are dogs, cats, etc, we have many pets in anime, shoujo mangas, bla bla bla... this is irrelevant, the problem is where this Apollonius in all this? And why they changed the story in this way?
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2012-06-04, 22:03 | Link #275 | |
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2012-06-04, 22:08 | Link #277 | ||
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2012-06-04, 22:18 | Link #278 |
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I think everyone is getting a little worked up over the fact that he was a dog 24000 years ago. It isn't beastiality now. fact of the matter was that Apollo and Amata were born human and may have been human in the life before the dog. Heck our own incarnations might have been animals in the past.
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2012-06-04, 22:21 | Link #279 |
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Well played Kawamori. Well fucking played. Biggest WTF moment ever with the Pollon reveal, but from what little I remember of the original, it all makes sense in hindsight. I mean, Apollo runs like a dog for crying out loud, and from the beginning I was suspicious that Apollonius gets reincarnated into someone named Apollo (big RED HERRING alert there but I paid it no mind).
But what next? Mix simply in deep sleep and Mixy REALLY is her other world counterpart? What I'm more interested in is Zessica and her role here (no surprise there, as I love Zessica the most). Why is Mikage seem so looking forward into getting her pregnant with Amata? Assuming it is Amata he wants her to have a child with, considering that he promised Zessica would get what she wanted all along. Maybe, just maybe, Apollonius and Apollo both get reincarnated into Amata. So when Mikage split the original Amata, Amata retains the Apollonius side (with light wings) while Kagura gets the Pollon side (complete with dog/wolf sniffing senses and all). After all, the warnings before have ALWAYS labelled KaguraXMikono as 'forbidden love' (reference to CelianeXPollon?) but made no scene when its AmataXMikono (because its the 'proper' pairing via ApolloniusXCeliane?). Thus Mikage has always been pushing for Kagura (Pollon) to seek out Mikono (Celiane), in order for him to be with Amata (Apollonius) through Zessica's body. ....or I might just be wrong and that Fudo and/or the Solar Aquarion has been Apollonius all along. Honestly, with the plot twist bombs dropped left and right, ANYTHING can be a possiblity.
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I don't have hope but if that's the case that it would make sense why Fudo said Kagura and Mikono are forbidden but didn't seem to mind Amata trying to get with Mikono despite Kagura and him being the same person. Though that's doubtful, they really want to push this beastality and betrayal thing hard. Makes you wonder what the heck Apollonius has been doing? Watching his girlfriend getting tricked nto thinking his dog is him?
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