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Anh_Minh · 2012-09-10, 13:47

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Originally Posted by Dengar

The uniqueness of barely finishing your drawings?

Sounds pretty unique to me. You know a lot of other artists who could get away with that?

ChocoBar9 · 2012-09-10, 14:36

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Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

Sounds pretty unique to me. You know a lot of other artists who could get away with that?

Nah, it's just laziness and no it's not his trademark artstyle to gimp on details since we've seen how well and detailed his art can get when he actually tries. Another mangaka that notorious known for his laziness is Hagiwara (Bastard!!) who would sent in literally scribbles of unfinished pages with texts of apologies in them.

kitten320 · 2012-09-10, 18:50

Kubo has no backgrounds at all

He was lazy enough not to draw a beautiful sunshine that characters were talking about!

Who I think is a very hardworking mangaka is Mashima Hiro. Story tends to lack but his art is always very detailed. A balsam for my eyes to look at^^

zeniselv · 2012-09-10, 19:44

im not sure thats laziness, im not sure, but judging from some chapters i would say togashi doesn't have any assitants, because there are lazy authirs like miura who probably has been in a slumber longer than togashi, but when he work, its pure art that comes down, though he seem to have a "studio" helping him.

SHINOBI-03 · 2012-09-13, 03:53

Romi Paku (Pakunoda) is off the show for a throat surgery

http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=490297

Vicious108 · 2012-09-13, 14:42

Well, it makes sense with the roles she gets and how much she strains her voice sometimes.

Still, shouldn't they already have a bunch of episodes recorded in advance? I imagine we'll still hear her as Pakunoda for a while more.

leokiko · 2012-09-14, 13:05

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Originally Posted by SHINOBI-03

Romi Paku (Pakunoda) is off the show for a throat surgery

http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=490297

It's all Madhouse's fault that she's si--oops wrong thread.

vansonbee · 2012-09-14, 18:08

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Originally Posted by SHINOBI-03

Romi Paku (Pakunoda) is off the show for a throat surgery

http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=490297

Is this the new replacement?
http://myanimelist.net/people/82/Romi_Paku

The changes on MAL is fast!

Squarecrow · 2012-09-16, 00:16

Spoiler for 47:

Albafica · 2012-09-16, 01:10

Just watch episode 47, it was a good episode, but I still prefer the old version. Kurapika's new seiyuu is very bad for me, there is no power in his voice. It looks like a seiyuu who read his text, only that. When I heard his seiyuu in the previous version, Kurapika sounds so angry, so powerful, so "I'll kill you scum!".

Spoiler:

Go watch the famous episode 56 of the old version...

zeniselv · 2012-09-16, 01:34

the episode was very good, the figth scene i still prefer the old verion one but by no means this one was bad, but the events of the battle get better exposition in the new version, and after he captured uvongin this version did get better than the old one, hell, the part where kurapica torture uvongin for information is more violent than in the manga, also akio otsuka and miyuki sawashiro made this more enjoyable.

Clarste · 2012-09-16, 01:36

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Originally Posted by Albafica

Just watch episode 47, it was a good episode, but I still prefer the old version. Kurapika's new seiyuu is very bad for me, there is no power in his voice. It looks like a seiyuu who read his text, only that. When I heard his seiyuu in the previous version, Kurapika sounds so angry, so powerful, so "I'll kill you scum!".

I may be a bit biased since Sawashiro is my favorite voice actor ever, but I'm pretty sure she's going for an understated, more subtle performance. Whether that succeeds or not is a different question, but honestly "power" is the last thing I'd expect out of Kurapika's voice in this scene. The whole episode feels like he's one step away from breaking down.

Guardian Enzo · 2012-09-16, 01:37

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Originally Posted by Clarste

I may be a bit biased since Sawashiro is my favorite voice actor ever, but I'm pretty sure she's going for an understated, more subtle performance. Whether that succeeds or not is a different question, but honestly "power" is the last thing I'd expect out of Kurapika's voice in this scene. The whole episode feels like he's one step away from breaking down.

Which I believe is exactly what she was going for, and I think Togashi would approve of that.

j0x · 2012-09-16, 01:38

this weeks episode is great, so much intense action and the revelation that Kurapika becomes a specialist once his eyes are red is cool, so long Uvogin the brutality of your death will be a reminder that killing is that horrible

vansonbee · 2012-09-16, 01:50

So being 100% enhancer + strong physical base = not over powered at all.

and its confirm.. the hunterpidia does it runs base on people who are about to die or dead* XD

Like the old version better, but the new one had more explanation done, especially by Uvogin

Albafica · 2012-09-16, 02:04

That Sawashiro is not my favorite voice actor, so i'm not biased

, and I don't like her work at all.

When I read the manga, Kurapika looks angry and it's normal. Because a member of Phantom troup is front of him.

I wanted to say that the previous seiyuu did a powerful peformance.

Spoiler:

The seiyuu was too bad in my opinion. No emotion in his voice.

Nightengale · 2012-09-16, 02:27

I preferred the old version, but I got the same feeling that they were going for a different approach this time round.

The old version had Kurapika's acting literally like an avatar of vengeance. Deathly cold, yet clearly simmered with an indescribable hate and anger. It was excellent in the way that you could feel cracks of emotion pouring out of the ice-wall that Kurapika had built around himself only on occasional moments, but aside from those moments where he let himself become vulnerable and riled up, he was cold as ice.

On the other hand, Kurapika's emotions were clearly on a more vocal and less-repressed display this time round. The way he's animated adds to that, but also in the few scenes in which Kurapika allows himself be rooted away from rationality. Like when he punched Uvo on the table. He clearly allowed his emotions to get the better of him there, while the older version and the manga, as I could recall, had him acting on that in a much more cold fashion, more of a 'you're scum', with very little sense that Kurapika cared about the comrades.

I think Clarste put it best by saying Kurapika's a step away from breaking down, and that he's put in a much more fragile pot compared to his old version.

chikkychappy · 2012-09-16, 02:49

i like the cast of 2011 as a whole, but sawashiro's kurapica doesn't do it for me. i thought she was great in the hunter exam, but in york shin so far she hasn't portrayed kurapica's cold anger well.

Kazu-kun · 2012-09-16, 03:35

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Originally Posted by Clarste

I may be a bit biased since Sawashiro is my favorite voice actor ever, but I'm pretty sure she's going for an understated, more subtle performance. Whether that succeeds or not is a different question, but honestly "power" is the last thing I'd expect out of Kurapika's voice in this scene. The whole episode feels like he's one step away from breaking down.

I don't think he meant "power" in that sense. Kurapika's voice and demeanor in that old version is understated and subtle too, but still manages to convey a great deal of emotion. There are these little moments when you can see behind the mask, and his unfathomable rage becomes noticeable. I think that's what he meant by powerful.

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Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

Which I believe is exactly what she was going for, and I think Togashi would approve of that.

I think the direction is what really makes the difference in the old version. It makes you see how much Kurapika is hurting inside despite appearing all cold and shit.

Additionally, the color and lighting was a freaking work of art. It added a lot to the bleakness of that scene. What's happening with Kurapika here is a tragedy, and whoever did the art direction back then really knew how to convey that. The art in the new version is just a typical bleach look. No much creativity there.

All in all, I still liked this version. It's good. It's just that old one was really good.

ookamigirl · 2012-09-16, 04:56

Kurapika vs Uvo!
The path of revenge has begun!
Looks like Kurapika grew up to be a scary monster.
I was impressed he managed to master all the Nen techniques.
Flashback to his learning period good info.

2012-09-10, 18:50	Link #1823
kitten320 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007	Kubo has no backgrounds at all He was lazy enough not to draw a beautiful sunshine that characters were talking about! Who I think is a very hardworking mangaka is Mashima Hiro. Story tends to lack but his art is always very detailed. A balsam for my eyes to look at^^ __________________ My anime list

2012-09-10, 19:44	Link #1824
zeniselv Staring into your soul. Join Date: Oct 2010	im not sure thats laziness, im not sure, but judging from some chapters i would say togashi doesn't have any assitants, because there are lazy authirs like miura who probably has been in a slumber longer than togashi, but when he work, its pure art that comes down, though he seem to have a "studio" helping him. __________________

2012-09-16, 00:16	Link #1829
Squarecrow Supreme Ruler of Crowatia Join Date: Jun 2009 Age: 33	Spoiler for 47: Wow. That was amazing and totally worth the wait. Was hard to sit still through the episode I was so exciting and I couldn't help but start laughing from amazement when Kurapika revealed he had Uvo chained. Amazement and sadism. Almost went into a laughing fit when he was beating the hell out of Uvo but that'd wake up everyone. Expected Uvo would be able to put up a fight but Kurapika is so damn powerful now. His Scarlet Eyes power is totally hax and so are his chains' forced Zetsu but I guess that just shows his strength of will. Even without those Scarlet Eye powers I bet he still would have been able to take Uvo just because of the sheer strength and utility of those chains. The fight itself was surprisingly short but I don't even care, it was very well orchestrated and Uvo wasn't as dumb as he looks but Kurapika's abilities were just really hard to figure out. The Troupe boss seems pretty smart. __________________ http://www.anime-planet.com/users/LordCrow

2012-09-16, 01:10	Link #1830
Albafica Pisces no saint Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: France	Just watch episode 47, it was a good episode, but I still prefer the old version. Kurapika's new seiyuu is very bad for me, there is no power in his voice. It looks like a seiyuu who read his text, only that. When I heard his seiyuu in the previous version, Kurapika sounds so angry, so powerful, so "I'll kill you scum!". Spoiler: The fight was good, really well animated. I'm still a bit disappointed, but the York Shin City (new version) disappointed me in fact. When Kurapika said "Scum, you will atone though death", it has no impact. When you looks the old version, he looks so awesome... No emotion in his face. And when Kurapika' eyes turned to red in the flashback, it doesn't look as epic as the old version. When Kurapika's master said to him to stop his revenge, it was so "deep". The music here was perfect. So this fight was really good, but the old version is still better for me. Go watch the famous episode 56 of the old version... __________________ Join Albafica's fans and Yuzuriha's lovers Last edited by Albafica; 2012-09-16 at 01:22.

2012-09-16, 01:34	Link #1831
zeniselv Staring into your soul. Join Date: Oct 2010	the episode was very good, the figth scene i still prefer the old verion one but by no means this one was bad, but the events of the battle get better exposition in the new version, and after he captured uvongin this version did get better than the old one, hell, the part where kurapica torture uvongin for information is more violent than in the manga, also akio otsuka and miyuki sawashiro made this more enjoyable. __________________

2012-09-13, 03:53	Link #1825
SHINOBI-03 Senior Member Join Date: May 2012	Romi Paku (Pakunoda) is off the show for a throat surgery http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=490297

2012-09-13, 14:42	Link #1826
Vicious108 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007	Well, it makes sense with the roles she gets and how much she strains her voice sometimes. Still, shouldn't they already have a bunch of episodes recorded in advance? I imagine we'll still hear her as Pakunoda for a while more.

2012-09-16, 01:38	Link #1834
j0x Giga Drill Breaker Join Date: Jan 2009	this weeks episode is great, so much intense action and the revelation that Kurapika becomes a specialist once his eyes are red is cool, so long Uvogin the brutality of your death will be a reminder that killing is that horrible

2012-09-16, 01:50	Link #1835
vansonbee ❤Ichigo 100%❤ Join Date: Jan 2011	So being 100% enhancer + strong physical base = not over powered at all. and its confirm.. the hunterpidia does it runs base on people who are about to die or dead* XD Like the old version better, but the new one had more explanation done, especially by Uvogin __________________ MAL

2012-09-16, 02:04	Link #1836
Albafica Pisces no saint Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: France	That Sawashiro is not my favorite voice actor, so i'm not biased , and I don't like her work at all. When I read the manga, Kurapika looks angry and it's normal. Because a member of Phantom troup is front of him. I wanted to say that the previous seiyuu did a powerful peformance. Spoiler: Like I said, when Kurapika said "Scum ...." when Uvo says shit about his clan, in the manga Kurapika looks so angry. In the previous version, it was really good. In the new version, it wasn't good. The seiyuu was too bad in my opinion. No emotion in his voice. __________________ Join Albafica's fans and Yuzuriha's lovers

2012-09-16, 02:27	Link #1837
Nightengale ~Night of Gales~ Author Join Date: Dec 2005	I preferred the old version, but I got the same feeling that they were going for a different approach this time round. The old version had Kurapika's acting literally like an avatar of vengeance. Deathly cold, yet clearly simmered with an indescribable hate and anger. It was excellent in the way that you could feel cracks of emotion pouring out of the ice-wall that Kurapika had built around himself only on occasional moments, but aside from those moments where he let himself become vulnerable and riled up, he was cold as ice. On the other hand, Kurapika's emotions were clearly on a more vocal and less-repressed display this time round. The way he's animated adds to that, but also in the few scenes in which Kurapika allows himself be rooted away from rationality. Like when he punched Uvo on the table. He clearly allowed his emotions to get the better of him there, while the older version and the manga, as I could recall, had him acting on that in a much more cold fashion, more of a 'you're scum', with very little sense that Kurapika cared about the comrades. I think Clarste put it best by saying Kurapika's a step away from breaking down, and that he's put in a much more fragile pot compared to his old version. __________________ *Night~and~Gale: ~ The Final Mythology of the Man who Defied Destiny.* The sleeping lion shall awaken beyond the depths of time, crossing ten billion lights, come to Terra.

2012-09-16, 02:49	Link #1838
chikkychappy Member Join Date: Nov 2006	i like the cast of 2011 as a whole, but sawashiro's kurapica doesn't do it for me. i thought she was great in the hunter exam, but in york shin so far she hasn't portrayed kurapica's cold anger well.

2012-09-16, 04:56	Link #1840
ookamigirl Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	Kurapika vs Uvo! The path of revenge has begun! Looks like Kurapika grew up to be a scary monster. I was impressed he managed to master all the Nen techniques. Flashback to his learning period good info. __________________ My Blog --> ookami