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Perfect 10 | 236 | 64.31% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 95 | 25.89% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 25 | 6.81% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 7 | 1.91% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 3 | 0.82% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 0.27% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2011-12-30, 23:59 | Link #721 |
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The first time, Asakura was aware that Yuki, as a representative of the majority conservative faction, would disapprove of an action put forth by the radical faction, so while she seemed to think that killing Kyon was an inherently good action, she did not so much expect universal agreement with her opinion.
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2012-01-06, 08:14 | Link #723 | |
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2012-01-07, 01:58 | Link #725 |
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What it seems like is that knowledge of the future constrains free will but only for the one holding the knowledge. For example, since Kyon remembers meeting his future self in Disappearance, he is restricted to doing things that are consistent with doing the things that he remembered his future-self doing.
On the other hand, if he does NOT know the details, then he is free to act normally. For example, when Mikuru(Big) instructed him to toss the turtle into the river, but said nothing about leaving it there, Kyon was free to fish it back out right away. Since knowledge about one's future seems to prevent one from acting counter to such knowledge, this would explain why Mikuru's faction operate under a policy of giving their operatives as little detail of events as possible, since doing so allows the greatest latitude for action. This state of affairs can be likened to the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum observation. Basically, as long as you do not know about how an event will turn out, it remains in a superposition of all possible states as it normally does. However, the moment that you observe the event, it becomes fixed within a state (or range of states) that is compatible with the observed data. The odd and interesting thing about this as it relates to time in the Haruhiverse is that observations seem to be personal to the observer--person A can have knowledge that fixes the event in state X, while person B can lack that knowledge and thus act as if A's observation has not happened. This is why a person with knowledge of the future can use a person without such knowledge as a proxy for action as long as the details of the latter's actions remain "don't ask don't tell" until after the fact. |
2012-04-10, 21:58 | Link #726 |
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This is probably a "bit" late, but since I just saw the Disappearance, I'd like to give my 2 cents about it. I sort of just got into Haruhi (guess I'm a little behind ), and at first, it didn't really hook me. It really seemed just too slow, and at times, a bit mundane. And I couldn't really just enjoy it as a slice of life either, with its sci-fi elements and such. However, this movie really brought me back. I liked how they really pushed the plot along on this one, rather than letting it lull (endless 8). The movie also got Kyon to stop being so apathetic and admitting that he actually enjoyed the SOS Brigade's company. And blushing Yuki! That was unforgettable.
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2012-04-13, 09:00 | Link #727 |
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The beauty of this movie is probably that of looking mundane in the beginning and then twisting the plot and disorient you.
Btw, i really do suggest you the novels, because there will be even more interesting part of the story (especially the 10/11th novel). The snow mountain syndrome(1st part) is also awesome, but won't spoil anything. Enjoy it |
2012-06-08, 09:58 | Link #728 |
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I originally watched this in Japanese sometime last year, recently I was able to watch it in English.
It was sort of on a whim, but I'm glad I did it. Somehow I was able to appreciate the English version more.
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2013-01-17, 17:08 | Link #732 |
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Just rewatched it last night. Seeing Haruhi draging Asahina kidnaping into the club room and then standing with everyone in the SOS clubroom really gives an nostalgic feeling. I should rewatch the first season.
It has been 6 years, ever since I saw Haruhi the first time. Time passes by so fast.
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2013-06-06, 20:51 | Link #734 |
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Although there were some unescessary additions when compared to the novel, that kinda try to mess with the author's intent(thankfully, it dosen't really succeed), there were also improvements. Glad they managed to maintain Kyon's central choice completely intact: do you want a adventurous and supernatural life, or do you want a stable and peaceful one? Just like in Catherine, neither is better than the other, but everyone has a preference. The second focus point: Nagato's development, was also maintained rather faithfully.
That being said, this anime was stupidly good. The changes from a scene in a hospital ward to a roof-top was clever, to say the least. Gawd, when Kyon took the blame for what Yuki went through -- dem feels. Really is one of the shifting points in the series, especially on that relationship, where Kyon basically realizes that his friend was suffering and he was just non-chalantly relying on her all the time. It's understandable why his affection for Yuki increases so much after all that, so much so to the point that Koizumi berrates him for it.
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2013-06-09, 14:12 | Link #735 |
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Well, after watching the whole movie I'd say it was overall very good with many ups and downs under the way.
While I fully understand Kyou's reasoning and his ultimate decisions, I just fell Yuki is the biggest looser in all of this. She has for so long just been a emotionless robot, showing little of anything with "frustrations" having been built up over time. She wanted something different, a different reality, where she could be more "normal" Also very telling the Kyou was the only one left unchanged. Pretty much tells me that Yuki somehow treasures Kyou. And the way the Alt world is structured, I'd say there is a big chance for Yuki with Kyou. She has no rivals and he will come to spend time with her, as there is not many places else for him. Sha also slowly opens up during the time in the Alt world. She waits so he could walk her home. She invites her in. She also is desperate for him to join the club as she is so very lonely. When he reject her invitation to the club you can see the strongest reaction from Yuki ever. She is more or less distraught. Instead she is back to being a mindless robot almost with little emotion and little chance with Kyou. Just feel sad for Yuki. |
2013-06-09, 22:30 | Link #736 | |
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We must inform ourselves, though; it's not that Yuki dosen't have emotions in her reality, she just couldn't show/act upon them in her world because of certain circumstances. However, that's the resolution of the movie and the novel of Dissapearance. Kyon realizes that his over-realiance of Yuki, couple with her circumstances, led her to an emotional crisis. It marks a turning point to both their characters, since subsequently, Kyon pretty much does everything in his power to take those burdens off of Yuki, even to the point where Haruhi and Koizumi take notice, without her having to change herself and the world into something she's not. And that's the resolution. Kyon understands her pain, and by pretty much immunizing her from any killing or dissapearing the DITE might do to her, he pretty much just gave her the option to be emotionally free, without any consequences. Really, she was desperate, only someone desperate does something like change yourself completely. And, by the end of the movie, she gets the affection, care and un-burdenment to ease her emotional pain when Kyon does what he does in that roof-top. That's why her "Thank-you" is so important. So, I'm not really sad for her.
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2015-06-03, 22:33 | Link #737 |
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(I know that this thread is a bit old, but whatever!)
I just re-watched the movie a third time this year. I'm actually a pretty recent fan of this series. This series was recommended by someone on Youtube so I decided to check it out. I started with the Manga, then I watched the 2 seasons (Anime) and finally, I watched this movie. At the moment, I'm watching the new spin-off. This movie turned Yuki into my favorite character of this series and one of my personal favorite. |
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