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Old 2014-08-01, 11:40   Link #9481
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I've just read the last chapter in Volume 10. I shudder to imagine just how many people inversed Origami slaughtered. To read the spoilers was one thing, but to read the actual text itself is another matter altogether. The narrative successfully painted a vivid picture of just how apocalyptic that carnage was. I suspect even the shelters were not immune to Inverse Origami's beams of doom.

No wonder the author seems to have difficulties deciding the direction DaL should take after the Origami arc - he just turned the entire setting where the story took place so far, Tenguu City into a hell hole of death and destruction. If subsequent volumes reveal that Tonomachi and Ai, Mai and Mii were killed off during Origami's rampage in this chapter, the High School setting of Date a Live would be utterly broken for good, and I can see the author going down this route. Shoo out the clowns indeed.

There's no way to re-establish the status quo, after this chapter. And I applaud the author's bravery, in nuking the setting he spent 10 volumes building up and crafting stories in.
The status quo would be broken if this were almost any other series. But since spacequakes are a major and common part of this series, very little would actually change. If the events of Volume 7, where Miku took control of every one and Inverse Tohka carved a large chunk out of the city (at least in the anime),but only managed to move the timing of the school festival, Origami's attacks will be written off as another spacequake. And since the majority of Origami's attacks will be focused on the spirits and Yoshino and Natsumi are working on minimizing damage, the casualty count might not be that bad.
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Old 2014-08-01, 12:07   Link #9482
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It's also why from the looks of it the goal of the next book is to prevent Origami from getting to that point. Kurumi flat out said that she was too far gone before she sent him back.
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Old 2014-08-01, 13:16   Link #9483
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There's no way to re-establish the status quo, after this chapter.
And I applaud the author's bravery, in nuking the setting he spent
10 volumes building up and crafting stories in.
Yeah, one thing in Vol 10 is situation being irreversible. Maybe it can be
reversed, so it's up to the author will make it very dirty, or much better
than being dirty.

But I still think the story will go forward, I think we will still see where
it will go to in the battle between Origami and the spirits, Ellen and AST,
as (I guess) a lot of people are waiting to see
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Old 2014-08-01, 13:48   Link #9484
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If Shidou stops Origami in the past then she won't return Inverse and cause destruction.
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Old 2014-08-01, 14:02   Link #9485
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If Shidou stops Origami in the past then she won't return Inverse and cause destruction.


the past cannot be altered, will try to save the parents of origami and is only going to lead to his death
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Old 2014-08-01, 15:14   Link #9486
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Kurumo has a surname because she existed before Koushi writed Date a Live.
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Old 2014-08-01, 17:50   Link #9487
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the past cannot be altered, will try to save the parents of origami and is only going to lead to his death
We have no proof that this is a fact. Kurumi's whole character is built around the belief that the past can be changed. The whole stated goal of novel 11 in the preview blurb is Shidou going back to the past to prevent Origami from inverting to begin with. If the past is truly unchangeable then the next book will be a completely different tone then any of the others since Shidou would fail and Origami will be unsavable since she is so broken in her inverted form she is no longer reponding to the out side world.
Spoiler for vol 11 blurb:
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Old 2014-08-02, 01:18   Link #9488
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We have no proof that this is a fact. Kurumi's whole character is built around the belief that the past can be changed. The whole stated goal of novel 11 in the preview blurb is Shidou going back to the past to prevent Origami from inverting to begin with. If the past is truly unchangeable then the next book will be a completely different tone then any of the others since Shidou would fail and Origami will be unsavable since she is so broken in her inverted form she is no longer reponding to the out side world.
Spoiler for vol 11 blurb:
Actually, we have substantial reason to believe the past can be changed. Why else would Kurumi be gathering power? It's her ability, one would think she'd be aware if what she was doing was pointless.

That said, I still hope Origami dies.
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Old 2014-08-02, 01:55   Link #9489
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Actually, we have substantial reason to believe the past can be changed. Why else would Kurumi be gathering power? It's her ability, one would think she'd be aware if what she was doing was pointless.
To fulfill destiny.
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Old 2014-08-02, 02:08   Link #9490
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Actually, we have substantial reason to believe the past can be changed. Why else would Kurumi be gathering power? It's her ability, one would think she'd be aware if what she was doing was pointless.

That said, I still hope Origami dies.
You... You'd undo the completion of the circle of creation. The consequences of that happening would be catastrophic. What happens now is that Tachibana is adding more plot importance on her by making her a spirit, which also includes keeping her alive, whether you like it or not.
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Old 2014-08-02, 03:18   Link #9491
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Agree to that
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Old 2014-08-02, 04:49   Link #9492
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If Origami saved by Shido, she may joined Ratatoskr as their part of team, become aloof ally of sorts (especially for Spirits). As well telling all of AST members not all Spirits are bad.

That's if Origami change her behavior and her personal view about Spirits.
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Old 2014-08-02, 05:54   Link #9493
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If Origami saved by Shido, she may joined Ratatoskr as their part of team, become aloof ally of sorts (especially for Spirits). As well telling all of AST members not all Spirits are bad.

That's if Origami change her behavior and her personal view about Spirits.
I don't know if that would work on the AST as a whole, except those whom she was under, her company, can be convinced at the very least. I recall one of her colleagues decided to resign shortly after when Origami was discharged (consider that as her resignation in favor of DEM for more power by becoming a Wizard). So we might expect that Ratatoskr will gain more assets, which are her former AST company to join its course. That will become the first AST asset to join the Ratatoskr.

By the way, I'm more concerned of the possibility of her undergo a 180 degree change in personality, just like Miku did. From a cold-looking stoic to a happy outspoken girl.
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Old 2014-08-02, 06:15   Link #9494
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I don't know if that would work on the AST as a whole, except those whom she was under, her company, can be convinced at the very least. I recall one of her colleagues decided to resign shortly after when Origami was discharged (consider that as her resignation in favor of DEM for more power by becoming a Wizard). So we might expect that Ratatoskr will gain more assets, which are her former AST company to join its course. That will become the first AST asset to join the Ratatoskr.

By the way, I'm more concerned of the possibility of her undergo a 180 degree change in personality, just like Miku did. From a cold-looking stoic to a happy outspoken girl.
Unless if some of Ratatoskr members appears and explain everything. If AST leaders willing to understand about Spirit's nature, it's possible all of AST members join Ratatoskr and they become Ratatoskr's biggest asset after Origami.

Also, despite Origami become a happy-go-lucky girl, this doesn't change the fact that she's Tohka's rival. I'm looking forward if Origami become major team player for all Spirits, because her Sephira is the highest of all. As well Tohka and Origami become a partner in battle.
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Old 2014-08-02, 06:22   Link #9495
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By the way, I'm more concerned of the possibility of her undergo a 180 degree change in personality, just like Miku did. From a cold-looking stoic to a happy outspoken girl.
I don't expect Origami to have such a strong change in her personality as Miku did, I'm expecting Origami will probably become more open with the people around, more willing to express or show some emotions, and she'll lose a lot of the hostility and coldness she has towards the Spirit, she'll still be a bit hostile and cold towards the Spirits, but it'll be since the rest of the Spirits are rivals for Shidou's affection over any kind of hatred. Also her attempts to seduce Shidou will probably more daring considering what'll happen when she's been sealed
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Old 2014-08-02, 06:31   Link #9496
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As well Tohka and Origami become partner.
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Old 2014-08-02, 08:33   Link #9497
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Origami will probably have a gag of show up out of nowhere.
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Old 2014-08-02, 08:36   Link #9498
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Origami will probably have a gag of show up out of nowhere.
Well, she gained the ability to become light and appearing wherever she wants.
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Old 2014-08-02, 08:46   Link #9499
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Well, she gained the ability to become light and appearing wherever she wants.
And that would be freaky of her if she's daring to peep him in shower, and it would be worse if she has thermal/x-ray vision.
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Old 2014-08-02, 08:48   Link #9500
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Well, she gained the ability to become light and appearing wherever she wants.
Well from the chapter it seems like that move is a bit instinctive as, when she first used it Origami was also shocked by it
Spoiler for Volume 10:

From that the teleportation does seem to be instinctive as Origami is shocked by it. But once she figures out how to do it purposely and use a Limited-astral dress she's gonna use however she can to be close to Shidou
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