2011-09-27, 09:46 | Link #1203 |
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I just don't see why the constant jabs at Force are needed. All the critics have been saying is "well, I like Vivid, but I think it could be better if-" not "Vivid sucks, Force is so much better." Nobody's claimed that. At least, not as far as I've read.
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2011-09-27, 10:12 | Link #1204 | |
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Any demographic, not the problem. No matter it's shounen, shoujo, or seinen. However, a nice picture and spoil the eye doesn't mean guarantee has an interesting story anyway. That's just not enough. The more necessary is the storyline, character development, plot, and penetration in the behavior of fans know that change often. Not to mention, since Strikers, there are many growing number of characters and used as a decoration that can be simply discarded and replaced. Without explore deeper into the background and characteristics of each character.
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2011-09-27, 10:39 | Link #1205 | |
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Need I remind you that tropes aren't bad? For the record I do think Force is a lot better than Vivid.
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2011-09-27, 11:30 | Link #1210 |
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Near 1mil total. Like, I could see that for all the volumes of Force + Vivid, but the article is about Vivid, implying Vivid's sold near 1mil total.
It just doesn't add up, the volumes are averaging like 80k-100k first month... and I assume this total doesn't include Vol 4. Note that I asked a couple different people what this said but they could all be mistaken. That number being 1 million is true for sure though. |
2011-09-27, 12:52 | Link #1211 | |
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But still, 1 million... |
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2011-09-27, 13:16 | Link #1212 |
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Numbers also tend to be rounded up rather liberally to sound fanciful. Claiming a million sales sounds good on paper, while the actual number might be more around 900.000.
Which still is no number to sniff at, mind you. Especially for a single country those are pretty damn good numbers. |
2011-09-27, 16:44 | Link #1213 |
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Hmm... 29 looks interesting. Darn it, wish it was translated faster.
And personally enjoying Vivid more, of the two. I do feel that I've managed to grow rather attached to all the characters so far. I'm also curious about the new details they'll reveal about the world. Force, so far, doesn't look to be introducing too much, or, rather, looks like it'll be focused on one thing, whereas here, they at least look to be talking of new magic systems, if nothing else. |
2011-09-27, 17:07 | Link #1214 |
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True, although there are some disadvantages that, Vivid is more suitable as a refresher and reference closer to the reader to become familiar with the entire contents of the Mid Childa and Belka. Force is good too, only there's is moment that makes me headache...
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2011-09-27, 17:18 | Link #1215 |
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I don't see Vivid as a refresher. Rather, it looks to be the start of it's own series. It's a branch of the main series, whereas Force looks to be dealing with continuing the main story.
And, to the comment Vivid won't change Midchilda, that's to be expected. With it running alongside Force, they can't have it doing that. |
2011-09-27, 17:33 | Link #1216 | |
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2011-09-27, 17:43 | Link #1218 |
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It helps that the takubons have extra fanservice.
Vivid is a very safe series. It doesn't do anything drastic or heavy and just eases along at it's own pace. Readers can get comfortable with it and be satisfied with the fan pandering. Force by comparison is not. It has fans worried that something bad will happen and it'll change what they know and love forever. It's a scary prospect which is part of the reason for the many issues people have with it.
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