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View Poll Results: Little Busters - Episode 18 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 12 | 28.57% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 12 | 28.57% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 10 | 23.81% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 6 | 14.29% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 0 | 0% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 2 | 4.76% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2013-02-12, 04:55 | Link #101 | |
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2013-02-12, 05:05 | Link #102 | |
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Anyway,what I want to say is there're plenty of way to intercept Haruka's words rather than just "Oh I'm so happy right now so the world is also full of fluffy stuffs,flowers and rainbows". |
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2013-02-12, 05:06 | Link #103 | |
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2013-02-12, 05:14 | Link #104 | ||
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2013-02-12, 05:15 | Link #105 | |||
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Klash and Tempester - I'm kind of relieved that you guys have picked apart this episode/arc yourselves, because I was starting to wonder if there was something wrong with me for being the only person on this thread (for the first three or four pages) to have major issues with this episode.
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Just to be clear, I'm not saying that "There are no evil people in the world" is entirely without philosophical merit. I also think this idea would work as a reasonably good theme for a certain type of narrative. ... But a narrative in which you have an almost cartoonishly evil family viciously abusing the person who comes to that thematic conclusion? That's pretty self-defeating if you ask me, lol. Quote:
Morally speaking, I think she's somewhat similar to a person who steals a loaf of bread to feed his/her starving family. On the one hand, what practical choice did she have? Like the bread-stealer, it's either commit a bad deed or risk a family member dying. But then, there is the principle of the thing. Stealing harms someone, and what Kanata repeatedly did to Haruka clearly harmed her, and I think there was some collateral fallout from it to (in other words, there were innocent victims caught in the crossfire between Kanata and Haruka). Kanata should feel sorry for hurting her sister, even if it was for a good cause. If Kanata just flippantly went, "Well, of course I was a bitch to you. Otherwise you would have been killed, girl!", I would see her in a more negative light. But since she was sincerely apologetic about it, I don't think she's a terrible person. I think she's a good person at heart. Quote:
Kanata is also more interesting to me than any of the main heroines. Kyousuke is probably the only character in this show that I find more interesting than Kanata, at least at this juncture. But I will admit that Kanata's emotional breakdown in this episode was a touch more melodramatic than what I'd like.
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2013-02-12, 05:24 | Link #106 | |||
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2013-02-12, 05:30 | Link #107 | |
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That much was genuinely beautiful. It's for that bit alone that I can understand people loving this episode.
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2013-02-12, 05:35 | Link #108 |
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I've issues with pretty much every episodes but I'm too fed up to pick on every little thing and compared it to the VN. I guess I've already gave up on the show mentally and now just trying to be optimistic while watching it
But I'm happy people talking about its story and characters here with depth unlike other places where they just "Okay,decent arc...NOW BRING KUD ON ALREADY" ....... Also,I wonder if Kanata being a tsundere have crossed anyone's mind |
2013-02-12, 05:48 | Link #110 |
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I was somewhat getting that feeling too but I'm not sure. Although if I'm reading Klash's post right, Klash seems to imply something about Kanata feeling good talking to Riki? Well I don't know but it's quite possible in EX since there's even a route for her.
Either way, are we expecting to see Kanata going full dere with Haruka? Haruka: Onee-san! Kanata: *faints with happiness
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2013-02-12, 05:58 | Link #111 | |
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And faint with happiness is just overreacting it... |
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2013-02-12, 06:49 | Link #112 | |
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Not really. She has absolutely no attraction towards Riki whatsoever in Haruka's route. The main point with Kanata regarding Riki was how "conveniently" he shows up like Haruka's saviour, despite being an outsider.
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I personally think Haruka's route was the a bit better than the majority of the heroine route in LB, specifically because you had interesting perspective regarding conflict and characters being not so polarized in black or white (although Haruka was sort of a simpleton for the majority of the original route). The problem of the route was how the VN conclusion was nearly non existent, and you had a somewhat "rushed" acceptance for Haruka regarding Kanata, despite it took ages for her before regarding her quest to know more about Shou (which was drastically cut in the anime). I think thoug that her conclusion doesn't need to be similar to Kanata's route (not be discussed here, of course), as they could potentially expand the route for a believable branching result. However, the "best" conclusion would have been Kanata's instead, which might show up later, who knows.
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2013-02-12, 09:07 | Link #114 | |
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2013-02-26, 19:08 | Link #116 |
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I don't think the fact that Kanata's right arm containing no scars is a mistake.
If you re-watch the opening and the episode, only her left arm is revealed to be covered with scars. In the previous episode, during her conversation with Riki about the level of happiness being constant in the world you can see her holding her left arm with her right hand as if it was injured. In this episode she is also holding her left arm as she confesses to Haruka. I know many Asian parents who hit their child's left arm when they see them use it to eat etc and scarring a child in one place is definitely more effective (and more painful) if they don't want to be caught instead of whipping them everywhere. |
2013-04-25, 11:10 | Link #117 |
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Good episode. Though I wasn't sure why Kanata was pretending at the start of the episode (and even thought it was one big conspiracy), it's nice to see things end well. (I don't even want to read how the route was butchered any more... )
Hopefully they start interacting normally even in school now. And I support Mio going to take care of the family!
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2013-08-25, 00:24 | Link #118 |
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just can't resist to bump this thread
Haruka's arc is simply the most beautiful so far I just want to hug Haruka during whole episode.... while slapping and hugging Kanata as well their story is just wonderful... too bad that Riki is only acts as good counselor in here the one who is in active part actually only Haruka and Kanata don't really care about the adaptation stuff since I'm anime-only viewer this episode is enough to touch my heart last thing I want to know is... is there much differences between Haruka's arc and Kanata's arc (in Little Busters! Ecstasy)??? or is it the same but from different point of view? |
2013-10-02, 03:09 | Link #119 |
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Well, this arc was oddly subtle for Little Busters.
It was oddly subtle for Key. Hell, I'd say something about JC Staff, but whatever. It was very good and more suited for my sensibilities. But yea, part of why I felt a disconnect and couldn't finish this anime was that I felt the characters were way too cartoonish and their antics were pretty ridiculous. On the other hand Haruka's arc offers some more down to earth storytelling. The complex family situation was kind of a stretch to grab but it doesn't really matter, as we explore the humanity of two characters that were previously so emotionally distant. Haruka, someone that's been treated so unfairly throughout her life, and constantly having her actions criticized just no longer gave a damn about right and wrong, thus resorting to trolling people. I mean if you just get shit upon for whatever you do, then you tend to become more distrusting of authority and rules. Meanwhile, Kanata had to always "win" in that stupid rat race and bear the burden of having to always perform and put down Haruka. The whole imposter arc was kinda disturbing and didn't seem to go anywhere, though it does bring upon a new side to Kanata that I am more interested than I really should be. But hey, they really care for each other and fuck those assholes already. Life after will be tough, but it's good to be able to live life on your own anyways. And the people involved sacrificed much to get to this point. Also, Haruka looks pretty hot in the end; I mean I know she likes to draw attention, but still, lol. And did I just compliment JC on this kind of thing? Oh god. Next up is Menma Kud. Ah, fuck.
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