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View Poll Results: Critique of Episode 18 | |||
10 out of 10: Near Perfect... | 16 | 14.68% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent... | 30 | 27.52% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good... | 29 | 26.61% | |
7 out of 10 : Good... | 20 | 18.35% | |
6 out of 10 : Average... | 5 | 4.59% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average... | 2 | 1.83% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor... | 1 | 0.92% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad... | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad... | 3 | 2.75% | |
1 out of 10 : Torturous... | 3 | 2.75% | |
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2012-11-04, 00:12 | Link #82 | |
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Oh well guess it comes down to "Everyone gets along and lives in harmony? BORRRRINNGGGG!" So we all complain, no one listens to anyone else's opinions and we're right back to where we started. A bit of a waste of time. So then. Same time next week everyone? |
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2012-11-04, 00:18 | Link #83 |
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Personally, I think in-depth conversations entertained by those who enjoy a series - character analyses and relationship discussions (not just shipping) and the like - are frequently much more interesting than negative conversations. I'm not saying conversations have to be echo chambers of praise, but in practice... honestly, most criticism tends to be either people getting excessively butthurt or just missing the point.
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2012-11-04, 00:21 | Link #84 |
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...it's like getting high?
...that first high will always be the best and no matter what you can never reach that same level high again as your body gets more adapted to it...making you feel more like sh*t... ...when viewers have seen that one called "masterpiece" anime that made them go orgasm...they go look for another one with that kind of expectation only to be disappointed... ...and even if they do find that next "masterpiece" it wouldn't be as orgasmatic... ...then as time goes on their perception on anime gradually becomes more negative... |
2012-11-04, 00:23 | Link #85 | |||
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Honestly, I would prefer if people who don't enjoy the show focus more on their reasons for not liking it (what they expected vs. what they got), rather than insinuating that it's all the anime's fault for being "objectively terrible". (But I've had this gripe for years now, so it's nothing new. This is just the latest example.) Quote:
Anyway, this is probably getting into a tangent so maybe we should go back to the episode in question. One other thing I noticed in this episode is that they actually addressed one of the questions people had about why Suguha would enter a VR world despite her brother's condition, which is basically to better-understand what he was going through. And then having "found her wings", she decided that it meant something to her for her own independent reasons. I think that was a good way of adding a layer to her character and helping us see how she got to the point where she is today (and why Leafa is important to her).
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2012-11-04, 00:30 | Link #86 |
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In the spirit of bringing this back to the episode in question:
Anyone else notice the story has switched entirely to Suguha's POV (except for the Asuna scenes) since the "logout" scene of last week? Until now they've only switched out of Kirito's POV for whole episodes twice: Once for Silica and once for Lizbeth (and since they were side stories it was less noticeable)... |
2012-11-04, 00:33 | Link #88 | |
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(And I don't see how he's much like Kirito. Even in-game, he's not that good. And Kirito has gained confidence from his years in SAO. And he's not trying to get into anyone's pants save Asuna's, so it's really no surprise Suguha would react completely differently. ) |
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2012-11-04, 00:47 | Link #89 | ||
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(Actually, now that I think about it, this whole arc is just as much about freedom as the first arc was. The first arc was freedom from a death game, but now this is more "freedom of will/destiny".)
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2012-11-04, 01:11 | Link #92 | |||||
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Gotta love how Sigurd thinks he can treat Leafa as property because her leaving will have a negative effect on his "Reputation." Kinda reminded me of what Heathcliff did when Asuna simply tried to go on "leave" to party with Kirito, then again Heathcliff had an actual reason for it. Met too many people like this online and quite frankly I find it sad. She was just in his "party" correct? Not Guild? Does ALO even have guilds?
Glad to see some character development for Suguha...kinda all I have to say about her. God they love showing how adorable Yui is. I think it's funny that she obviously loves her "Mama & Papa" but has yet to realize what for herself what love is. considering she's an AI I think she's doing very well. Kirito & Leafa being stalked by a bunch of Salamanders. Word must have gotten to them that a powerful Spriggan and Sylph have teamed up, and we just cant be having that in this game now can we? Quote:
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2012-11-04, 01:22 | Link #93 |
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Hmmm. Pretty much expected all the negativity from that little so called "fan service" scene. All in all the pacing in this arc is constantly hitting a bit of a low tempo. Again as expected. No complaints but no praises either. But due to the cliffhanger I think it's safe to assume things are going to start picking up soon. For those who're considering dropping the series it's you're call but personally I'd like to stick w/ a series I've invested my time in until the end just to see how it all pans out then I'd voice my criticisms after seeing the whole picture. As for those expecting/wishing for the old SAO gang to team up in ALO I think even if they did log in they'd be of too low a (skill)level to help Kirito out. I mean granted that they still all have their Nervgears then they'd have the hax stats. But if not then tough luck. Maybe they can help in the real world. But then again what could they do. Two of them are high-school and middle school girls respectively. Maybe Cline could help out somewhat? Egils done his informant stint. And as a bartender. Very fitting.
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2012-11-04, 02:10 | Link #94 | |
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2012-11-04, 05:21 | Link #96 |
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Pretty good episode overall. The so-called fan service has actual, meaningful content in it so it's not just a waste of minutes, and that's pretty good in my opinion.
A lot of people are bm-ing Recon for being a lot of things, but I personally don't see what's wrong about him. Remember that Suguha was the one saved by Kirito, not Recon, so when a strange Spriggan suddenly shows up at the doorstep being friendly and all - in a world intentionally created to make different races hostile towards each other - his suspicions are completely justified. It's just concern for his good friend, not to mention Suguha is Recon's love interest. And then in this episode, Recon clearly exhibits his intent to follow Suguha and Kirito on their journey, but had held himself back for what seems to be important reasons. This shows that he's not just a love-sick obsessive fool who cannot bear to leave Suguha's side, and has a clear sense of purpose and direction. Also, despite Suguha's strange insistence to follow what must be to him a completely mysterious stranger, he had trusted her judgment that Kirito is a good person and didn't make a fuss about it, and considering how serious it is to be branded as a 'Renegade', that is quite the strong sense of trust he has there. He even has the balls to state right out towards Kirito that Suguha is his partner - or at least something like that before he was cut off completely - at this was done in front of Suguha's presence, so obviously he's not a coward who stabs people from behind the back. I'll say Recon is a pretty cool guy who managed himself pretty well despite having a slightly timid nature. |
2012-11-04, 05:28 | Link #98 | |
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For Sugu, she just seems to be annoyed at Recon's constant unwanted advances more than anything else. |
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2012-11-04, 05:31 | Link #99 |
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So wait, does she know it's him or not? Kirito's character looks so much like him, only an idiot wouldn't be able to see it. Or maybe I'm mistaken. I need clarification, please!
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2012-11-04, 05:48 | Link #100 |
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For the record, I generally have no issue with depravity. If our Big Bad wants to do disgusting things to Asuka, more power to him.
I'm just severely disappointed at the inclusion of cousin love, and the general lack of solid footing this arc has. While real death isn't a motivating factor anymore, I'd expect a little more sense of urgency from Kirito (I certainly wouldn't be checking what time it is to see if I can continue playing were I in his shoes). SAO was always doing it's best to straddle a fine balance between otaku pandering and an attempt to tell a solid drama (I'm perfectly willing to put up with some pandering-I realize production companies do have to make money), and I just think it's gone a bit too far into the otaku pandering while skirting away from the actual drama. I think I'd have been happier if the show had simply ended at episode 14, even if we never got to see Kirito and Asuna together in "real" life. And, while I'm sure they will indeed get together by the end of this arc, having to suffer this arc isn't worth it.
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