2013-04-02, 08:48 | Link #2361 |
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So, Shana got that popular back then only due to the presence of a tsundere girl like her? Hmm...that’s...incredible . I mean, it’s not like Shana invented the “cute tsundere girl” right? What makes her that special? (aside from outside factor like her KugiRie seiyuu, etc)
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2013-04-02, 09:00 | Link #2363 |
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And to be fair too, I’m not asking about that. What I’m asking is: if we look at the anime itself, what’s so special about Shakugan no Shana? I mean, even I can understand the appeal of anime like Code Geass (outside from the hype that it's Clamp + Sunrise collaboration or whatnot) no matter how ridiculous the story is to me. So, is Shana’s charm as a “cute tsundere girl” really that strong back then?
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2013-04-02, 12:14 | Link #2364 | |
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2013-04-02, 15:36 | Link #2365 | |
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Shana is a strong driving force for the series. She's cute, she's feisty, and her character design, especially when she's in her fighting form, rocking that red hair and fiery eyes, is a thing of beauty. Her iconic design is what most stands out, and probably what immediately jumps to mind for most people when they hear the title. (Which in itself is just so marketable and memorable, "Shakugan no Shana". It's got alliteration, it's easy to pronounce without knowing Japanese, and it's just fun to say.) She is by no means the only selling point of the series, though. I think that the mythology is just fantastic. The world-building is what kept me most interested, despite loving the characters. The terminology is well fleshed out, and the idea of people fading from existence is surprisingly grim. Spoiler for Mild concept spoiler:
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2013-04-02, 16:43 | Link #2366 | |
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Spoiler for Shana Season 1:
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2013-04-02, 17:13 | Link #2367 | |
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> tsundere > wields a sword > red hair/black hair. > loli Others > romance > animation She's a legend.... |
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2013-04-02, 17:25 | Link #2368 |
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I'm glad you found it informative, writing it was my pleasure.
I can see how someone would perceive the terminology as heavy-handed as opposed to interesting. I think it's fleshed out enough to make learning more about it fun and intriguing, but others might think it's unnecessary baggage or confusing exposition. It's all part of the world-building which aids in creating the general atmosphere of the series, which is hard to nail down in words, but which combined with the music excels at evoking a mood of ominous mystery. I also think that the contrast between the normal, everyday activities they engage in, and the bizarre monsters they face during the battles, is a strength rather than a weakness. Unfortunately, the second season focused entirely too much on the former, leading to a prolonged arc of almost nothing but school life, which is my least favorite part of the series. Margery, by the way, is also one of my least favorite parts of the series, so I guess me and Jeffrey Kauffman (and by extension, you) just take away very different things from the series. Which is, of course, perfectly fine.
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2013-04-03, 07:39 | Link #2371 |
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Anime you hate but everyone seems to like?
Thanks you for mentioning it: -Shakugan no Shana -Zero no Tsukaima I did not like these shows. Although I didn't watch them to the end, I was still disappointed from what I saw. I only watched them because they were "popular" but then I understood that it is not something that I could enjoy watching, so i dropped both of them. Because reasons. Nah the reasons are actually certain tropes that I really cannot stand. The main characters also felt quite... "artificial" and "stereotypical".
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2013-04-04, 21:19 | Link #2374 | |
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I do recommend finishing the third season if you watched the first two seasons, since it does get better at the expense of being more convoluted and makes you figure out what's going on instead of telling you explicitly. It's more plot, less romantic comedy. It also has a satisfying conclusion which makes the convoluted season worthwhile despite being slightly cliche. I'll probably add my opinion on the series later but need to edit it since it's one page already. == The mythology of the series is what I believe to be special about Shakugan no Shana. The whole idea and philosophy about existence is one aspect that distinguished this series from many others.
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Well this is an " Anime you hate but everyone seems to like?" thread. The other one would be Evangelion. I am sorry, I tried but I am not pretentious enough.
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2013-04-05, 09:21 | Link #2377 |
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I already mentioned this one but...High School of the Dead. The only reason why lots of people go nuts for this one is because it is the closest anime can get to the critically-acclaimed TV series Walking Dead. I don't see what's the appeal on zombies in general. I can see why people can like ninjas and pirates but not zombies. Ninjas had interesting code of honor and pirates had cool rebellious attitude. Zombies had none of what make ninjas and pirates cool. Just rotting corpse craving for brains, which HSotD zombies don't have.
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2013-04-06, 18:05 | Link #2380 |
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My dumber part of me wants to mention ****** *** but my wiser part of me says mentioning that show, even just by its name alone would only increase its notoriety and makes more people even more interested on it. It already popular just for its controversial part alone rather than plot, characters, production qualities, etc. Regardless how bad I want to mention it but it safer to letting anyone know about that shitty show in first place.
So the thread is asking me "Anime you hate(or at least dislike) but everyone seems to like?" and I should say Starry Sky. "Hate" probably too strong word for this show but there is one thing I really hate about not because it popular(to the target audiences at least) but rather how it didn't get much criticism as it should. Where should I start? First the unlikeable heroine who just there of sake of being there, probably equivalent to loser, lonely geek for no reasons all pretty girls attracted to him in male-oriented harem shows. Second it's just a pure fanservice show for girls, proving that it just as shallow as male oriented ones. Hell even male-oriented harem shows are evolving and no longer centered on loser geek got pretty chicks theme like we saw in Live Hina days anymore. |
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