2008-05-01, 10:48 | Link #1402 |
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For all of you who, like me, love Hayami (specially grown-up), a gem wallpaper (WS, 4:3 and 5:4 for all your needs) :
http://www.daisuki.com.br/wallpaper/1402 |
2008-05-05, 16:17 | Link #1404 |
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Wow....Hinata pulling a seductress act, eh? I wonder what the show would've been like if she actually acted that way...
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2008-05-05, 16:37 | Link #1405 |
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The way the show ended, I would've been perfectly satisfied with a Hinata ending. Alas, the top two candidates met their untimely demise (one of them before the show even got started), and Hinata was the only one to remain in the world of the living.
Well, one can always hope that the reappearance of Hayami was yet another one of Takuma's hallucinations, but that does that necessarily bode well? Not farfetched to consider Takuma damaged goods at this point. |
2008-05-05, 18:22 | Link #1406 |
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"Top two candidates" by what measure? If you go by the usual anime metrics (first to appear, primary dilemma, focus of first episode, primary appearance in OP, etc.), it seemed to me that it was never really in question. The show was all about Hayami from beginning to end; never saw much wiggle room.
It seems to me you've replaced one "illogical" ending with an even more illogical possibility, but whatever works for you!
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2008-05-05, 21:32 | Link #1407 | |
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The show never makes clear what the "true" reality is, but maybe that's kinda the point. May Takuma and Hayami lead a happy life together, even if it's only in Takuma's imagination... Last edited by DanielSong39; 2008-05-07 at 19:48. |
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2008-05-06, 23:12 | Link #1408 | |
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I still vote that the provided explanation is more likely given the context of the story, but hey. *shrug*
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2008-05-07, 00:59 | Link #1409 |
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Who knows? Perhaps the whole anime was all in Takuma's head after all.
The anime slowly lost its grip on reality and it was completely shattered by episode 10. But I give it props for providing some entertaining content in the meantime - and I did enjoy the show as a whole, even after it went off to never-never land. |
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Otoha / (cough HINATA cough) did pass away years ago, however what your saying about her is not with the story is it? Quote:
lastly yes its true that this series did not make clear what is 'true' reality, (but what exactly is 'true' reality?) but it does clearly portray the STORY and what is and is not reality within the STORY, i think thats all anyone that watches this can ask for (personally i dont think it is up to the viewers to portray what is or is not, just go along with the flow seems to work fine unless in special circumstances) ps i am only expressing my opinion regarding the posts above and do/did not wish to target specific members personally
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2008-05-07, 10:58 | Link #1411 | |
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Anyway, I've long since accepted that the above is one "reading" of the events, and because they pass by so quickly and are mostly vague and referential, it makes it very difficult to prove 100% (sort of like the whole "who the father of Maki's child is" thing -- an obvious hint, but only if you get the subtlety of the reference). This is why we can still be having this conversation a few months after the fact.
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2008-05-07, 14:42 | Link #1412 | |
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2008-05-07, 21:17 | Link #1414 | |
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Kidding~ Anyways, more seriously. If Hayami didn't die, then why did Hayami not come back to meet Takuma until after so many years? If the train didn't run her over, she could have went back to Takuma after the train passed, but she didn't. Why did Takuma believe she was dead? Spoiler for DVD 4 info + pics:
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2008-05-08, 09:03 | Link #1415 | |
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Spoiler for h2o:
but yea who would mourn for him .... maybe the village? :P
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2008-05-30, 09:22 | Link #1417 |
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Well damn, sorry to bring up a thread that was last active like 2 weeks ago.
I just finished this series and I was surprised at the ending. I viewed this anime in a more realistic manner and couldn't believe they resurrected someone from the dead - The best way to look at it is takuma hallucinating again and all this is fake. The validity of otoha and her abilities are also in question. The other way of looking at this is if I decided that this series does in fact involve magical powers (ie otoha), therefor making it "unrealistic" then obviously I can believe that hayami was resurrected in real life because this series does not focus on real world physics. I do not question the fact that the hayami did die when she ran onto the train tracks. It was definitely implied that she died up until the end. I will take this series as face value though because it seemed like the makers of this series intended that otoha is actually real and that she did allow hayami to come back in real life. It's really up to the person how they want to view it. I like happy endings anyway (who doesn't?!?). An ova with some explanation doesn't hurt either... Overall I enjoyed the series because it got my emotions running...
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2008-05-30, 16:12 | Link #1418 |
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I believe your second "theory" would be the correct one. I don't think there is anything to make us question Otoha's existence, short of assuming Takuma "imagined" her as well ... but i think that is making things more complicated than they need to be, and Takuma imagining a spirit that matches the one from story Hotaru wrote while being unaware of it is stretching things a bit thin.
Otoha was there before Takuma started imagining he could see as well, (and in the end he had already come to terms with the situation for a few years already, so there was little reason for him to suddenly see a hallucination. If he had indeed remained in his delusional state it would be different, but that was long since gone). So ... at least in my opinion, there is nothing to imply that Otoha (Hinata) wouldn't be what she was always shown to be - a supernatural element of the show.
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2008-05-30, 17:04 | Link #1419 | |
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