2012-11-09, 20:13 | Link #21 |
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The short version of this question, as has already been answered, is that a series will go on and on and on so long as the publisher is making money off of it. besides, you also have the opposite of a series that goes on forever- a series getting axed/ended prematurely (one of my favorite examples here is Mx0- then again, that author usually tends to get axed every time)
On the subject of To-Love-Ru: you would probably be seeing even more of the original, but the original ended because of legal issues going on in the author's personal life. To-Love-Ru: Darkness I swear in part spawned because the manga-ka wants to blur the line between ecchi and hentai as far as possible without actually going into hentai, and of course continue To-Love-Ru's story (what little of it there is)
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2012-11-09, 20:21 | Link #22 |
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Child, have you heard about Garasu no Kamen (Glass Mask) manga? It's been serialized since January 1976 and it's still on-going even when the author promised to end it soon some time ago. Detective Conan has a potential to be like this .
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2012-11-09, 20:34 | Link #24 | |
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That's what I think people should remember,some magazines like shonen jump really push their author to keep going as long as it's selling well,even if sometimes the author is reluctant to do so. Another example from shonen jump: Kochira Katsushika-ku Kameari Kōen-mae , it's not known in the west,but it's been running for 35 years weekly with no hiatus and has over 180 volumes and 1800 chapters.An anime adaptation ran for 8 years (96-04) but there's no subs but I'd definatly want to watch it out of curiosity. Are there any shoujo long runners?As in over 40+ volume long?I know some shoujos that are between 20-30 volumes but that's it.All the long runners I know are either shonen or seinen
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2012-11-09, 21:41 | Link #27 |
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I do think that it's not merely about money. It's also about the fanbase's attachment with the fiction works they've been loving for long time. After you spend months, even years with a world and its characters, it’s not easy to let them go. It’s the same reason that authors sometimes give their characters happy endings even when the story would have been a thousand times better had they not. After spending so much time with them, you truly come to care about these characters, these creations, these children of your mind, and it’s hard to set that aside. It’s like leaving your best friends behind forever, when it would be so easy to continue holding on. I even recalled myself bawling my eyes off when reading the last chapter of Flame of Recca.
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2012-11-09, 22:12 | Link #28 | |
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And let's be honest here, as for the original manga, other than Maison Ikkoku, Rumiko CAN'T write an ending.
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2012-11-09, 22:33 | Link #29 | |
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I agree. Ranma’s ending is meh. I can’t say anything about Inuyasha’s ending. I read the ending but I didn’t follow the manga so I don’t know exactly how “good/bad” the ending is to the overall story.
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2012-11-09, 23:24 | Link #31 | |
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I think a story can go on forever as long as it can still present interesting and fresh new ideas, but at the slightest hint of staleness the author should make preparations to close shop. Stories that can't do this are usually those that focuses too much on a single character (or just one small group of them) and the world they exist in is too small for any expansion or different PoVs.
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But mostly I just like Siam Shade's '1/3 no junjou na kanjou' as the ending theme
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2012-11-09, 23:54 | Link #32 | |
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2012-11-10, 00:05 | Link #33 |
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I actually quite dislike most long-running series. Not the stories, not the characters, but the idea that it runs too long.
There's no way I'm sitting through hundreds of episodes of Naruto when I can be using that time to fill with a whole new story and concept. There's so much out there as is, and although I don't hate these shows I've come to drop them eventually. Detective Conan was a personal favourite of mine, but damn it this crap never ends. On MAL, you'd see I give honest ratings to these but have dropped them. Like I said, I'm not one of the haters who will mock you for liking Bleach or something like that. Just don't expect me to sit through the entire thing while I can be adding another chance series to my list in that time.
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Any of those superheroes doesn’t really have a “continuous/linear” story like mangas though. It’s an endless cycle of remake/reboot/revision/reborn/redefine/renew/refresh, another universe, cross-overs, etc. People don’t have a problem with that (mostly).
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2012-11-10, 00:22 | Link #36 | |
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2012-11-10, 00:30 | Link #37 | |
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DC comics recently rebooted itself, and offers a good example here... Spoiler for Superman spoilers:
Some Superman fans hate this with a passion, but some have embraced it. In any event, DC can get away with it because Superman is bigger than the story that contains him (so is Batman, Spiderman, Wolverine). Few anime characters reach this height. The most important characters in NGE have (which is why Anno can get away with the massively different tone of the Rebuild movies compared to the original).
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2012-11-10, 05:08 | Link #38 | |
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I know Bakuman is not an entirely realistic portrayal of the manga industry, but at least it corroborates the suspicion that it's hard to be serialized. When you're a mangaka who can (supposedly) barely earn enough to cover expenses of art materials, assistants, etc., you'd probably think twice before risking your livelihood to bet on a new serialization.
That's probably the situation for less popular mangakas. For the successful ones, the reason probably leans more towards this: Quote:
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2012-11-10, 10:15 | Link #39 | |
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Another problem is that the big events are more often than not pants on head retarded, with millions of parallel worlds, people coming back from the dead all the time and what not (reminds me of the stuff I drew when I was 9)... but I'm getting off topic. As for manga, it is indeed bothersome when a story drags on for too long, but at least you can be confident it will end at some point (well, except stuff like Bastard or Berserk, but that's because the authors are always on hiatus). Given how hard it is to stay serialized, I can't blame mangakas for wanting their series to last as long as possible when they're popular. I'd do the same if I were in their shoes. The same goes for publishers. It's getting harder to find hits nowadays, so it makes sense to extend the current hits they have rather than letting them go. The entertainment industry is first and foremost a business, after all. I'd like to add there are exceptions among neverending series. Jojo's bizarre adventure has been going on for 25 years and has managed to remain fresh by consistently reinventing itself. In its case, it's a very good thing it hasn't ended yet. The most recent part of the story (Steel ball run) has even been the best of the series so far. I'd gladly take 25 more years of Jojo.
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2012-11-10, 10:49 | Link #40 | ||
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I cried, threw tantrums and even contemplated writing a tearful letter to Rumiko Takahashi with the help of Google translate begging her not to end Ranma 1/2. To be honest, I wouldn't have cared how long it would have dragged, that manga was one of my best companions throughout my child/teenage years and I couldn't bear it to end. For Inuyasha though, I did remember reading about how she was forced to continue due to it's huge popularity thus the battles started dragging, the shikon-no-tama shards increased to more than a million pieces..etc. Wouldn't be surprised if this is the case for most weekly serialized shonen manga, in which case the fandom is entirely responsible. Quote:
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