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Duo Maxwell · 2013-08-14, 21:07

So I found out that in Touhou 14, bombing is essential to obtain more lives. Look like non-bombing run will be extremely hard from now on.

Nofear3838 · 2013-08-14, 21:49

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Originally Posted by Duo Maxwell

So I found out that in Touhou 14, bombing is essential to obtain more lives. Look like non-bombing run will be extremely hard from now on.

Helpful, but not required. There are plenty of spots where planned bombing will certainly be good, though.

Also, Hard 1CC and Extra Cleared. Now just to wait on ZUN to patch the game as it crashes at stage 4 if you use any A shot-type.

Hard 1CC

Extra Clear

Both were rather easy, imo. For hard, I probably restarted on stage 1 ~15 times, only about 5-10 actual full run attempts to clear it. For extra, a bunch of restarts 30 seconds in, but only 10 (I think?) actually full attempts to clear.

Lunatic, though? I died 10 times to the opening spam before I went "lol, lets go to youtube to see how the fuck you do this"

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Originally Posted by Kimidori

got to stage 6, fought remilia to the last HP bar with 3 lives and full bomb left, thought I will just spam bomb to victory, only to find out that her last HP bar is immune to bombs, which result in those me watching those last 3 lives go 1 by 1 and game over. OTL

was totally clueless in that last pattern and my reaction was not fast enough to make full use of those bomb to clear out bullets when I nearly get hit.

Yeah, that will be the same for every touhou game. The last spell card on the last boss is always not able to be damaged by bombs. In addition, if you try extra mode, bombs will not do damage for ANY of the last bosses spell cards (Although, they will for the mid-boss and any non-spellcard attacks)

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Originally Posted by Kimidori

still can't get pass stage 5 without running out of continues. OTL

Lunatic training helped though, after playing it for 10 run I can clear 3 first stage in normal without continuing, compare to use up 2 continues in the first 3 stage in some of my first run.

is EoSD one of the harder or easier game of touhou series?

EoSD is probably somewhere in the middle. For Normal Difficulty, I'd rank it as IN -> MoF -> PCB -> EoSD -> DDC -> TD -> SA -> UFO, from easiest to hardest

If you haven't gotten the hitbox patch for EoSD, though, I highly recommend that you get it. It will make your life a lot easier (and something to get used to as every Touhou game after EoSD as the visible hitbox when focused)

DaBackpack · 2013-08-15, 19:38

There's a lot of bomb pieces on level 1

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2013-08-15, 19:46

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Originally Posted by Duo Maxwell

So I found out that in Touhou 14, bombing is essential to obtain more lives. Look like non-bombing run will be extremely hard from now on.

I kind of like it. It makes the game easier for low skill players, but harder for enthusiasts. Isn't that the ideal game design?

Duo Maxwell · 2013-08-15, 20:55

I don't hate it, just that I feel like it's almost impossible.

Guess it's time to start using those bombs instead of saving it up. I keep on dying with 5/6 stock of bombs and they are just all gone.

Cosmic Eagle · 2013-08-15, 21:06

14 seems to be much easier...until some signs force you to bomb. Don't like bombing...

Anyway, still can't beat the fun that was Youmu in 13....gods that anti-anything slash...so fun to use

Nofear3838 · 2013-08-16, 07:31

Well, there are already videos up of people No miss - No bombing Lunatic for every stage (with the exception of 4A, since it's not accessible to anyone atm), so a perfect game is certainly possible. Just took a couple days for people to find the safe spots to cheese the spells, lol

erneiz_hyde · 2013-08-16, 17:13

How the hell do you guys get past that mirroring boss? It's enough that I still stumble upon bullets with the normal set, took me a long time to get used to the feel, at which point all my lives are gone

Man, not playing Touhou for a couple of years really damages your sense in playing the game. Even now I still haven't 1cc th13.

Duo Maxwell · 2013-08-16, 17:24

When in doubt, bomb. That being said, I need to force my brain to forget all about muscle memory try to plan how I gotta move.

Gotta say I love this game, from the bosses to the music and the gameplay. TD didn't really hit me with its music aside from Rigid Paradise. DDC manages to make me love all the characters with their design and theme (still screw Seija with her control flipping bullshit), especially Sukuna and Raiko.

Another funny and interesting thing, Raiko's magic apparently obtained from the Taiko no Tatsujin games

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Nofear3838 · 2013-08-20, 21:50

My biggest complaint is that the Raiko's theme doesn't really feel like an Extra Stage theme.

RRW · 2013-08-20, 23:38

Feng Lengshun · 2013-08-21, 10:56

Though I do like the design of the extra boss. I so want to bang her.

What? She's a drum! Get your mind out of the gutter!

Kimidori · 2013-09-06, 23:55

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Originally Posted by Nofear3838

EoSD is probably somewhere in the middle. For Normal Difficulty, I'd rank it as IN -> MoF -> PCB -> EoSD -> DDC -> TD -> SA -> UFO, from easiest to hardest

oh god f**king damn it SA, 1cc'ed normal EoSD, PCB, IN but SA normal is harder than Hard mode of PCB and IN, also MoF Kanako last spell card is freaking BS.

for me it so far: PCB->IN->EoSD->MoF->SA.

and you telling me UFO is harder than SA?....

Cosmic Eagle · 2013-09-07, 08:22

12 is definitely messier by far...

Feng Lengshun · 2013-09-07, 10:25

I thought that that's because of the rather unconventional bullets and hitboxes, which made people used with the previous ones got surprised. I still think that SA is the hardest, followed by vanilla EoSD (if we include the extras of both into equation).

Cosmic Eagle · 2013-09-07, 12:21

No, 12 generally is more...disorganized in pattern. The stages feel like a mass of stuff just being hurled at your face

Feng Lengshun · 2013-09-07, 20:17

Which people aren't used to. I can handle it just fine because I'm not used to the previous one, so I'm not surprised at all.

Kimidori · 2013-09-08, 09:30

is there any doujin retelling the story of the main game like the fan anime Memories of Phantasm?

Feng Lengshun · 2013-09-08, 10:34

There are a few but the one that comes to memory fastest is this: http://danbooru.donmai.us/pools/2476 (Site is NSFW due to Ads)

It's titled A Certain Eastern Urban Fantasy by Amano Chiharu, and it is a retelling of the main game story in an AU setting similar to Toaru series. It's awesome, and it has a damn hot Izayoi Sakuya. I especially like the Storyteller!Patchouli and the 'Love-Machine' Marisa's battle.

Kimidori · 2013-09-13, 11:48

that feel when you confidently face Okuu with 7 lives only to see them all get crushed...
......

2013-08-14, 21:07	Link #341
Duo Maxwell A Proud Lolicon Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: In front of my computer Age: 37	So I found out that in Touhou 14, bombing is essential to obtain more lives. Look like non-bombing run will be extremely hard from now on. __________________

2013-08-15, 20:55	Link #345
Duo Maxwell A Proud Lolicon Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: In front of my computer Age: 37	I don't hate it, just that I feel like it's almost impossible. Guess it's time to start using those bombs instead of saving it up. I keep on dying with 5/6 stock of bombs and they are just all gone. __________________

2013-08-15, 21:06	Link #346
Cosmic Eagle 今宵の虎徹は血に飢えている Join Date: Jan 2009	14 seems to be much easier...until some signs force you to bomb. Don't like bombing... Anyway, still can't beat the fun that was Youmu in 13....gods that anti-anything slash...so fun to use __________________

2013-08-16, 17:13	Link #348
erneiz_hyde 18782+18782=37564 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: InterWebs	How the hell do you guys get past that mirroring boss? It's enough that I still stumble upon bullets with the normal set, took me a long time to get used to the feel, at which point all my lives are gone Man, not playing Touhou for a couple of years really damages your sense in playing the game. Even now I still haven't 1cc th13. __________________

2013-08-16, 17:24	Link #349
Duo Maxwell A Proud Lolicon Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: In front of my computer Age: 37	When in doubt, bomb. That being said, I need to force my brain to forget all about muscle memory try to plan how I gotta move. Gotta say I love this game, from the bosses to the music and the gameplay. TD didn't really hit me with its music aside from Rigid Paradise. DDC manages to make me love all the characters with their design and theme (still screw Seija with her control flipping bullshit), especially Sukuna and Raiko. Another funny and interesting thing, Raiko's magic apparently obtained from the Taiko no Tatsujin games . __________________

2013-08-15, 19:38	Link #343
DaBackpack Blick Winkel Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Gobbled up by Promathia	There's a lot of bomb pieces on level 1

2013-08-16, 07:31	Link #347
Nofear3838 Hainiryuun Join Date: Apr 2010 Age: 33	Well, there are already videos up of people No miss - No bombing Lunatic for every stage (with the exception of 4A, since it's not accessible to anyone atm), so a perfect game is certainly possible. Just took a couple days for people to find the safe spots to cheese the spells, lol

2013-08-20, 21:50	Link #350
Nofear3838 Hainiryuun Join Date: Apr 2010 Age: 33	My biggest complaint is that the Raiko's theme doesn't really feel like an Extra Stage theme.

2013-08-21, 10:56	Link #352
Feng Lengshun Old Wine Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: In my Body	Though I do like the design of the extra boss. I so want to bang her. What? She's a drum! Get your mind out of the gutter! __________________ *A Really* Extensive Guide on Making a Story, OCs, and Characterizations.**

2013-09-07, 08:22	Link #354
Cosmic Eagle 今宵の虎徹は血に飢えている Join Date: Jan 2009	12 is definitely messier by far... __________________

2013-09-07, 10:25	Link #355
Feng Lengshun Old Wine Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: In my Body	I thought that that's because of the rather unconventional bullets and hitboxes, which made people used with the previous ones got surprised. I still think that SA is the hardest, followed by vanilla EoSD (if we include the extras of both into equation). __________________ *A Really* Extensive Guide on Making a Story, OCs, and Characterizations.**

2013-09-07, 12:21	Link #356
Cosmic Eagle 今宵の虎徹は血に飢えている Join Date: Jan 2009	No, 12 generally is more...disorganized in pattern. The stages feel like a mass of stuff just being hurled at your face __________________

2013-09-07, 20:17	Link #357
Feng Lengshun Old Wine Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: In my Body	Which people aren't used to. I can handle it just fine because I'm not used to the previous one, so I'm not surprised at all. __________________ *A Really* Extensive Guide on Making a Story, OCs, and Characterizations.**

2013-09-08, 09:30	Link #358
Kimidori The Opened Ultimate Gate Join Date: Dec 2011 Age: 29	is there any doujin retelling the story of the main game like the fan anime Memories of Phantasm? __________________

2013-09-08, 10:34	Link #359
Feng Lengshun Old Wine Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: In my Body	There are a few but the one that comes to memory fastest is this: http://danbooru.donmai.us/pools/2476 (Site is NSFW due to Ads) It's titled A Certain Eastern Urban Fantasy by Amano Chiharu, and it is a retelling of the main game story in an AU setting similar to Toaru series. It's awesome, and it has a damn hot Izayoi Sakuya. I especially like the Storyteller!Patchouli and the 'Love-Machine' Marisa's battle. __________________ *A Really* Extensive Guide on Making a Story, OCs, and Characterizations.**

2013-09-13, 11:48	Link #360
Kimidori The Opened Ultimate Gate Join Date: Dec 2011 Age: 29	that feel when you confidently face Okuu with 7 lives only to see them all get crushed... ...... __________________