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blackwhite67 · 2013-06-24, 20:15

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Originally Posted by bludvein

This.

Im getting kinda annoyed at people who think Tatsuya is some kind of robot except in regards to Miyuki. He can enjoy activities like working with CADs, hanging out with his friends, etc. He just doesn't show it because of his training and his distrust of other's intentions.

The surgery only keeps him from feeling the stronger emotions. Sort of an enforced stoicism.

To be honest, I think the author doesn't even know what he's doing when he's handling Tatsuya's emotional behavior.

larethian · 2013-06-24, 20:46

^ I don't think so. IIRC, when Tatsuya's emotions well up, they will be converted to mere data (except w.r.t Miyuki). It's somewhat similar to Maya's case.

Ophis · 2013-06-24, 22:55

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Originally Posted by blackwhite67

To be honest, I think the author doesn't even know what he's doing when he's handling Tatsuya's emotional behavior.

I think that the author explained pretty well how the emotions of Tatsuya works. He still have his basics emotions, what he has not is the strong ones. He can like people but not love them, it's simple as that...

nacer666 · 2013-06-24, 23:18

A psycopath.

iheartz · 2013-06-25, 01:27

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Originally Posted by nacer666

A psycopath.

Actually, I think that Tatuya's more of a sociopath than a psychopath.

Link here with the differences between a psychopath and a sociopath:
http://www.diffen.com/difference/Psy...h_vs_Sociopath

Ultragunner · 2013-06-25, 05:54

it's been bothering me for quite a while, but now I know, Takuma remind me of this bastard

Spoiler for :

here is Shippou Takuma with Tatsuya

Spoiler for :

I think this has been noted long ago but I just can't help it now

P.S: damn, dunno about you guys but Tats keep getting more and more handsome

haha

whitecloud · 2013-06-25, 06:08

thank goodness there is no sakura look alike right?

Flere821 · 2013-06-25, 16:33

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Originally Posted by Ultragunner

it's been bothering me for quite a while, but now I know, Takuma remind me of this bastard

Spoiler for :

here is Shippou Takuma with Tatsuya

*snip*

I think this has been noted long ago but I just can't help it now

P.S: damn, dunno about you guys but Tats keep getting more and more handsome

haha

It's been noted in Chinese forums:

Spoiler for details:

Flere821 · 2013-06-25, 18:41

Went browsing Chinese translation archives, and I've found a new WEB short story that I don't think have been mentioned in this thread: 'Beauty and the Beast'.

Spoiler for Brief Summary:

-Centred around Leo, in the night after the Christmas Eve party he spent with Tatsuya and others. Leo bumped into a attractive girl, and he saved her from some thugs. He then got dragged into bodyguard/boyfriend duty, spending some time with the girl (named Yuki, the kanji used being 'Twilight Princess'. Her real name, Yuuhi, uses the same kanji). The thugs came back after Leo and the girl many more time during the night, and since this was after the Yokohama Incident Leo have killed people before and so hired thugs aren't much of a problem for him.

Yuki turned out to be a 3rd generation descendant of the 'Moon' series of experimented magicians, test-tube babies, though scientists back then focused too much on giving them good looks and ended up stunting the growth of magical capabilities. ('Moon' series means 'Lunar magic', mental manipulation like Lina mentioned at the end of the Vampire arc climax. in this SS telepathy and hypnotizing thugs into feeling no pain and berserking have been shown). The failures of this venture only had good looks and next-to-nothing magical capability, so they're sold to the entertainment industry (with all the unsavoury connotations involved, I'll skip the details because A: it's distasteful and B: probably against AS forum rules to speak of them); Yuki was a idol hiding behind a Vocaloid-esque CG form, though dedicated fans can tell who she is by body movement.

Interesting tidbits in this story:
-Leo's family trait, 'Burg Folge', has a side effect of efficiently using all energy gained from eating; he could eat a entire cake and not get fat. The narration went out of its way to state it's a skill envied by all women

Another side effect is higher body heat, so he doesn't get cold in winter.

-Leo's family used to be Yakuza, though this stopped 2 generations back when Leo's grandfather married into the family and they went legit. Though Yuki silently snarked they're still pretty much the same, in the bodyguard and property management business.

-Leo's opinion is that Tatsuya would look more menacing, like a Yakuza, than he does if in the proper clothes

-Yuki's 'brother' of sorts, Akira (real name Asahi, though both names uses the kanji '旭'), got rescued by Leo as well (not blood related to Yuki, but still a 'Moon' clan descendant). When those two are leaving Yuki joked the next time they meet Leo she'll finally be taking his virginity; Leo and Yuki were interrupted before they could get started because thugs broke right in into their hotel room, but also because Leo personally dislikes others making choices for him without his input and shot down Yuki's attempts for seduction.

Leo saw Yuuhi and Asahi's antics, and when Yuki commented Asahi has a chance with her after all even if he's like a brother to her Leo subconsciously thought about Miyuki and Tatsuya. Leo wanted to comment about Yuuhi and Asahi's situation, but then subconsciously froze up like he was going to be blasted by a Ice Meteor (ie, he wanted to speak out about how he knew siblings that made this fine, and subconsciously felt Miyuki would blast him for speaking that way about them); Leo have spent too much time with the Shiba siblings, thinking there's nothing wrong with brother-sister romance

-When Yuuhi and Asahi finally left, holding their hands, Leo didn't feel jealous at all. Two possible interpretations:
A) Yuuhi is very attractive, but Miyuki is still better and Leo's pretty much immune to pretty faces after spending so much time with Tatsuya's sister (this reasoning was already mentioned in-story).
or B), Leo already have someone else in his heart. Rejoice, Leo+Erika shippers, for you have one more piece of ammunition for your cause

blackwhite67 · 2013-06-25, 18:56

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Originally Posted by Flere821

Went browsing Chinese translation archives, and I've found a new WEB short story that I don't think have been mentioned in this thread: 'Beauty and the Beast'.

Spoiler for Brief Summary:

-Centred around Leo, in the night after the Christmas Eve party he spent with Tatsuya and others. Leo bumped into a attractive girl, and he saved her from some thugs. He then got dragged into bodyguard/boyfriend duty, spending some time with the girl (named Yuki, the kanji used being 'Twilight Princess'. Her real name, Yuuhi, uses the same kanji). The thugs came back after Leo and the girl many more time during the night, and since this was after the Yokohama Incident Leo have killed people before and so hired thugs aren't much of a problem for him.

Yuki turned out to be a 3rd generation descendant of the 'Moon' series of experimented magicians, test-tube babies, though scientists back then focused too much on giving them good looks and ended up stunting the growth of magical capabilities. ('Moon' series means 'Lunar magic', mental manipulation like Lina mentioned at the end of the Vampire arc climax. in this SS telepathy and hypnotizing thugs into feeling no pain and berserking have been shown). The failures of this venture only had good looks and next-to-nothing magical capability, so they're sold to the entertainment industry (with all the unsavoury connotations involved, I'll skip the details because A: it's distasteful and B: probably against AS forum rules to speak of them); Yuki was a idol hiding behind a Vocaloid-esque CG form, though dedicated fans can tell who she is by body movement.

Interesting tidbits in this story:
-Leo's family trait, 'Burg Folge', has a side effect of efficiently using all energy gained from eating; he could eat a entire cake and not get fat. The narration went out of its way to state it's a skill envied by all women

Another side effect is higher body heat, so he doesn't get cold in winter.

-Leo's family used to be Yakuza, though this stopped 2 generations back when Leo's grandfather married into the family and they went legit. Though Yuki silently snarked they're still pretty much the same, in the bodyguard and property management business.

-Leo's opinion is that Tatsuya would look more menacing, like a Yakuza, than he does if in the proper clothes

-Yuki's 'brother' of sorts, Akira (real name Asahi, though both names uses the kanji '旭'), got rescued by Leo as well (not blood related to Yuki, but still a 'Moon' clan descendant). When those two are leaving Yuki joked the next time they meet Leo she'll finally be taking his virginity; Leo and Yuki were interrupted before they could get started because thugs broke right in into their hotel room, but also because Leo personally dislikes others making choices for him without his input and shot down Yuki's attempts for seduction.

Leo saw Yuuhi and Asahi's antics, and when Yuki commented Asahi has a chance with her after all even if he's like a brother to her Leo subconsciously thought about Miyuki and Tatsuya. Leo wanted to comment about Yuuhi and Asahi's situation, but then subconsciously froze up like he was going to be blasted by a Ice Meteor (ie, he wanted to speak out about how he knew siblings that made this fine, and subconsciously felt Miyuki would blast him for speaking that way about them); Leo have spent too much time with the Shiba siblings, thinking there's nothing wrong with brother-sister romance

-When Yuuhi and Asahi finally left, holding their hands, Leo didn't feel jealous at all. Two possible interpretations:
A) Yuuhi is very attractive, but Miyuki is still better and Leo's pretty much immune to pretty faces after spending so much time with Tatsuya's sister (this reasoning was already mentioned in-story).
or B), Leo already have someone else in his heart. Rejoice, Leo+Erika shippers, for you have one more piece of ammunition for your cause

WOW and thanks I think I'll need every bullet I can get. This is...just the sort of development for Leo that this series has been lacking. That tidbit about his metabolism was particularly interesting.

Why were they focused on good looks to begin with and why does this sound suspiciously like the origins of the Yotsuba? Also, were these thugs related to her work or something? They were pretty persistent breaking into their hotel room and all.

larethian · 2013-06-25, 21:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flere821

Went browsing Chinese translation archives, and I've found a new WEB short story that I don't think have been mentioned in this thread: 'Beauty and the Beast'.

Spoiler for Brief Summary:

-Centred around Leo, in the night after the Christmas Eve party he spent with Tatsuya and others. Leo bumped into a attractive girl, and he saved her from some thugs. He then got dragged into bodyguard/boyfriend duty, spending some time with the girl (named Yuki, the kanji used being 'Twilight Princess'. Her real name, Yuuhi, uses the same kanji). The thugs came back after Leo and the girl many more time during the night, and since this was after the Yokohama Incident Leo have killed people before and so hired thugs aren't much of a problem for him.

Yuki turned out to be a 3rd generation descendant of the 'Moon' series of experimented magicians, test-tube babies, though scientists back then focused too much on giving them good looks and ended up stunting the growth of magical capabilities. ('Moon' series means 'Lunar magic', mental manipulation like Lina mentioned at the end of the Vampire arc climax. in this SS telepathy and hypnotizing thugs into feeling no pain and berserking have been shown). The failures of this venture only had good looks and next-to-nothing magical capability, so they're sold to the entertainment industry (with all the unsavoury connotations involved, I'll skip the details because A: it's distasteful and B: probably against AS forum rules to speak of them); Yuki was a idol hiding behind a Vocaloid-esque CG form, though dedicated fans can tell who she is by body movement.

Interesting tidbits in this story:
-Leo's family trait, 'Burg Folge', has a side effect of efficiently using all energy gained from eating; he could eat a entire cake and not get fat. The narration went out of its way to state it's a skill envied by all women

Another side effect is higher body heat, so he doesn't get cold in winter.

-Leo's family used to be Yakuza, though this stopped 2 generations back when Leo's grandfather married into the family and they went legit. Though Yuki silently snarked they're still pretty much the same, in the bodyguard and property management business.

-Leo's opinion is that Tatsuya would look more menacing, like a Yakuza, than he does if in the proper clothes

-Yuki's 'brother' of sorts, Akira (real name Asahi, though both names uses the kanji '旭'), got rescued by Leo as well (not blood related to Yuki, but still a 'Moon' clan descendant). When those two are leaving Yuki joked the next time they meet Leo she'll finally be taking his virginity; Leo and Yuki were interrupted before they could get started because thugs broke right in into their hotel room, but also because Leo personally dislikes others making choices for him without his input and shot down Yuki's attempts for seduction.

Leo saw Yuuhi and Asahi's antics, and when Yuki commented Asahi has a chance with her after all even if he's like a brother to her Leo subconsciously thought about Miyuki and Tatsuya. Leo wanted to comment about Yuuhi and Asahi's situation, but then subconsciously froze up like he was going to be blasted by a Ice Meteor (ie, he wanted to speak out about how he knew siblings that made this fine, and subconsciously felt Miyuki would blast him for speaking that way about them); Leo have spent too much time with the Shiba siblings, thinking there's nothing wrong with brother-sister romance

-When Yuuhi and Asahi finally left, holding their hands, Leo didn't feel jealous at all. Two possible interpretations:
A) Yuuhi is very attractive, but Miyuki is still better and Leo's pretty much immune to pretty faces after spending so much time with Tatsuya's sister (this reasoning was already mentioned in-story).
or B), Leo already have someone else in his heart. Rejoice, Leo+Erika shippers, for you have one more piece of ammunition for your cause

Interestingly, Leo is also the 3rd generation descendant of genetically modified magicians (ie. his grandfather was one), which makes them kind of compatible eh?

Seems like a funny chapter, and we all know both Leo and Erika have the hots for each other but refuse to admit it.

Flere821 · 2013-06-25, 22:34

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Originally Posted by blackwhite67

Why were they focused on good looks to begin with and why does this sound suspiciously like the origins of the Yotsuba? Also, were these thugs related to her work or something? They were pretty persistent breaking into their hotel room and all.

Mods, edit this post please if it's too explicit for AS forum:

Spoiler for NSFW context:

As for the Yotsuba thing, we know for sure they're from the LNs they're from the 'Fourth' Research Facility. Before the Numbers Facilities got created however there was the 'Elements' Facilities (elements of magic, eg fire, water, and so on; Honoka was from one such lineage, 'Light'), and the Moon one sounds like one of these. I'm inclined to believe the Yotsuba isn't from the 'Moon' facilities however, considering how the SS explicitly said this particular project was a bust. It's more likely IMO that the Fourth RF learned from the Moon's mistake.

blackwhite67 · 2013-06-25, 22:57

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Originally Posted by Flere821

Mods, edit this post please if it's too explicit for AS forum:

Spoiler for NSFW context:

As for the Yotsuba thing, we know for sure they're from the LNs they're from the 'Fourth' Research Facility. Before the Numbers Facilities got created however there was the 'Elements' Facilities (elements of magic, eg fire, water, and so on; Honoka was from one such lineage, 'Light'), and the Moon one sounds like one of these. I'm inclined to believe the Yotsuba isn't from the 'Moon' facilities however, considering how the SS explicitly said this particular project was a bust. It's more likely IMO that the Fourth RF learned from the Moon's mistake.

So how was the issue of the thugs resolved? How did they make the company give up? By the way, does that happen in real life or is that a futuristic thing?

hakazee · 2013-06-25, 23:04

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Originally Posted by blackwhite67

does that happen in real life or is that a futuristic thing?

which one ? the Idol things ?
yes, that happens in real life.

same question appear when i read " Duction Man "manga.
from there then I know the dark side of " Idol Bussiness "

not only happen in japan, it's also happens in Korea. there are korean actress that commits suicide because she was forced to do that.

nacer666 · 2013-06-25, 23:04

Real life is shittier than that.

Flere821 · 2013-06-26, 02:32

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Originally Posted by blackwhite67

How did they make the company give up?

Spoiler for Events:

Grave_digger · 2013-06-26, 02:34

i already know that since middle school, that's why i never worship or liked any idol.i also never read manga when the heroine is idol.

malason13 · 2013-06-26, 03:58

Sadly that is the truth about Idols.

rickiminato · 2013-06-26, 12:34

in that novel started the arc of the sophomere year for tatsuya and miyuki?
where i find the web novels?

blackwhite67 · 2013-06-26, 13:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by hakazee

which one ? the Idol things ?
yes, that happens in real life.

same question appear when i read " Duction Man "manga.
from there then I know the dark side of " Idol Bussiness "

not only happen in japan, it's also happens in Korea. there are korean actress that commits suicide because she was forced to do that.

Yeah. Thanks.

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