2012-12-08, 13:52 | Link #3481 | |
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Seems someone thinks this comment deserves bad rep, nothing is more uncomfortable than the truth. Last edited by mangamuscle; 2012-12-08 at 22:41. |
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2012-12-08, 14:29 | Link #3482 | |
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GOP - Extreme Right Dems - Center Green - Extreme Left Libertarian - out there somewhere.
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2012-12-08, 21:42 | Link #3483 | |
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Eventually the Democratic Party will fracture into smaller groups.
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2012-12-08, 22:01 | Link #3484 | |
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In the 20th century my country had for 70 years a one party system and it was dubbed "The perfect dictatorsoft" (a word game, in spanish dictatorship ends in dura which means hard |
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2012-12-08, 22:07 | Link #3485 |
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Only work if the people are willing to vote only for one party. And even then, there will still need to be more than one person running.
And, at least for President, there are term limits. In California, the new rules actually allow this to happen. The election goes for the two candidates that got the most votes during the primaries. Even if both are from the same party.
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2012-12-08, 23:20 | Link #3486 | |
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And it's not like they wouldn't hang around even if all they have left are the Crazies. If Democrats grow too big, the Blue Dogs would just split off and form a new Republican party. That's how it rolls.
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2012-12-08, 23:51 | Link #3487 | |
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Methinks a list with them would go more like this. Consitution Party - Extreme Right GOP - Right Libertarians - Center-Right Independents - Center Dems - Left Green - Extreme Left What say you Xellos?
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2012-12-09, 00:07 | Link #3488 | |
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By definition, the independents are independent and do not belong to a party (beyond those smart enough to join a party so they can vote in primaries, since there's no negative side to being a member of a party).
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2012-12-09, 00:47 | Link #3490 |
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There are no more truly progressive parties with any degree of penetration in office anymore. The Democratic Party has shifted so far right as of late that it's almost indistinguishable from the Republican Party of not-that-long-ago.
It would be far better if the GOP and Democrats would stop pretending to be different and simply merge to form one party. They even have a catchy name, already made for themselves--the One Percent Party!
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2012-12-09, 00:51 | Link #3491 |
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Odd. I keep getting told they are far left. But I think that it is from conservatives that tend to look at social issues and/or consider things like ObamaCare as infringments on the Constitution and Freedom.
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The independents could very well form their own party as it stands now. There is already an attempt at making them another party. It's called the Independent Voters of America. Quote:
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The paleo-Progressives are long gone. What passes for progressive today is basically corporate-socialism/corporatism. The Republicans and Democrats are akin to the old Mensheviks and Bolsheviks. Both were just different wings of the same political party.
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2012-12-09, 03:16 | Link #3493 | |
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Is Britain Far Left? Is Germany Far Left? Is Israel Far Left? If Everyone Else is Far Left, then aren't they the real centre?
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2012-12-09, 05:10 | Link #3495 |
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I've been saying this since the 80s ... I haven't moved very much at all. Its the Label Graph (left-right) that is rubber banding to the right. I can kind of understand how the young might not realize that (particularly young neo-cons) but the ones my age are quite certainly brain-dead if they pretend there hasn't been the screaming sound of the axis hurtling to infinity towards the right.
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2012-12-09, 09:19 | Link #3496 | |
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2012-12-09, 09:29 | Link #3497 | ||
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2012-12-09, 09:58 | Link #3498 |
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If that is the case they have not been doing it quite irrelevantly. Here in Mexico (like in Europe) the tiny political parties do have seats in one or both houses of the legislative branch, so they are part of the national political dynamic. In the USA outside the two big political parties it is "much ado about nothing", those tiny parties have never influenced the laws of the land and there is no reason to think they ever will.
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2012-12-09, 13:41 | Link #3499 | |
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2012-12-09, 14:04 | Link #3500 | |
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The answer, for the people who don't want to watch or don't like Maddow, is that yes, both parties have shifted further right, especially Republicans.
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