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Even, "if" he is alive, those persons arenb't aware of it. |
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2008-09-30, 16:29 | Link #3084 |
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Why am I noticing that most of the people who say he is alive are CluClus? Is this just a coincidence or? Do people want him alive for the sake of the ship, to hell with his characterization? I can't help but feel having him be alive ruins his character, UNLESS he didn't know about the code. That's the only acceptable scenario to me. That he genuinely thought he was going to die and was willing to sacrifice himself, but ended up living instead. His behavior during his death scene certainly seems to point to him not knowing about the immortality at all.
To me the evidence still weighs heavily in favor of him being dead though. It's more like 99% chance he's dead and 1% chance he is alive. I reject the "Lelouch took C.C.'s code theory" completely. That would leave him facing C.C.'s lonely fate, which is rather awful imho. If he is alive it better be as an immortal with C.C. still as an immortal as well. That way eternity won't be quite so lonely.
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2008-09-30, 16:31 | Link #3085 |
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Errr... I just read that it is revealed in the manga that Lelouch indeed survived.
Trouble is, I don't know if the source is reliable and I don't have access to the manga. Damn, that's frustrating. I didn't really care yesterday, but after hearing something like that... I'm beyond curious. Edit: But now that I think about it... when did the manga catch up with the anime? Did I miss something, or are people having fun spreading rumors? Edit2: Oh my... I should just forget about it for now. xD
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2008-09-30, 19:09 | Link #3088 | |
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2008-09-30, 19:22 | Link #3089 | |
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Shipping reasons aside, equating Lelouch to a martyr is laughably out of character for me, he has never appeared to me as someone who would repent for his crimes through death. Yes, he feels regret, but he has never been one to accept death as the only answer (as seen with his reaction towards CC's "supposed" wish). As shown all through out the series, he's always seen himself as an actor, and him staging and faking his own death feels consistent to his character. Exactly how that happened though has been pointed out for the hundredth time, whilst some of those points may be a bit wonky (what with the mystery of geass and the gods haven't really been tackled in depth), overall I can't help but feel he's alive. |
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2008-09-30, 19:40 | Link #3090 | ||
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I think it's not clear, and I don't see him as a martyr. Well, same as what kafka said. But also TBH, I am shocked because in animedia, the sunrise staff said that the contract between him and c.c. was still valid and that c.c. was waiting that lelouch finishes what he has to do. Quote:
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2008-09-30, 20:52 | Link #3091 |
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It's not about killing himself in order to repent. It's about sacrificing himself for the sake of tomorrow. Lelouch is no longer just thinking about himself or Nunnally. He finally is seeing the bigger picture and recognizing what he has to do. And yes, I actually do think the episodes from 18 and on have been leading up to this and so it's not out of character at all. I mean, you do remember how he was basically willing to lock himself up with Charles in the world of C forever? I call that a sacrifice. So Zero Requiem isn't something exactly out of the blue for him. He was willing to do it then (though for different reasons) and obviously he was willing to do it with ZR.
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2008-09-30, 22:05 | Link #3093 |
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There is only one fact that supports he is dead. Suzaku running the blade into him.
There are more than one clues that supports that he is alive. It doesn't matter, whether he lives or not, I like to know what is NEXT? OAV? Movie? |
2008-09-30, 22:06 | Link #3094 | |
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What you said made a lil sense because Lelouch was mentioning about "Geass being people's wishes".. Lelouch wished for a peaceful world for Nunnally. C.C praying in the church to wish that Lelouch will survive. Hmmm and in the end C.C realize that "geass bringing solitude is incorrect". SHE could imply that Geass grants people's wishes? *not making any sense* But yeah if he's dead. I can accept it too. Because seeing it this way it's his wish to be dead for a peaceful world for his sister and to atone for his sins and those evidence of his eyebags and all. But something tells me he's alive in my heart(C.C prayed for him with her Geass?). Could be my heart playing tricks on me.
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2008-09-30, 22:27 | Link #3095 | |
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2008-09-30, 22:31 | Link #3096 | |
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2008-09-30, 22:36 | Link #3097 | |
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The only thing we know is that the gods in code geass can grant wish "or" can be geassed. And I still think that what lelouch asked to them is what saved him in the end :O |
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2008-10-01, 00:33 | Link #3098 | |
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2008-10-01, 04:29 | Link #3099 |
All Hail Lelouch!
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Anyone think its funny that what Lelouch said to Kallen(even if it was just to absolve her concious) about being the one to "hold the world in his hand" in EP 25 of S1 came true?
I think it goes to show you how awesome he is that any off the hand remark he makes comes true. Whats even more awesome is that even though he was the ruler of the world he gave it it up along with his own life for the sake of everyone elses happiness. Honestly how often in anime do you see someone making that sort of sacrifice for everyones sake or giving up that sort of power? Lelouch you were just to damn awesome and manly for this show. Sleep well oh true defender of justice. |
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