BayTSP using crawlers in order to obtain ip's from torrents and to send DMCA....

[Quarkboy]

Originally Posted by Slice of Life

I admit I don't know how the BT protocol works in detail so feel free to correct me if I got something fundamentally wrong. But obviously the tracker needs to know your true IP otherwise it can't direct peers to you. So if everybody connects to the tracker via Tor the system breaks down, doesn't it. Furthermore, the tracker knowing your IP isn't the problem as long as it can be trusted. The peers are a different problem. Because everybody can join the party and make rapid fire requests for peers.

On the other hand, I'm quite sure Tor can in principle be used for the packet exchange too although exist nodes block the standard ports per default AFAIK. Seiji is right of course that in that case the Tor infrastructure would break down in no time.

What we need in the end are much more Tor nodes. If everybody would be running one ... but I'm dreaming.

Yeah, I suspect that if you used Tor to connect to the Tracker no peers would connect to you. It would be like if you didn't have your port forwarding set up correctly, so you would only be able to initiate OUTGOING connections.

Also it's not completely safe since if you happened to connect directly with the spy computer they'd find out your true IP address.

(and yes, if everyone on the tracker used tor the torrent would fail completely, but I don't think that'll really be an issue).

[Wizel603]

I received my BayTSP email within the last few days. It was for a unlicensed Aniplex series currently listed on animesuki, but it wasn't Sekirei nor something from Chihiro for that matter. My suspicions are that it has nothing to do with animesuki or any fansub group but rather that there are a handful of trackers that are being watched closely by BayTSP's automated operation.
Also, it isn't a DMCA notice, but that's probably because their client Aniplex isn't in the USA and so the DMCA possibly can't be invoked.

In the end it means nothing. Aniplex paid BayTSP to send scary but harmless emails to ISPs for any IP returned by a tracker where the torrent filename matched something in a list of titles Aniplex provided.

Hard to say but this might end up causing more fan backlash for Aniplex than MediaWorks received for their antics.

[EternalNite]

If anyone heard of the ODEX killing in Singapore previously, ODEX uses BayTSP to track the downloaders also.

[bayoab]

Originally Posted by Wizel603

Also, it isn't a DMCA notice, but that's probably because their client Aniplex isn't in the USA and so the DMCA possibly can't be invoked.

Aniplex has a US division, Aniplex USA. The site was aniplexusa.com but that redirects to Sony (their parent) now. Also, only the receiver needs to be in the US for the DMCA. The sender does not need to be in the US as long as they are in one of the member countries of one of the international copyright agreements.

[Quarkboy]

Originally Posted by Wizel603

In the end it means nothing. Aniplex paid BayTSP to send scary but harmless emails to ISPs for any IP returned by a tracker where the torrent filename matched something in a list of titles Aniplex provided.

Hard to say but this might end up causing more fan backlash for Aniplex than MediaWorks received for their antics.

It's only harmless if you trust your ISP to ignore them. Some ISPs will use it as an excuse to terminate your service, especially if you take up more bandwidth than they'd like you to.

[4tw]

Originally Posted by Wizel603

I received my BayTSP email within the last few days. It was for a unlicensed Aniplex series currently listed on animesuki, but it wasn't Sekirei nor something from Chihiro for that matter. My suspicions are that it has nothing to do with animesuki or any fansub group but rather that there are a handful of trackers that are being watched closely by BayTSP's automated operation.
Also, it isn't a DMCA notice, but that's probably because their client Aniplex isn't in the USA and so the DMCA possibly can't be invoked.

In the end it means nothing. Aniplex paid BayTSP to send scary but harmless emails to ISPs for any IP returned by a tracker where the torrent filename matched something in a list of titles Aniplex provided.

Hard to say but this might end up causing more fan backlash for Aniplex than MediaWorks received for their antics.

What series was it?

[FooSoft]

Why don't we just throw up CAPTCHA that needs to be passed before you can get in on a torrent? Seems like an easy solution that would solve the crawler problem nicely.

[Flaffer]

I received a DMCA notification from my ISP for sharing Sekirei. More specifically, done by the Chihiro fansub group on the tracker http://tracker.anirena.com:81/announce. Too things stand out: First, the anime is still up and I found no licensing announcements. Second, is "Anirena" sharing IP information?

[Jigsy]

I think it's only licensed in Japan, and the only way I'd assume they'd get your ip is by connecting to trackers to "download" the file.

[orion]

There's a thread talking about this here.

[Flaffer]

I received a DMCA notice from my ISP for Chihiro's Sekirei using the anirena tracker. And my ISP is using the notice to put me on double-secret probation; allegedly, if I get another one they are tossing me. Since its cable that will suck as they are a monopoly.....

DMCA can piss off!

[Flaffer]

Umm, is it me, or is peer guardian like PortSentry? And if so, who don't you have a firewall...get a firewall. Now.

[4tw]

What episode did they get you for?

[Saleh]

Originally Posted by 4tw

What series was it?

You could stay away from series produced or licensed by aniplex since BayTSP might send DMCA for most aniplex series if Aniplex wants to continue its actions. DMCA reports takes time to surface so you may see more people with DMCA in a week or two.

btw is BayTSP sending it globally or in a single country this time?

[4tw]

Yes indeed, but I was just curious as to what series & group he downloaded that got him that notice.

[orion]

Originally Posted by 4tw

Yes indeed, but I was just curious as to what series & group he downloaded that got him that notice.

Series is Sekirei and the group is Chihiro.

[4tw]

Originally Posted by orion

Series is Sekirei and the group is Chihiro.

I was quoted from my reply to Wizel603. So, I was actually asking what series/group that he got. Sorry for the miscommunication.

[houkoholic]

Originally Posted by Jigsy

I think it's only licensed in Japan, and the only way I'd assume they'd get your ip is by connecting to trackers to "download" the file.

Aniplex funded the production of Sekirei, therefore they own the license to the entire show *everywhere in the world*. It's not just Japan.

[Jigsy]

Out of interest, has anyone in the UK been warned? Or is this only applying to the Americans. (As of yet.)

[Saleh]

Originally Posted by Jigsy

Out of interest, has anyone in the UK been warned? Or is this only applying to the Americans. (As of yet.)

For now, it would be better to assume that BayTSP had sent DMCA internationally and be a bit cautious (Atleast it was also send to Canada if flareknight got a DMCA, as zka had pointed out earlier).