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Old 2008-08-15, 13:52   Link #61
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Here's a plug from an old school fansubber.

If you are worried about C&Ds and DMCAs, just get your butt on irc to get the files. You won't have any pesky problems with uploading pieces of pirated stuff to others like bit torrent and it's a hell of a lot better quality than streams! Plus you might, I dunno, make a friend or too online *gasp*

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Old 2008-08-15, 16:00   Link #62
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I would give Perfect Dark less than a year until it has been cracked since it suffers from all of the same technical vulnerabilities as Tor and Share: Weakest link (node lists are public), predictable transfer route (find known source/destinations easily), etc. Adding more encryption and more in between nodes isn't going to make things any safer. It just slows the good guys down.
This sounds as if Tor has already been "cracked". The communication within Tor is safe as far as we know. Of course, the exit nodes are heavily monitored. That they can still be reached and run(?) from inside China e.g. is because the services are more interested in who uses Tor than in what is communicated. Of course "adding more and more encryption" doesn't make things any safer (at least once a resonable long key is used) because the standard encryption methods are safe.

(Conspiracy theoretical caveat: Of course, you can never rule out that the NSA and their buddies can crack them and are able to keep that secret, in which case they can also monitor Tor. But then they would hardly expose that secret you get the people who illegally download cartoons.)

As for Perfect Dark, as it is closed source we don't know what it really does. I don't know if at least the encryption methods are known. I wouldn't be surprised if somebody tried to reinvent the wheel again and the encryption can actually be cracked in no time. And using Windows as basis is a bit like putting a heavy lock on a door made of paper.
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Old 2008-08-16, 08:02   Link #63
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I'm curious, but do you have any evidence that BayTSP is stupid enough not to mask their IP addresses when connecting to your tracker?

What's to prevent them from connecting through the Tor network, or even simply of buying a bunch of Virtual private servers around the country and connecting from there outside of their local network?

I don't see why peerguardian provides any measure of safety at all unless BayTSP is filled with a bunch of technical neophytes (and I actually think they do know what they are doing, unfortunately).
Actually you have to remember that all the anti-piracy groups can obtain the block-lists (even those from peer guardian which are the same) so they can find out which of their IP addresses are being blocked by the lists and change them (remember they have a whole load of IP addresses to chose from and then the discarded IP addresses could end up in the hands of some innocent person who is blocked just for being accused of working for the anti-piracy groups).

If that doesn't prove how useless peer guardian is then I might have to call in the resident expert from demonoid to prove my point.
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Old 2008-08-17, 12:18   Link #64
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For those of you who might be interested I am a UK resident and I have just received a "Notice of Unauthorized Use of Aniplex Property" for "[AoShen] Tetsuwan Birdy Decode 05 HQ.avi".

It was sent by BayTSP (address is in California) on behalf of Aniplex (address is in Los Gatos).

The torrents are still listed on animesuki so I can only assume it has not yet been licensed in the US - people might want to think twice before downloading episodes of this series.
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Old 2008-08-17, 13:11   Link #65
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What about if you use the Tor network to connect to the tracker?

I presume that would keep anyone from grabbing your IP address from a scrape.


I say we just move all fansub distro to perfect dark .
Except Perfect Dark is just another Japanese POS darknet application; if there's going to be an alternative, it'll have to be open source and portable across platforms.
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Old 2008-08-17, 13:47   Link #66
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Aniplex/BayTSP torpedoes Shinsen-Subs, taking down Jigoku Shoujo Futakomori.

http://forum.shinsen-subs.org/showpo...73&postcount=1
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Old 2008-08-17, 17:16   Link #67
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For those of you who might be interested I am a UK resident and I have just received a "Notice of Unauthorized Use of Aniplex Property" for "[AoShen] Tetsuwan Birdy Decode 05 HQ.avi".

It was sent by BayTSP (address is in California) on behalf of Aniplex (address is in Los Gatos).

The torrents are still listed on animesuki so I can only assume it has not yet been licensed in the US - people might want to think twice before downloading episodes of this series.
They could at least warn us with an announcement first.
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Old 2008-08-17, 17:28   Link #68
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For those of you who might be interested I am a UK resident and I have just received a "Notice of Unauthorized Use of Aniplex Property" for "[AoShen] Tetsuwan Birdy Decode 05 HQ.avi".

It was sent by BayTSP (address is in California) on behalf of Aniplex (address is in Los Gatos).

The torrents are still listed on animesuki so I can only assume it has not yet been licensed in the US - people might want to think twice before downloading episodes of this series.
Which ISP are you with? (I assume your ISP is the one that forwarded the notice onto you, right?).
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Old 2008-08-18, 13:05   Link #69
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Which ISP are you with? (I assume your ISP is the one that forwarded the notice onto you, right?).
Yes, my ISP - Demon Internet - forwarded the email on to me.
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Old 2008-08-18, 16:01   Link #70
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Which day did you download and which day did you receive the email?
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Old 2008-08-19, 12:30   Link #71
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They sent the email on the same day they claim to have detected the infringement. It took about a day and a half to work its way through their and my ISPs systems/employees.
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Old 2008-08-20, 04:01   Link #72
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Hmmm maybe I should download the torrents you guys are talking about ... but it would not change anything, I would never ever get a notification
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Old 2008-08-21, 12:33   Link #73
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They sent the email on the same day they claim to have detected the infringement. It took about a day and a half to work its way through their and my ISPs systems/employees.
You getting fined or anything? Or was it just a generic warning?
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Old 2008-08-21, 14:02   Link #74
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As of this moment I've only gotten a generic warning.
The warning was from BayTSP (and states it does not preclude action from aniplex). I filled in BayTSP's online form stating I had complied with the order (and obviously did comply). Hopefully aniplex will not take this any further considering this is a first infringement.
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Old 2008-08-22, 11:40   Link #75
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Question another Uk user who got a generic email warning

Hello,
firstly I got a generic email on the 20th of August as well it was because I downloaded Birdy decode ep 2 from Aoshen on the 17th of August. Apparently they claim I uploaded it for a whole 18 mins between 1:35am and 1:53am and I got the warning for uploading not the downlaoding. I have been downloading anime for everyday for the last 5 years or so and this is the 1st warning I have had this Baytsp bunch should mind thier own business and leave well enough alone this is another witch hunt they try every few years hopefully it will blow itself out.

onto a second point I dont know is this softwre will work or not but I have been using Hide my ip 2008 for the last 3 days now it puts out a fake IP and location when checked the only problem is that is not free but if it works it would be worth the peace of mind if this does not work than can someone let me know so I dont spend money on the licenses
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Old 2008-08-22, 11:53   Link #76
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I didn't know where to ask or where to post. Recently I got a email from them complaining about me downloading anime. Birdy Decode. I was wondering if it was legit. As far as I know and researched, I couldn't find who licensed this anime.

I'll copy and paste the entire email.
------------------------------

Dear ****** ****,

We are writing as a courtesy to let you know that we have received
notification from one or more owners of copyrights claiming that their
work has been transmitted over the Internet from your account without
their permission. Copyright owners may include motion picture studios,
the recording industry or others who produce or distribute legally
protected material. (Please see enclosed notice(s)). We are concerned
that either you or a person with access to your account may be unknowingly
participating in certain file sharing or server-related activities that
led to this complaint.

As you may recall, the Optimum Online Terms of Service posted at
www.optonline.net require compliance with all applicable laws and
specifically prohibits the use of the Optimum Online system for copyright
infringement.

We consider you a valued customer, so we wanted to let you know that if
the copyright holder pursues this claim, or if there are additional
claims, it could lead to legal action against you. We may be required by
law to release private information about you and to suspend, or even
terminate, your service. We want to help you prevent this from happening.

In order to assist you in your future use of our service, we encourage you
to visit www.optonline.net/copyright for tips and guidelines that we hope
will give you all the information you need to avoid further action on this
matter or on other matters.

We regret having to send notices like this, and we do not wish to alarm
you unnecessarily, but we have a responsibility to advise you of any
notices concerning your account.

If you have any questions about our Optimum Online policies, please feel
free to contact us at the Customer Service Center, 631-846-5350. We
appreciate your business, and look forward to providing you with
excellence in broadband service for many years to come.


Regards,
Raymond J. Connolly
Registered Copyright Agent
Cablevision Systems Corporation


[-------Copy of Complaint------]
From: aniplex-no-reply@copyright-compliance.com

Received: 2008-08-14 14:56:50
Subject: Notice ID: 274-116310 Notice of Unauthorized Use of Aniplex
Property



-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Notice ID: 274-116310
Notice Date: 13 Aug 2008 17:45:14 GMT

Optimum Online (Cablevision Systems)

Dear Sir or Madam:

BayTSP, Inc. ("BayTSP") swears under penalty of perjury that Aniplex has
authorized BayTSP to act as its non-exclusive agent for copyright
infringement notification. BayTSP's search of the protocol listed below
has detected infringements of Aniplex's copyright interests on your IP
addresses as detailed in the attached report.

BayTSP has reasonable good faith belief that use of the material in the
manner complained of in the attached report is not authorized by Aniplex,
its agents, or the law. The information provided herein is accurate to
the best of our knowledge. Therefore, this letter is an official
notification to effect removal of the detected infringement listed in the
attached report. The attached documentation specifies the exact location
of the infringement.

We hereby request that you immediately remove or block access to the
infringing material, as specified in the copyright laws, and insure the
user refrains from using or sharing with others unauthorized Aniplex's
materials in the future (see, 17 U.S.C. 512).

Further, we believe that the entire Internet community benefits when
these matters are resolved cooperatively. We urge you to take immediate
action to stop this infringing activity and inform us of the results of
your actions. We appreciate your efforts toward this common goal.

Please respond indicating the actions you have taken to resolve this
matter. The provided link has been assigned to this matter.
link removed for privacy

For email correspondence, please reference the above Notice ID in the
subject line.
link removed for privacy

Nothing in this letter shall serve as a waiver of any rights or remedies
of Aniplex with respect to the alleged infringement, all of which are
expressly reserved. Should you need to contact me, I may be reached at
the following address:

Mark Ishikawa
CEO
BayTSP.com Inc. - as an Authorized Agent of Aniplex
PO Box 1314 - Los Gatos, CA 95031
Phone:: 408-341-2300 fax:: 408-341-2399

*pgp public key is available on the key server at
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Note: The information transmitted in this Notice is intended only for the
person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential
and/or privileged material. Any review, reproduction, retransmission,
dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon,
this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient
is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender
and delete the material from all computers.

This infringement notice contains an XML tag that can be used to automate
the processing of this data. If you would like more information on how to
use this tag please contact BayTSP.

Evidentiary Information:
Notice ID: 116310
Asset: Tetsuwan Birdy
Protocol: BitTorrent
IP Address: **.***.**.**
DNS: ***-********.dyn.optonline.net
File Name: [AoShen] Tetsuwan Birdy Decode 05 HQ.avi
File Size: 246467524
Timestamp: 13 Aug 2008 01:12:48 GMT
Last Seen Date: 13 Aug 2008 01:12:48 GMT
URL: http://denis.stalker.h3q.com/announce
Username (if available):

Evidentiary Information:
Notice ID: 116310
Asset: Tetsuwan Birdy
Protocol: BitTorrent
IP Address: **.***.**.**
DNS: ***-********.dyn.optonline.net
File Name: [AoShen] Tetsuwan Birdy Decode 02.avi
File Size: 215218968
Timestamp: 13 Aug 2008 00:57:25 GMT
Last Seen Date: 13 Aug 2008 00:57:25 GMT
URL: http://tracker.anirena.com:81/announce
Username (if available):

Evidentiary Information:
Notice ID: 116310
Asset: Tetsuwan Birdy
Protocol: BitTorrent
IP Address: **.***.**.**
DNS: ***-********.dyn.optonline.net
File Name: [AoShen] Tetsuwan Birdy Decode 04.avi
File Size: 215347060
Timestamp: 13 Aug 2008 01:32:41 GMT
Last Seen Date: 13 Aug 2008 01:32:41 GMT
URL: http://tracker1.torrentum.pl/announce
Username (if available):

Last edited by NoSanninWa; 2008-10-04 at 03:04.
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Old 2008-08-22, 13:27   Link #77
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Note: The information transmitted in this Notice is intended only for the
person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential
and/or privileged material. Any review, reproduction, retransmission,
dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon,
this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient
is prohibited.


Man, what a pain. This mess has me checking my Comcast email account two or three times a day for one of those notices. And I just DL'd episode 01 of "Birdy" from AoShen. I guess it's a cat and mouse game now as to who gets to be the targets of this latest round of notices.
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Old 2008-08-22, 14:24   Link #78
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I didn't know where to ask or where to post. Recently I got a email from them complaining about me downloading anime. Birdy Decode. I was wondering if it was legit. As far as I know and researched, I couldn't find who licensed this anime.
Read the notice again. BayTSP is acting on behalf of Aniplex (Sony, I believe). Licensing has nothing to do with whether a show is copyrighted or not. Every show is copyrighted in Japan, and those copyrights are valid in most of world. Read the Licensed Anime article on the main AS site for more details.

Both uploading and downloading a work constitutes infringement, though most rightsholders appear more concerned about the former than the latter.
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Old 2008-08-22, 16:46   Link #79
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Looks more of being a Aniplex operation than a BayTSP op. Which of course would mean that just about anything listed here <-- Link would be of susceptible target. BitTorrent that is...
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Old 2008-08-23, 02:27   Link #80
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wtf

Letter to the problem:

----- Original Message -----
From: <aniplex-no-reply@copyright-compliance.com>
To: <copyrightact.sg@pacnet.com>
Sent: -erased-
Subject: Notice ID: -erased- Notice of Unauthorized Use of Aniplex Property

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Notice ID: -erased-
> Notice Date: -erased-
>
> Pacific Internet Limited - Singapore
>
> Dear Sir or Madam:
>
> BayTSP, Inc. ("BayTSP") swears under penalty of perjury that Aniplex, Inc. (collectively, âEUR~AniplexâEUR(TM)) has authorized BayTSP to act as its non-exclusive agent for copyright infringement notification. BayTSP's search of the protocol listed below has detected infringements of AniplexâEUR(TM)s copyright interests on your IP addresses as detailed in the attached report.
>
> BayTSP has reasonable good faith belief that use of the material in the manner complained of in the attached report is not authorized by Aniplex, its agents, or the law. The information provided herein is accurate to the best of our knowledge. Therefore, this letter is an official notification to effect removal of the detected infringement listed in the attached report. The Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works, the Universal Copyright Convention, as well as bilateral treaties with other countries allow for protection of client's copyrighted work even beyond U.S. borders. The attached documentation specifies the exact location of the infringement.
>
> We hereby request that you immediately remove or block access to the infringing material, as specified in the copyright laws, and insure the user refrains from using or sharing with others unauthorized AniplexâEUR(TM)s materials in the future.
>
> Further, we believe that the entire Internet community benefits when these matters are resolved cooperatively. We urge you to take immediate action to stop this infringing activity and inform us of the results of your actions. We appreciate your efforts toward this common goal.
>
> Please respond indicating the actions you have taken to resolve this matter. The provided link has been assigned to this matter. http://webreply.baytsp.com/webreply/...merid=-erased-
>
> For email correspondence, please reference the above Notice ID in the subject line. mailto:aniplex@copyright-compliance.com?subject=-erased-
>
> Nothing in this letter shall serve as a waiver of any rights or remedies of Aniplex with respect to the alleged infringement, all of which are expressly reserved. The complainant agrees to submit to the jurisdiction of the courts of Singapore. Should you need to contact me, I may be reached at the following address:
>
> Mark Ishikawa
> c/o 4 Battery Road #26-01
> Bank of China Building
> Singapore 049908
>
> *pgp public key is available on the key server at ldap://keyserver.pgp.com
>
> Note: The information transmitted in this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from all computers.
>
> This infringement notice contains an XML tag that can be used to automate the processing of this data. If you would like more information on how to use this tag please contact BayTSP.
> Evidentiary Information:
> Notice ID: -erased-
> Asset: Sekirei
> Protocol: BitTorrent
> IP Address: -erased-
> DNS: -erased-
> File Name: [Chihiro]_Sekirei_05_[XviD][820A0663].avi
> File Size: 175792128
> Timestamp: -erased-
> Last Seen Date: -erased-
> URL: http://tracker1.torrentum.pl/announce
> Username (if available):
>
>
> - ---Start ACNS XML
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>
>
> <Infringement xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:noNamespaceSchemaLocation="http://mpto.unistudios.com/xml/Infringement_schema.xsd">
> <Case>
> <ID>-erased-</ID>
> <Status>Open</Status>
> </Case>
> <Complainant>
> <Entity>BayTSP</Entity>
> <Contact>Mark Ishikawa, CEO</Contact>
> <Address>P.O. Box 1314, Los Gatos, California 95031 </Address>
> <Phone>(408) 341-2300,(408) 341-2399</Phone>
> <Email>aniplex@copyright-compliance.com</Email>
> </Complainant>
> <Service_Provider>
> <Entity>Pacific Internet Limited - Singapore</Entity>
> <Address></Address>
> <Email>copyrightact.sg@pacnet.com</Email>
> </Service_Provider>
> <Source>
> <TimeStamp>-erased-</TimeStamp>
> <IP_Address>-erased-</IP_Address>
> <Port></Port>
> <DNS_Name>-erased-.pacific.net.sg</DNS_Name>
> <Type>BitTorrent</Type>
> <UserName></UserName>
> <Number_Files>1</Number_Files>
> <Deja_Vu>No</Deja_Vu>
> </Source>
> <Content>
> <Item>
> <Title>Sekirei</Title>
> <FileName>[Chihiro]_Sekirei_05_[XviD][820A0663].avi</FileName>
> <FileSize>175792128</FileSize>
> <URL>http://tracker1.torrentum.pl/announce</URL>
> </Item>
> </Content>
> </Infringement>
> - ---End ACNS XML
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
> Version: 8.0
>
> -erased-
> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
>
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Well, basically you can see what happened here -_-''', of course, with the removed information that would likely tell them that I post this up >_>

Honestly, I wouldn't know if it's a problem on Aniplex's side, or Chihiro's... From what can be seen in the letter, BayTSP was apparently employed by Aniplex to send out notifications to ISPs regarding copyright materials. Firstly, though, there was no prior mention that Aniplex's works are copyrighted, and hence it's probably unfair to those who suddenly get a warning due to this.

Whatever else... meh -_-
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