2011-02-22, 23:24 | Link #1181 |
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Well going to just bypass the whole "who was owning who" argument since no one is going to change anyone's minds here. I'm rather impressed people can write huge counter arguments to each other and keep it up.
Well interesting timing from Shanks. Certainly helps make up for Coby killing this episode. I get the point he is making, but could probably have done it without appearing both insane and a gigantic crybaby. I hate Akainu but even I wasn't going to be bothered if he blasted Coby out of the series. Do wonder about the timing of Shanks though. Arrives after so much has happened. If it hadn't been for the Coby moment he wouldn't have even made it before Luffy got taken out. I can't imagine he came all this way just to tell Whitebeards corpse that he told him so. Maybe just there to pay his respects and possibly to take his body out of there.
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2011-02-23, 08:30 | Link #1182 | ||||
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Whitebeard had no counter for the Kuma's except to ignore them and charge forward. He also had no counter for the walls; he just ended up getting lucky that oars left them an opening... He also had no plan for getting to Ace and freeing him; that ended up coming from the hands of outsiders that he did not planned on having. Whitebeard came up with a few good moves but for the most part his strategy was charge forward. Hell even his plan to use coated ships didn't really amount to too much when you consider that sengoku had those walls and was ready for Whitebeard's to get that close in the first place... Frankly i think it was rather foolish for WB to not try and send in forces from behind where marineford's defenses were weakest.
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2011-02-23, 12:02 | Link #1183 | |
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don't know how much time has passed from the start of the war up to this point but i think that may be the reason he arrived a little bit late |
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2011-02-23, 14:25 | Link #1184 | |||
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Not even mentioning that they stealthed all their way right into the trap. If you still think that it was a brilliant plan, Please do tell me what would Whitebeard and his pals do if its wasnt for Luffy co. Quote:
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2011-02-23, 20:21 | Link #1185 | |||
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Spend less time on making terrible attempts at flamebaiting and more time elaborating on your posts. Quote:
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2011-02-24, 15:03 | Link #1187 |
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Your still really forgetting about the Schibukai there are SEVEN of them, plus a lot more fake kumas shooting out lasers. They weren't even doing much. So would you say Whitebeard and the priates would fight on even terms IF the Schibukai were involved :/?
Luffy was the person who was encouraging everyone, that is why Whitebeard was protecting Luffy, it wasn't only because he was Ace's brother, it was also he was giving Whitebeard's subordinates courage. |
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You see when fighting on that execution platform, it can easily be destroyed. That's why Garp went to go meet Marco in the sky before punching him in the face, otherwise he would have destroyed the platform fighting on it. But jumping from the platform leaves Ace unguarded, which is why you need another man there, in this case it was Sengoku. After Luffy punches Garp, notice how Sengoku doesn't rush immediately to attack Luffy, but instead waits for Luffy to come for him, therefore Sengoku doesn't leave Ace open. That's why I said that the Pirates winning the war =/= the Pirates being stronger than the Marines because it doesn't. In an all out fight, where there is no execution taking place, and Garp and Sengoku are actively participating, I have no doubt in my mind that the Marines would definitely win. I believe that the Marines are stronger than any Yonkou crews + their allies. Quote:
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It amounted to them not having to fight 50+ battleships. Didn't you see the diagram of Marineford during the war? There was no weak point because every inch was covered with battleships, in fact if you look at the map clearly, Whitebeard attacked at the best place to attack.
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2011-02-27, 00:20 | Link #1191 |
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I wonder why whitebeard dont make his own real family?? instead of making sons he never met before???
his dream is to have a family right?? why not find girl and marry her?? and make love together and have a real sons and daughters??
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2011-02-27, 04:36 | Link #1193 | |
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2011-02-27, 16:02 | Link #1195 |
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Well if he did have a wife and a family, what will he do? Quit being a pirate? Hmm... I dont think so. I really think that he would be chased around by Marines, or he can bring his "real" family with him and put in danger. That's probably why lol, either way he'll still put his family in danger.
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2011-02-28, 11:22 | Link #1197 | ||
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"being a pirate is hard to have a family" since the marines will be hunting down his bloodline and he doesnt want that to happen. But what can you say about Gol D. Roger's Family?
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2011-02-28, 12:28 | Link #1198 | ||||
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I think its also possible that Whitebeard did not want to give the impression he was playing favorites... he came to love his crew members like his own sons, and having a REAL family might have spoiled it since his crew would think he valued his real family more... kinda like how Squado was made to feel about the idea of Whitebeard selling out the new world captains for Ace. think of an adopted child in a family that has a blood related child; despite what the parents might say the adopted child might constantly think that the parents love their "real" child more
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There's a nice big spot in the back ripe for attack... i mean that's basically where blackbeard likely came from
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2011-03-06, 00:16 | Link #1199 |
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And thus the Marineford arc comes to an end, and we're being led into the post-war arc.
Events have been set in motion and the world's about to undergo quite a change. Anime-only viewers, look forward to it.~
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2011-03-06, 01:29 | Link #1200 |
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Nothing more needs to be said about this week's episode. The war has concluded.
Here's the preview for the next episode: http://www.fujitv.co.jp/GPplayer/e/G...piece&type=flv
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