2008-09-30, 13:47 | Link #3061 | |
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That was toward the end, and as for panning we follow through with the hat just as much until we are led up to the crane. to which we see C.C etc etc. I'm just saying that the camera angling is once again quite suspicious, and as a result I interpret that suspicion is to be welcomed in the ending now by the Director and Sunrise, which BTW fits the usual trend in which they do things
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2008-09-30, 13:52 | Link #3063 | |
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I believe the scene was intentionally ambiguous, and that you are meant to draw your own conclusion. Whether you're right or not probably won't be explained. At least I hope not. |
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2008-09-30, 14:01 | Link #3064 | |
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2008-09-30, 14:04 | Link #3065 |
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My problem with Lelouch still being alive is mostly what kind of a person does that make him? Considering the slide of blood he made while reaching Nunally.... if all that was part of a show, poor girl, She'll probably wake up screaming for a while.
Suzaku was crying in the episode as he stabbed Lelouch, this leads me to belive in his mind he knew he was killing Lelouch since let's face it, he was still pretty pissed off about Euphie. Now if Lelouch was still alive, I'm not sure how Suzaku would like that and if Lelouch broke the promise, what kind of a person would that make him? I really see no benefit in Lelouch being left alive apart from: a) him being paired with C.C. b) him not being dead Also, C.C. was crying... why, because he would become immortal? I doubt it and part of why I like the ending is that C.C. didn't force her immortality on Lelouch but found a new inspiration to be alive and see how the world would be influenced by Lelouch's legacy. Either way, Lelouch became immortal, one ending is a plain immortal one riding the cart of hay for all eternity, the other one is he'll never forgoten by his loved ones and maybe one day the rest of the world will know the truth. P.S.: Kallen would probably demand another Gurren to be built and put that key to good use to find and stomp his ass into the ground for all eternity if she found out he was alive and fooling with C.C. on a haystack. Last edited by Vito; 2008-09-30 at 14:15. |
2008-09-30, 14:05 | Link #3066 | |
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Geass from Lelouch but no visible effect -> Charles shoots himself -> Laughs at Lelouch at the mind fucking he gave him -> Shows his code -> Says Geass and Guns have no affect. Okham's Razor says: He had the Code, hence why the Geass is never shown completing. |
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2008-09-30, 14:28 | Link #3067 |
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I, for one, believe that he is alive. It's personal opinion and the opening is left completely up to interpretation. But I'm under the impression that R.R. (pronouciation of Lelouch in Japanese [ReReousha] R2 connection?) has a code and is now an immortal.
Here are my speculations and thoughts(remember just thoughts): 1) You don't actually get the code transfer unless the initial bearer is near death. Remember V.V.'s death and the nun's death 2) You don't activate the code until you die. Remember C.C.'s scene, and Charles killing himself (In this case, Charles knew how to activate it since VV would have told him). 3) The existence of multiple codes (well we only know of two). If these immortals want to get rid of themselves, why didn't they just do what happened to Charles? Possibly because you can't get rid of codes? 4) How would they rap up CC's happiness? How would Lelouch being dead bring a smile to her face? Why would she have a crane with her? Also she could have been crying because she knows the pain of being an immortal. For the entire series, she's essentially trying to get rid of it...Oh and how does Lelouch prove her ending statement of not being lonely? 5) Why would Jeremiah be okay with the death of his one and only master? Anyways, there's a possibility no one knew about him getting a code and when he found out he just decided to pack up and leave without telling anyone? Characters like Lelouch only give out info on a need to know basis anyway. Hahaha what they need to do is explain this whole coding process to us. On a side note, what if Lelouch's body was in a coffin under the hay that CC was on and she's just bringing it along with her for kicks and giggles? |
2008-09-30, 14:30 | Link #3068 | |
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2008-09-30, 14:30 | Link #3069 | |
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- Anyway guys, some new thoeries about [I]lelouch lives![/I ? |
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2008-09-30, 14:33 | Link #3071 |
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I'm 50/50 on Lelouch being alive or not.
If he is alive -Why would Suzaku and C.C. be crying about it. If he is dead -Would Orange just really let him die and smile about it. -C.C. never talks to herself,unless she was talking to Marianne or Charles. On a side note, we never saw what happened to Lelouch's body so I have no idea.
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2008-09-30, 14:39 | Link #3074 |
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Haha I posted my code theory but until the studio/directors say something about the process we'll never know! Oh and yes!
How would Nunally see the memories of Lelouch? Was that just for effect like how Lelouch saw CCs memories? Haha. Speculate on that? |
2008-09-30, 14:40 | Link #3075 |
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And if they did, well, effectively speaking he would still be 'dead' since he would have to give up the life he left behind anyway, never seeing his friends and having to hide from the world. As for C.C, why make promises he couldn't keep in this case I wonder? Perhaps in the church she was praying in (strange since given her experience with the nun you'd think she had an aversion to churches) perhaps she was wishing for something in that context. A number of explanations and possibilities are still up for grabs, and that is how I think then ending wants us to take it on the matter
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2008-09-30, 14:42 | Link #3076 | |
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So If the gods can kill an immortal (charles) I think they can resurrect a person . Lelouch could have been resurrected the day after his death, to be able to have a tomorrow. And he said to the gods that this is a wish, but in 25, he said to suzaku that the wish and the geass are kinda the same thing. (iirc). Seeing c.c. praying the gods while she knows who they are is a hint, "in my eyes" :O. I believe in that ^^. |
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2008-09-30, 14:44 | Link #3077 | |
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2008-09-30, 14:47 | Link #3078 | |
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I will not be surprised at all if they do an oav and explain that the gods played a part in the ending. They showed us the gods as something really powerful. The gods have even the power to kill and immortal. |
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2008-09-30, 14:51 | Link #3079 |
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CC's wish was to smile, and Lelouch wanted to complete that wish. It's actually quite romantic, how CC's wish changed again. In the last episode, she no longer wished to smile, but her wish was the survival of Lelouch, which may have been granted, if Lelouch is with CC. Hence forth, the contract that started in episode 1, has been completed!
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2008-09-30, 15:13 | Link #3080 | |
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However, I don't think that we are imagining things. Even if he really died, they added some things that can make you think that he is still alive. like the cart driver who doesn't show his face. Or c.c. who raise her voice without any reason. They can have done this scene differently if they wanted us to be sure that he is dead. |
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