Medaka Box [Manga]

[kingstonbeer]

Welcome to Medaka Box where the dead ain't exactly dead and a gazillion powers can be perfectly countered with just one !!

God Nisio should have a troll king seal of approval.

[RedKey]

Originally Posted by Inarius

c'mon CXC >:3

Yeah sorry my fault, this chapter was infodumping all the way, and I'm still somewhat of a beginner myself so it took a while to translate all of that.

Anyway,

Spoiler for 166:

Hanten himself says that to the all-powerful Ajimu, having a double would just be a nuisance. So why exactly would she need him as a backup? And how did they *make* the other Shiranui family members? It seemed strange to be that Nisio used 作る, to make, instead of 生まれる, to be born, to describe the Shiranui

[Randrak42]

I knew it! I freaking knew my lovely Undead Samurai Zombie Schoolgirl Nienami would be back, she was by far the most fun out of the style users.

And I seriously hope Zenkichi's part in this isn't over yet or at least that he doesn't fade away into the background. True, he's one of my favorite characters and that of course leads to wanting more from him but it just doesn't seem natural to have a Shiranui Hansode focused arc with Zenkichi staying out of the picture (he hasn't really done anything that relevant in an arc about his best friend, it's been Medaka all the way).

Kumagawa? Oh please, he's the most popular character in the damn manga...no way he'll fade into the background so I'm not worried in the least about him.

[orangejuicetang]

Wait, here's a thing I just noticed

Spoiler for 166:

Did Hanten just imply that Iihiko could destroy skills and minuses? Well, what he said was that skills and minuses don't work against them, and also there was that page where Ajimu and Iihiko actually fought where it looked like Ajimu's skills were all scattered as well

[DawnEmperor]

Interesting that styles still have a place in the Sorting Algorithm even after they spent an arc fighting and defeating style users.

And actually...why are we taking those powers at face value(that is, the wounds not healing). Perhaps there's some loophole to it.

Let's see...Ajimu get's a fairly important death, Kumagawa and Zenkichi are just victims of the Worf Effect, the 13 party manages to hold their own against Ihiko

Glad Tsurubami's back, and Nienami too, though I do wish the rest of the student council(both former and current) could still play a part.

@Randrak Zenkichi's role has always fluctuated it seems. Even though he's at least the deuteragonist(or supporting protagonist), sometimes he's relegated to being just a satellite character to Medaka(oh he's important because he changed Medaka).

[kingstonbeer]

Wish there was a real yardstick though. A bit hard to process what should beat what in this manga.

Anyone wants to take a stab at how long Ajimu takes to return (dead or otherwise)

@Randrak what is the name of that artist I know I've seen him somewhere before?

[shmaster]

Originally Posted by RedKey

Yeah sorry my fault, this chapter was infodumping all the way, and I'm still somewhat of a beginner myself so it took a while to translate all of that.

Anyway,

Spoiler for 166:

Hanten himself says that to the all-powerful Ajimu, having a double would just be a nuisance. So why exactly would she need him as a backup? And how did they *make* the other Shiranui family members? It seemed strange to be that Nisio used 作る, to make, instead of 生まれる, to be born, to describe the Shiranui

Spoiler:

Peserve rare specie is Shiranui's nature. Hanten is just acting by that nature to serve as a back up for Anshin'in so her existence can be preserved. Which refelects in how much he wants to carry on her will.

[Homura7]

Spoiler for spoiler:

And... everything was an act, Shiranui is back to her usual "I don't give a flying fuck" self.

[Thth]

Training Arc lol!

Anyway it seems to me everyone is being setup, (IIhiko, Medaka, Shiranui included) and manipulated. Everything seems to be too streamlined, Hansode's new role only makes it more suspicious.

As for Ajimu, Zenkichi and Kumagawa, they are probably having an undead conference in their post-life classroom.

[Tyabann]

Not what I expected at all, but not a bad chapter.
It was explained to me some time ago that the difference between Styles and Skills is something like the difference between "Level" and "Rank" in Yugioh, which actually seems to be quite a good comparison here. It's possible that Styles were developed with the specific purpose of defeating Iihiko and beings like him.

Originally Posted by Thth

As for Ajimu, Zenkichi and Kumagawa, they are probably having an undead conference in their post-life classroom.

This is what I'm thinking too. Ajimu is absurdly popular, she won't be dead for long.

[willx]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

This is what I'm thinking too. Ajimu is absurdly popular, she won't be dead for long.

She better! C'mon Nisio, she was like the imbodiment of every troll in existence.. It was as if god had a sense of humor.. Don't put us through the torment of an Ajimi-less existence..

[Naginoura]

Spoiler for 166:

At least now we know why Shiranui would go so far as to say "I love you" to Medaka. She is playing the man who loved Medaka like a daughter. So Medaka will learn a style from Shiranui-as-fukurou's-shadow to save Shiranui from becoming Iihiko? XD

It really does feel like the man with the infinite love is behind everything that has ever happened.

[Xellos-_^]

Originally Posted by willx

She better! C'mon Nisio, she was like the imbodiment of every troll in existence.. It was as if god had a sense of humor.. Don't put us through the torment of an Ajimi-less existence..

at the end of the Arc there will probably be scene of Ajimi drinking tea with a "just as Keikaku" expression

[Spinell]

Originally Posted by orangejuicetang

translated chapter is out

Spoiler for 166:

Style users are back! Nanami and Meda's little brother looking pretty cool. Iihiko actually looked quite 'heroish' when he was still alive, huh? Ajimu seems to definitely be dead too, that's a bit sad. Looks like the way Iihiko survives all these years is by 'inheriting' the body of a Shirnaui? Although for some reason it's hard to imagine Iihiko in that loli body lol, unless Shirnaui's body changes too when the personality is transferred. And looks like we'll finally be meeting Medaka's 'dead' other father

As i understand, he is not inheriting the body. The original Iihiko is long dead. When he died the backup took his place, forming his mind (and possibly body) to be like Iihikos. And this happened for 5000 or so years.

My tbeory, that's might be also why they will be able to heal the wounds and defeat Iihiko in the end. The first backup copied the original Iihiko as good as he could. The second copied the first copy as good as he could. So over the course of time, the current Iihiko and the original are slightly different thanks to accumulated slight errors.
The originals "destruction" ability did probaly really cause final destruction but the currents one skill might be slightly different.

[RedKey]

Last chapter was updated. Hanten's speech on page 9 now actually makes sense.
I'm truly sorry guys, I completely screwed up some of Hanten's lines. I'll try to make sure that doesn't happen again.

[Sol Falling]

It's alright dude. More than that, we appreciate the transparency and effort you are clearly putting into this.

[DawnEmperor]

You know, I really have to appreciate the speculation. It does make me a bit hopeful(having a conference between Zenkichi, Kumagawa, and Ajimu in the afterlife)

[ziggi92]

This So called "Hero" Iihiko came 5000 years ago do they not always talk about Medaka being "hero" that appears every 5000 year so it is kind of Ironic that the Old "Hero" Ihiko will fight against New "Hero" Medaka .

[orangejuicetang]

Originally Posted by ziggi92

This So called "Hero" Iihiko came 5000 years ago do they not always talk about Medaka being "hero" that appears every 5000 year so it is kind of Ironic that the Old "Hero" Ihiko will fight against New "Hero" Medaka .

A 'hero' appears once every thousand years fyi.

Which means that for all we know Nisio may introduce 4 other 'hero' type characters in a later arc.

[Guernsey]

Hero or otherwise, Medaka needs to find somehting that can defeat Iihiko especially since he can no sell Abnormals and Minuses. I guess there are things that Kumagawa's All Fiction and Medaka's The End cannot defeat all....