2010-03-17, 18:42 | Link #1081 | |
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While Charles would obviously be interested in C.C. on her own, Clovis didn't know about Ragnarok, so he might think he needed to do some research on her to prove that she wasn't just a novelty gift to distract Charles from the continued problems in Japan. If he can present a book full of applications of testing on her, things like the neural-link technology and cyberization tests for stronger soldiers and weapons, or advances in medical science, then he would look like he was actually being practical and not trying to cover up his failures. However, as you say, since that sort of thing wasn't Clovis' interest, he likely left it to Bartley. |
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2010-03-17, 19:19 | Link #1082 | |||
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That mostly fits with how I see the whole thing. Although, considering that Charles probably never showed much interest in Area 11, one has to wonder why Clovis thought it was necessary to throw a surprise gift at him. I mean, it would have been about two years Clovis had been in charge of Area 11 when they captured C.C., maybe a bit more - not so much he'd have needed to feel threatened, I think, considering he was able to keep up appearances in front of the public. Maybe he was simply thinking ahead, as he had no intention of making an actualy effort, but even then, handing over C.C. wouldn't have been enough for the Emperor to just let Area 11 go to Hell, considering Britannia is all about power and progress. It would, however, have made sense if he had planned to drop the whole governor thing. Give the Emperor C.C. and request to let someone else take over his post. That way, he wouldn't have lost anything by getting rid of a job he had asked for himself, but in truth despised. Quote:
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2010-03-17, 19:43 | Link #1083 | ||
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As for throwing surprise gifts at Charles, you never know. We aren't told how much progress if any Clovis made in cleaning up terrorism, but it was small at best, given many of the things Cornelia commented on, along with the NAC taking bribes. Given Japan's proximity to the CF and EU, I don't think it would be unlikely for Charles to occasionally breath down Clovis' neck about progress in controlling the violence. Rather than not making an effort, there is the possibility that he really wanted to be the one to stabilize Japan, and his inability to do so prompted Charles to make the classic "Suceed or I'll appoint someone who can." threats at some point, and the periodic gifts were Clovis' attempt to keep his job and dignity amongst his family. If Code-R had gone through, then he might get first dibs on being able to employ the results, possibly giving him his own Lancelot equivalents to keep order in Japan, as he didn't want to use the Lancelot itself since doing so was "incurring a debt" from Schneizel. Quote:
Also, was the Druid System also developed from research in Code-R? I thought I read a while back that it was. |
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2010-03-18, 06:45 | Link #1087 |
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We only know that it's going to be during 2010. I'm betting the "sneak peak at the new project" that'll be included on the DVD/BD will address this matter though. I wouldn't be surprised if it'll show us some panels and stuff like that from the actual manga and maybe short interviews with Taniguchi and Takuma. I pretty much assume that the release date will be mentioned.
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2010-03-18, 07:46 | Link #1088 | |||
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Area 11 was far from perfect, but there was no real danger for Charles' plans until Lelouch came along. Also, I don't think the Emperor would have known about many of Clovis' failures, except if he planted spies in Area 11 who knew more than Clovis himself. Quote:
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The anime made it pretty clear that he spent more time on his paintings than on his duties, and even when he took care of the latter to some extent, he was giving theatralic speeches and throwing social events he only seemed remotely interested in himself. He was very optimistic in the Sound Drama about the whole thing, but later he just seemed disillusioned, even going so far as to order a massacre with a casual shrug of his shoulders. He was no longer interested in turning Area 11 in a resting place worthy of Lelouch, or he wouldn't have done that. Clovis was no idiot. If he'd really put in an effort, he'd have been able to at least keep his job - after all, he used to be a decent opponent for Lelouch, if not quite on par with him. The fact that he lost so pathetically seven years later, in my opinion, shows that he'd not made an effort in quite some time, and ultimately lost the ability to do so. The contrast between SoundDrama!Clovis and anime!Clovis is glaringly obvious. The former was determined and optimistic, someone able to understand essential things about Lelouch and only one step behind him, while the latter looked bored most of the time and had gone from "kind" to "incredibly callous". The only thing still in accordance with his former self were his paintings, like the one of Lelouch. He put an effort into reminiscing about the past and preserving the present (-> remaining governor), but not into the future, and that was his ultimate failing. ... Maybe I should simply write another essay on him. Gah, I didn't plan to start rambling. xD
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2010-03-20, 17:47 | Link #1089 |
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this may have been answered but is Lelouch gunna be in the new manga/anime if he is will it be the one from R1 and R2 if so will he remember what happened in them? confusing my self now lol XD cause i no hes gunna be in the new manga and anime
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2010-03-20, 18:02 | Link #1090 |
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Read afew pages back, before all this offtopic happened. Or go to the first post (TrueElements) and get the stuff from it.
All of this is just heavy speculation and so forth. Everything is in the air until we can put a name to things, figuratively speaking. |
2010-03-24, 13:48 | Link #1091 |
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Found this about the new manga:
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/7863/021ik.jpg Code Geass : Shikkoku no Renya will start in Shounen Ace # 07 (On sale May 26) |
2010-03-24, 17:14 | Link #1092 | |
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Thanks for the post. ...Also, did Renya's eyes go from green to gray-green?
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2010-03-25, 15:18 | Link #1093 | |
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edit: derp it says it in the corner <_<
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2010-03-26, 00:14 | Link #1096 |
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darn it really if this keep maybe this might idea for new geass project http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ldAhdqklrE with suzaku being bauer?!
really why can't just a geass anime special with all REAL TRUTH is revealed or this geass is really like anime version of LOST?!
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