2008-07-06, 20:47 | Link #601 |
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I'm more amused by how quickly Wesley jumped on the bandwagon.
I guess that's the thing with character spotlights. So far, the story followed Ranka's movements so closely that it's easy to miss the little signs in Sheryl's actions and jump into conclusions since half of the time, Sheryl's in the center of it when Ranka's in one of her pitiful/uncertain moods. That's why I love Sheryl's blog entries. It gives her the balance she needed. I think it's such a funky and creative way of showing everyone what she's really thinking deep inside in correspondence to each episode while the anime focuses Ranka to a certain extent. The series is beginning to watch Sheryl closely now, but I'll still refer to her blog entries for her additional thoughts anyway. |
2008-07-06, 20:49 | Link #602 | |
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Perhaps she simply finds Ranka cute in a puppy dog kind of way. Hell, maybe Ranka reminds her of some long lost pet she had as a child. The way Sheryl's always talking down to or past Ranka, it'd sure fit the bill. "Who's a little upstart amateur who's whole world revolves around me? You are, yes, you are! Here's a little high-handed speech to boost your self-esteem. Oh, you're so cute!" I'm actually surprised Sheryl even knows her name. |
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2008-07-06, 21:02 | Link #603 | ||
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I try to take her at face value, and in doing so she just seems thoughtless, whimiscal, and a bit inconsistent. Not to mention a loner that is vain and arrogant, unlike the "Whatever"-type. Quote:
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2008-07-06, 21:04 | Link #604 | |
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2008-07-06, 21:07 | Link #606 | |
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Yeah, Sheryl knew her name because she actually paid attention, unlike whatever you think.
One time and you could say she did it on a whim, but do you count how many time did Sheryl give Ranka advice? One, two, three, four, five or six times? Does Sheryl like going around and giving free advices? No. Sheryl sees Ranka as a promising singer, but the confidence about her work doesn't let it worry her. That's not arrogant. If she ever displayed some kind of worry, I bet someone would immediately jump in the chance and say that she's a jealous bitch. Your imagination is creative Hey, at least we agree at the comment about Ranka looking like a puppy Quote:
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2008-07-06, 21:09 | Link #607 | |
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2008-07-06, 21:10 | Link #608 |
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@ Wesley84
She acted like that when she met Alto the first time. And she has outgrown that predetermined mold that was set out for her. She has a lot of confidence, yes, because she HAS to. It's because she has to depend on herself a LOT in order to get through the loneliness that she feels, and it is what eventually made her the Galactic Fairy. I have to give her credit for that. However, that kiss in episode 10 is... well I don't know what to make out of it. Sheryl did see Ranka before she made that move on Alto. Which was a few seconds before Ranka turned around to see that kiss. Prior to this scene, Sheryl knew that Alto would be kissing Ranka, Alto substituting for the actor to play as Shin in the underwater scene, and Ranka would be the one who is going to play as Mao. Probably she really didn't mean anything by it, she didn't expect Ranka to turn around and see them kiss, she sees Bobby talking to Ranka on the beach, then whether intentionally or not, she kissed Alto and Ranka sees what they were doing. It's very hard not to see Sheryl because of her pink blond hair and her orange jacket; even if Ranka didn't intentionally try to look over at where Alto and Sheryl were standing, she will catch any movement that would be going on to where they were. Sheryl teased Alto again, by kissing him like that, or maybe she was also getting Alto to be prepared for the kiss. Maybe she didn't see Ranka on the beach, but she did see Alto looking over at Ranka on the beach. Her attention was fixed on Alto, who was looking over at Ranka, with Alto looking kinda worried or is maybe worried over Ranka in terms of that scene. And mentioned it to Sheryl.
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2008-07-06, 21:18 | Link #609 | |
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I'm more comfortable with the second interpretation. The little smile Sheryl had seemed more and more like a result of inconsistent animation. She kissed him to challenge the kiss remark he made, but the vulnerable look she had tells us she wasn't expecting to feel the powerful rush of emotions. She then quickly played it off while laughing, and she was blushing like a shy schoolgirl while doing it. (On another issue, her denial of her feelings here fits what was shown with us in Episode 13 : she's still in denial over her feelings for Alto. (Going by one of Michael's subbed lines of "Looks like she fell in love with you too" only to have her blushing and harrumphing.)) It didn't say anything about her intentions on wanting to goad Ranka. Ranka happened to look her way while she was doing it. Look at the entirety of how they executed that sequence. |
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2008-07-06, 21:25 | Link #610 |
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Sheryl saw Ranka out there, but Ranka had her back turned. She didn't look out at Ranka wait for her to turn around and then go kiss Alto....I could understand people being upset if she did that, but that's not what happened.
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2008-07-06, 21:27 | Link #611 |
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Um what. Sheryl's eyes were emotional, it's not like she is in a rush of conflicting emotions that she finds out she likes Alto. In a sense that probably she tried to see if Alto did like hanging out with her or if he did think of her in a way that could've showed some emotion on his part. When I saw that scene, I felt for Sheryl. It's like she gives Alto a kiss and...Alto just always looked like himself. Crap, if I kissed the guy I liked that way then he looks poker faced, that would really just crush my ego and stamp it down to even more than a million miles under the earth. Sheryl tries to hide that crushing realization by acting like she was teasing him. But she likes Alto, there's no denying that. But Alto was so mean to her that scene... @ zalem I watched that scene again a couple of times. It may look like Sheryl sees Ranka, but her eyes look weird...they were looking at Alto. QUALITY! Or maybe she did see Ranka. Also, Bobby was seated in a way that a small part of the hut where Sheryl and Alto were was still shown. It's possible that even if Ranka was facing Bobby when she turned around, she could probably see what Sheryl and Alto were doing if there was a quick movement, based on Sheryl's hair color and the jacket she wore.
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2008-07-06, 21:31 | Link #612 |
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Haha, I think Alto was too unsure what to make out of what Sheryl did, so he tried to keep a straight face. He was probably thinking of what Sheryl's intentions were for kissing him. For a moment there when Sheryl was kissing Alto, he had that "WTF?!" look, so I suppose he was just... a confused little boy.
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2008-07-06, 21:34 | Link #614 |
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Or maybe Alto was slow. In any case, at least he could've shown some effort on his part to look flustered, which only happened after Sheryl teased him about it. That's just...so odd about what happened.
@ crisis However, there was the scene when Alto decides to look for Ranka and Sheryl had this weird look on her face. you can't deny she was frowning. I wonder why. Frustration? And before the kiss happened, Sheryl knew that he was going to kiss Mao (the former actress for that role). Then Ranka gets the role. If Sheryl was readying Alto for the kiss scene, she could've already done it prior to Alto searching for Ranka, but of course, it would be an injustice since Sheryl didn't know that Ranka was going to play Mao's role. But that's impossible cause Ranka's manager wasn't exactly quiet, and Sheryl could've heard the good news when Ranka returned.
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2008-07-06, 21:35 | Link #615 | ||
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Sheryl is insecure because she can see that Alto cares for Ranka. Did you notice that Alto doesn't bat an eye when males fawn over Sheryl? Could be cause he knows it comes with the territory. Yet he displayed jealousy twice when Ranka got attention? Episode 13...after the shouts of deculture! and nosebleeds. He gets an irritated look and then stunted <--Showing off by flying right to Ranka "She's mine" Ranka is strong willed. She may have had doubts but she goes through with it . You know what...I don't want to half ass it. Because I want you to fully understand my POV. *Translation* I have to screen shot it and break it down @You know who you are... it's really you... Quote:
Don't hide behind reps...Say to me. One thing no matter how bad you insult me. I will never red-rep. I don't believe it. No I am just going to eat your ass like cookies. Now I believe bash the character never the fans. I don't blame you for your choices...I think should be allowed to have mine... Don't bite me and I won't bite you. Because I bite hard... Now I didn't care. too much And even though. I am on the unfavorable team this time. I have been reading most of your arguments for a few weeks now. *Too Easy* @ "Thunder" You just got your wish. This thread just got jacked. For those who don't visit the Bleach forums or MY thread...watch me do it again in here Random: Does anyone ever notice I give this speech to the unassuming, first? So get your best arguments out. So I can chew em up and spit em out. Because I am going to take a few of the best arguments...and use you to make a point. I didn't want to come in here like that but you forced me to it...Be careful what you wish for... *Don't say I didn't warn you* You know what... thread just got hijacked by OD. watch me pwn this thread too...Everything above or below this line...is about get crushed by the OD Keep in mind it's all in fun and I am just a wise ass. just one who can debate my ass off. |
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2008-07-06, 21:50 | Link #616 | ||
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But heaven forbid that Sheryl ever admit to having misgivings or showing some sign of weakness to a, heh heh, puppy dog... Quote:
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The only time she's had a good idea the whole series is when she tried to give Alto the oppurtunity to fly through planet-bound gas, and I wouldn't mind her having a huge ego if someone would actually fault her for it. The closest anyone's come to criticising Sheryl though was Nanase, and that was kind of underwhelming. I mean, geez, Sheryl tried to kill herself, Alto, and Ranka, only to prove some stupid point about doing things on her own terms, and nobody called her on her rash and suicidal behavior (I'm sure many people hated Minmei for merely suggesting the same thing). I suspect most actually applauded her for it, only because of how cool and tough it sounded, which is a real problem I think. Sheryl says alot of cool/tough things, but in doing so it makes her seem even less like a person and more like a personality the anime staff want to parade around for consumption. |
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2008-07-06, 22:17 | Link #619 | |
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Nothing has shown us that she's insecure. The entire series has portrayed her a very self-confident woman, especially this past Ep13. The only insecure moment she's had was in Ep6, and that was about her childhood on Galaxy.
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