Umineko no Naku Koro ni - Episode 2 Discussion / Poll

[Christen]

Ep.2 will begin by episode 6. This is confirmed, so I'm expecting a normalized pace starting next episode.

[Skullchukka]

From anime networks;
2009-07-02 1.Episode I-I opening
2009-07-09 2.Episode I-II first move
2009-07-16 3.Episode I-III dubious move
2009-07-23 4.Episode I-IV blunder
2009-07-30 5.Episode I-V fool's mate
2009-08-06 6.Episode II-I middle game

So it is 5 for VN Episode 1. If they go on that pace... Then 20 episodes for the whole 4 VN Episodes, let's say they'll probably extend it to 24 or 26.

Then one year break and wait for Umineko VN Ep 5,6,7 & 8? O.o

[Scython]

At episode 6, right?

[Westlo]

Originally Posted by Skullchukka

Then one year break and wait for Umineko VN Ep 5,6,7 & 8? O.o

August = VN 5
Dec = VN 6
August 2010 = VN 7
Dec 2010 = VN 8

I'll say Spring 2011 is the earliest you'll see an animated sequel, more than likely Summer or Fall.

[miroku2192]

I liked episode 2 :\. Though like someone pointed out earlier, the scene with natsuhi could've been better, in that to some extent, i understood that her background must've been really rough/hard, especially given her treatment, and just the way the other siblings treat her (mainly that one brown haired girl with the fan) - coming from a non-novel/game or w/e reader/player.

Man...idk so am i supposed to believe beatrice DOES exist? As in...the scenes we see, is that from a "3rd person" outer-side view, or is it from some delusional dude. I mean, the murderer could even be kanon...though he does seem a bit too much on the nice side, but who knows? WIth his whole "we're furniture blahblah" feeling.

edit:

You know what this reminds me of? "And then there were none" by agatha christie. That was a sweet book if any of you haven't read it.

2nd edit:
If natsuhi didn't have that "charm" on her door, do you think she would've died instead of Shannon? But man, the death flags were all set when he gave her the ring *sigh*. I was hoping she wouldnt die...LAME

3rd edit (man i should stop adding stuff):

IT's definiteyl NOT that censored. Mine's on pretty light setting, and i can see a lot of the pictures pretty clearly...definitely NOT a pretty sight.

4th edit:

*sigh* i doubt there wouldn't be a beatrice...otherwise why would she be in so many frames in the OP. ughhh i can't decide what's gonna happenn

[jdlkem]

I thought the anime adaptation has been quite good so far. Personally, I felt that Episode I was quite a throw-away compared to the other three question Episodes. To people who haven't been spoiled by the blood + gore of that last scene, I think it would have been a huge shock, as at this very early point, already a third of the people on the island are dead (or missing).

About the information presented (or the lack of), I felt that Studio DEEN has done a good thing. For instance, the relationships between the different characters aren't that important in Episode I, but we learn quite a lot. The problem I've had about the similarities between the different Episodes is that they emphasize some connections between characters over and over, albeit in a different way or context. That Kyrie's (or Rudolf's) relationship to Battler hasn't been completely disclosed indicates that they will (must!) do that at some point, either at the beginning of the next episode, or maybe later, as long as it is introduced before it is important.

The one (two) quibble I had with the episode is Eva's and Natsuhi's timings. Natsuhi is supposed to be absent when the servants come back after having seen the (transmutation) circle. Eva is supposed to head to the shed first, and then Natsuhi, along with Nanjo and the kids, is supposed to head out after Genji comes back to notify Nanjo. In the anime, however, Natsuhi travels out first, with Eva arriving a bit later. Its almost like they're trying to hint at Eva being the (a) culprit for this Episode, but nothing is certain, whether it be in the VN or the anime.

Overall I thought this episode was very good. It felt slightly rushed, although it has to be, if this series is going to cover Episodes I-IV. Episode I is basically the introduction of the entire series, and I think they're doing a good job of that. After this Episode, I believe Studio DEEN will (must!) be much more detailed with explanations, and slow down the pace (especially Episode IV!).

Maria is my second favorite character. A*** is my first. =P

[typhonsentra]

Once again, they're cramming things in too tightly. Little things like the exchange between Eva and Natsuhi. Everything leading up to the big reveal at the end was rushed at a pretty crazy pace.

[Rena Ryuuguu]

Originally Posted by Christen

Ep.2 will begin by episode 6. This is confirmed, so I'm expecting a normalized pace starting next episode.

thank you for the Info

[Aminado]

Originally Posted by jdlkem

I thought the anime adaptation has been quite good so far. Personally, I felt that Episode I was quite a throw-away compared to the other three question Episodes. To people who haven't been spoiled by the blood + gore of that last scene, I think it would have been a huge shock, as at this very early point, already a third of the people on the island are dead (or missing).

About the information presented (or the lack of), I felt that Studio DEEN has done a good thing. For instance, the relationships between the different characters aren't that important in Episode I, but we learn quite a lot. The problem I've had about the similarities between the different Episodes is that they emphasize some connections between characters over and over, albeit in a different way or context. That Kyrie's (or Rudolf's) relationship to Battler hasn't been completely disclosed indicates that they will (must!) do that at some point, either at the beginning of the next episode, or maybe later, as long as it is introduced before it is important.

The one (two) quibble I had with the episode is Eva's and Natsuhi's timings. Natsuhi is supposed to be absent when the servants come back after having seen the (transmutation) circle. Eva is supposed to head to the shed first, and then Natsuhi, along with Nanjo and the kids, is supposed to head out after Genji comes back to notify Nanjo. In the anime, however, Natsuhi travels out first, with Eva arriving a bit later. Its almost like they're trying to hint at Eva being the (a) culprit for this Episode, but nothing is certain, whether it be in the VN or the anime.

Overall I thought this episode was very good. It felt slightly rushed, although it has to be, if this series is going to cover Episodes I-IV. Episode I is basically the introduction of the entire series, and I think they're doing a good job of that. After this Episode, I believe Studio DEEN will (must!) be much more detailed with explanations, and slow down the pace (especially Episode IV!).

Maria is my second favorite character. A*** is my first. =P

I'm expecting that most of the changes are merely cosmetic or very minor, when you consider that a few key changes could completely alter the course of the story as well as suspicions, alibis etc. Even a change in character timing, appearance or action could drastically alter the story.

[patnam]

Last time Higurashi Question Arcs show first 4 episodes in 1 arc, now Umineko put 5 episodes for 1 arc (EP1)...
what a good extention...

[Yami Sonozaki]

Okay, so I just watched the 2nd ep now, and as being new to the series I have a few observations too xd:

Spoiler for the second episode.:

- during the letter scene, in my opinion, Maria(DEEN?) failed to make the scene as mysterious as it could have been; I mean, it didn't seem anything else but someone reading a letter; I think it could have been better;
-liked the talk between Kinzo and Natsuhi; a pretty nice scene;
-the gold bar part wasn't as shocking as I think it should have been; I mean, Krauss had one of those "mysterious" golden bars; how weird is that?
-is Natsuhi's hair really in 2 colors? I hope it is. If not, DEEN has a serious problem xd
-GO GEORGE!
-Maria watching those Higurashi clips on tv was quite awesome, especially for us Higu fans
-hated the part when the kids came in at the end, and no one tried to hold them back(except for Natsuhi, but she failed); I mean, it was a slaughter, how could you let kids see that?
-loved Jessica's scream;
-hated Battler's performance overall in the last scene; I mean come on, both of his parents dead in front of him, but he didn't really make it feel like he saw that; and that "scream" of his at the end was ... just lol; I know he's a man, but ... I would have screamed my lungs out if I were him;
-also I pity poor George =/... and I think him screaming would have ended the episode nicely; too bad they didn't do that :P.
-also the music in the episode was quite nice

I think it was a very good episode, well at least from my point of view.

[Alaya]

I believe Higurashi shows 2 episodes per one arc. For Umineko is 5 episodes per one arc so it is a little bit extended.

EDIT: Seems I remember incorrectly for Higu number of episodes.

[felix]

Originally Posted by Alaya

I believe Higurashi shows 2 episodes per one arc. For Umineko is 5 episodes per one arc so it is a little bit extended.

If you don't perceive the breaks it should not matter much though.

[Kimura sensei]

I didn't played the VN, and I really enjoyed this episode.
I give it a 10/10. Now I want to play the VN too.

[vandakiara]

Originally Posted by Kimura sensei

I didn't played the VN, and I really enjoyed this episode.
I give it a 10/10. Now I want to play the VN too.

glad to hear a good opinion on the episode... I'm curious... I'm a VN player myself so I know everything (that's there) but was anything confusing to you in the episode?

[felix]

(since you asked =P)

I didn't play anything and personally I find all this talk of pace and such a little silly.
If we were to presume for a second this was a original story both episodes were fine.

[Kimura sensei]

Originally Posted by vandakiara

glad to hear a good opinion on the episode... I'm curious... I'm a VN player myself so I know everything (that's there) but was anything confusing to you in the episode?

Not really... There was nothing confusing, in my opinion. And this episode was better than the first one.

[lovelysan]

*hugs Cats*

Changing the subject-
The official Umineko.tv site has character relationship charts/ bio's now. Can't really read the bio's but the lines do show who's related to who, and what their ranks in the family is.

(as a side note, I see the word "girlfriend" in Battler's bio. I'm gonna assume it says, "doesn't have one- lol" but I'm curious as to what it says exactly *_* .

[vandakiara]

*hugs Cats and Kimura sensei*

glad to hear that ^^ Myself as a VN player don't really find it too bad... there's this and that that they could've done but overall I'm pretty pleased myself ^^

And lovelysan I can't read the lines myself but I think somewhere it's said that Kyrie

Spoiler for no idea if it's really a spoiler but still...:

isn't Battler's mother but stepmother - and that she's Rudolf's second wife... And that they have a 6 year old daughter who couldn't come because she was sick.

This is all info people were complaining that wasn't in the anime...

And no, Battler doesn't have one

edit: @milkypink: Battler does it as a way of playful communication x)

[milkypink]

Originally Posted by lovelysan

*hugs Cats*

(as a side note, I see the word "girlfriend" in Battler's bio. I'm gonna assume it says, "doesn't have one- lol" but I'm curious as to what it says exactly *_* .

Skimming the bio, I don't see "girlfriend" （彼女）, but I do see "women" （女性）.... something about his perverted nature (inherited from his father) is his way of communicating with women, and that the groping isn't really his goal, but whether or not that's true is suspicious...

whoops now I see it XD and TheForsaken is right, it's just talking about Kyrie.