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Bonzo · 2010-02-19, 10:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solstice Cross

Over the top, guys.

The baby picture with Naoto-kun and Kallen-chan were great, however. It kinda makes me hate Britannia more e__e;

The comic you two mention sound almost done for us to view, I can't wait either. Since Bonzo was the one that drew it, it can't be subpar.

Question: Is this comic paired with R2REmake?

Of course, all my comic appendix paired with the main comic.

~~Arbitres~~ · 2010-02-19, 10:16

As I thought, considering. It'd make sense, because you are quite faithful to the R2REmake. In a way, I aspire towards that kind of faithfulness.

Reading Bonzo's comic makes me all warm and fuzzy inside. Especially during the emotional Kalulu ones It's a wonder how we got on the right boat, stuck with a really talented artist (The boat is called the SS Kalulu.)

I'll remove my sycophancy at the moment.

Paladinoras · 2010-02-19, 10:55

Bonzo's comics are one of the reasons I still stay in this board.

On a side note: who likes my siggy? XDDD

azul120 · 2010-02-19, 11:33

Kind of speaking to the choir here, but given that I just added it under the TVTropes entry, I wanted to ask for the sake of accuracy, as it were: could Kallen be considered a Broken Bird because of her backstory?

~~Arbitres~~ · 2010-02-19, 12:52

Broken bird? Dude, there is nothing broken about her. But she does break things. Like Knightmares, she is really good at breaking knightmares

I don't know the saying 'broken bird'. But I have to guess it means she is in need of maintenance. Thats all I really know.

Let's see... She is definitely no blue jay, because she is 1) red, and 2) knows how to fly. So.. yeah

Serious: In a way, she could be considered one, Since her backstory revolves around the death of her brother, Naoto-kun... She can be considered one, yes.

Also, remember about her family troubles. Her mother, and her step-mother being problems as well.

I hope that cleared stuff up,

?

bladeofdarkness · 2010-02-19, 12:58

not really
simply having a tragic background is not enough on its own, and kallen simply doesn't fit
too emotional and too idealistic for the role
a broken bird tends to be far more cynical
just look at the way her eyes light up when Lelouch makes her commander of his personal unit, and you'll get my meaning

C.C is a pretty good example though
but Kallen isn't really it
badass with a tragic past ?
definitely
but not a broken bird

azul120 · 2010-02-19, 13:04

She is at the very beginning though. Remember how she thought of killing Shirley at one moment early on? Meeting Zero, and learning what she is capable of as a member of the Black Knights after the Lake Kawaguchi incident makes her a Defrosting Ice Queen.

ETA: Not to mention of course that before Lelouch serendipitously showed up in episode 1, she was ready to die on the battlefield.

~~Arbitres~~ · 2010-02-19, 13:16

Oh my. Bladeofdarkness pointed out the logical stuff, again. Saves me from explaining, atleasr.

He pointed out a good deal, and I wouldn't even think of kallen as an 'Ice queen'. She is definitely no Skadi. She is a valkyrie.

She is the girl with repressed passion because of her past, she fights a hopeless battle until zero comes along.

During the assignment of the Guren and Zero Squad, she was just another member. But when she was pointed out as the elite, she felt purpose and meaning. Like she had expectations to achieve besides avenging Naoto-kun.

If anything, Kallen was systemically changed throughout the entire series by Lelouch/Zero

azul120 · 2010-02-19, 13:33

She still lacked hope, even if it was simply latent. She was going to die with no hope of changing things for the better or honoring her mother or dead brother's memory before Lelouch came along. And I wasn't so much calling her an "Ice Queen" as I was using the trope to describe the process she was going through.

Not to mention that Broken Bird isn't so much a strictly hope or will to fight on shattered trope as it is also an innocence brutally shattered trope. At least IMO. Not to mention that Broken Bird is the distaff counterpart to Troubled But Cute.

Bonzo · 2010-02-19, 15:06

In the wait of new comic, I'll update this one, with some art correction and text fixed, this appendix is directly connected with the new one, the event is about 30 minutes before.

Two days are passed from Lelouch's death, Nunnally visit his fake grave together with Cornelia and Kallen, but there's some tension in the air....

http://sabrinaonline.altervista.org/...n25.09enga.jpg
http://sabrinaonline.altervista.org/...n25.09engb.jpg

The grave must be fixed too. Lelouch is born in 1999.

Lost Cause · 2010-02-19, 23:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solstice Cross

W-whoa, LC is more hot-blooded then usual to see child Kallen.

Why?

-looks at Bonzo's art- Question answered, now allow me to defect to Lost Causes' side as I worship the absolute cuteness and resolve that is Kallen.

I've seen the picture on CG, by the way, so there are several differences to it.

-sigh- I wonder what Naoto would've thought of Zero? No matter that, would he be as good as his cute lil' sister in a KMF?

...We will never know, but Kallen is certainly making the point they made a huge mistake by occupying japan.

I hate to say I told ya so but I did, didn't I?! Oh and that lovely young man Naoto-sama oh my the things I would like to do with HIM! Gotta go take a cold shower!

Lost Cause · 2010-02-19, 23:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonzo

This is a art from the new comic:

Kallen and her brother:

AWWW!! Their ADORABLE! Reminds me of my two kids!
Bonzo I bow to your genius you are truly a master! KUDOS!

Paladinoras · 2010-02-20, 00:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonzo

In the wait of new comic, I'll update this one, with some art correction and text fixed, this appendix is directly connected with the new one, the event is about 30 minutes before.

Two days are passed from Lelouch's death, Nunnally visit his fake grave together with Cornelia and Kallen, but there's some tension in the air....

http://sabrinaonline.altervista.org/...n25.09enga.jpg
http://sabrinaonline.altervista.org/...n25.09engb.jpg

The grave must be fixed too. Lelouch is born in 1999.

Touching...in a way.

Lost Cause · 2010-02-20, 00:08

"Broken Bird"? Well maybe at first but once Zero(Lelouch) gives her the precious gift of hope she steels her resolve and digs in for the long haul.

azul120 · 2010-02-20, 01:42

Yeah, that's essentially where I'm going with the description, as part of her backstory.

~~Arbitres~~ · 2010-02-20, 06:16

Holy shite everyone is hot-blooded today! Even Lost Cause, whom I mistook for quiet and resolving. Oh dear, even me.

Ironic how we all gather on this day to worship Kallen and her brother. Let us bow our head to them, in acknowledging them. I pray: Brave new World. Amen.

Religiously speaking of course, I could follow Knightrunner-san's example and give my friends really epic Kallen piccies >

Bonzo · 2010-02-20, 10:03

And now the new story, after the vist at Lelouch's grave...Kallen, wounded, dead beast and emotionally unstable want close her last question with her family.

http://sabrinaonline.altervista.org/...rn25.1enga.jpg
http://sabrinaonline.altervista.org/...rn25.1engb.jpg
http://sabrinaonline.altervista.org/...rn25.1engc.jpg
http://sabrinaonline.altervista.org/...rn25.1engd.jpg
http://sabrinaonline.altervista.org/...rn25.1enge.jpg
http://sabrinaonline.altervista.org/...rn25.1engf.jpg
http://sabrinaonline.altervista.org/...rn25.1engg.jpg

Good fun!

Paladinoras · 2010-02-20, 11:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonzo

And now the new story, after the vist at Lelouch's grave...Kallen, wounded, dead beast and emotionally unstable want close her last question with her family.

http://sabrinaonline.altervista.org/...rn25.1enga.jpg
http://sabrinaonline.altervista.org/...rn25.1engb.jpg
http://sabrinaonline.altervista.org/...rn25.1engc.jpg
http://sabrinaonline.altervista.org/...rn25.1engd.jpg
http://sabrinaonline.altervista.org/...rn25.1enge.jpg
http://sabrinaonline.altervista.org/...rn25.1engf.jpg
http://sabrinaonline.altervista.org/...rn25.1engg.jpg

Good fun!

Great job.

And looks like Daddy Stadtfeld is a nice guy. XD

Bonzo · 2010-02-20, 12:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paladinoras

Great job.

And looks like Daddy Stadtfeld is a nice guy. XD

They never said he was a bad guy, anime, manga, etc, then...

~~Arbitres~~ · 2010-02-20, 13:13

Quite, here I was expecting him to be similiar to Rohmeyer. Looks like I expected wrong.

I sent the message with my judging opinion

By the way, it was quite positive.

I can feel for Lelouch

him being blind. I have over 200 vision, which is dubbed 'legally blind'. Though it wasn't a real bad trade-off for him, he is intelligent enough to learn braile in no time, and he has the best caretaker.

FYI: The kids were cute, Naoto and Shirley~~ Such nice names, hmm?

Pfft... Luluko xD

2010-02-19, 10:55	Link #22643
Paladinoras Pancakes Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: In Your House. No, really, look properly.	Bonzo's comics are one of the reasons I still stay in this board. On a side note: who likes my siggy? XDDD __________________ Credit to Godlike1889 for the sig!

2010-02-19, 12:58	Link #22646
bladeofdarkness Um-Shmum Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: at GNR, bringing you the truth, no matter how bad it hurts Age: 39	not really simply having a tragic background is not enough on its own, and kallen simply doesn't fit too emotional and too idealistic for the role a broken bird tends to be far more cynical just look at the way her eyes light up when Lelouch makes her commander of his personal unit, and you'll get my meaning C.C is a pretty good example though but Kallen isn't really it badass with a tragic past ? definitely but not a broken bird __________________

2010-02-19, 13:33	Link #22649
azul120 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008	She still lacked hope, even if it was simply latent. She was going to die with no hope of changing things for the better or honoring her mother or dead brother's memory before Lelouch came along. And I wasn't so much calling her an "Ice Queen" as I was using the trope to describe the process she was going through. Not to mention that Broken Bird isn't so much a strictly hope or will to fight on shattered trope as it is also an innocence brutally shattered trope. At least IMO. Not to mention that Broken Bird is the distaff counterpart to Troubled But Cute. Last edited by azul120; 2010-02-19 at 13:44.

2010-02-20, 10:03	Link #22657
Bonzo I change anime endings. Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Italy Age: 46	And now the new story, after the vist at Lelouch's grave...Kallen, wounded, dead beast and emotionally unstable want close her last question with her family. http://sabrinaonline.altervista.org/...rn25.1enga.jpg http://sabrinaonline.altervista.org/...rn25.1engb.jpg http://sabrinaonline.altervista.org/...rn25.1engc.jpg http://sabrinaonline.altervista.org/...rn25.1engd.jpg http://sabrinaonline.altervista.org/...rn25.1enge.jpg http://sabrinaonline.altervista.org/...rn25.1engf.jpg http://sabrinaonline.altervista.org/...rn25.1engg.jpg Good fun! Last edited by Bonzo; 2010-02-20 at 10:30.

2010-02-19, 10:16	Link #22642
~~Arbitres~~ Disabled By Request Join Date: Jan 2010	As I thought, considering. It'd make sense, because you are quite faithful to the R2REmake. In a way, I aspire towards that kind of faithfulness. Reading Bonzo's comic makes me all warm and fuzzy inside. Especially during the emotional Kalulu ones It's a wonder how we got on the right boat, stuck with a really talented artist (The boat is called the SS Kalulu.) I'll remove my sycophancy at the moment.

2010-02-19, 11:33	Link #22644
azul120 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008	Kind of speaking to the choir here, but given that I just added it under the TVTropes entry, I wanted to ask for the sake of accuracy, as it were: could Kallen be considered a Broken Bird because of her backstory?

2010-02-19, 12:52	Link #22645
~~Arbitres~~ Disabled By Request Join Date: Jan 2010	Broken bird? Dude, there is nothing broken about her. But she does break things. Like Knightmares, she is really good at breaking knightmares I don't know the saying 'broken bird'. But I have to guess it means she is in need of maintenance. Thats all I really know. Let's see... She is definitely no blue jay, because she is 1) red, and 2) knows how to fly. So.. yeah Serious: In a way, she could be considered one, Since her backstory revolves around the death of her brother, Naoto-kun... She can be considered one, yes. Also, remember about her family troubles. Her mother, and her step-mother being problems as well. I hope that cleared stuff up, ?

2010-02-19, 13:04	Link #22647
azul120 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008	She is at the very beginning though. Remember how she thought of killing Shirley at one moment early on? Meeting Zero, and learning what she is capable of as a member of the Black Knights after the Lake Kawaguchi incident makes her a Defrosting Ice Queen. ETA: Not to mention of course that before Lelouch serendipitously showed up in episode 1, she was ready to die on the battlefield.

2010-02-19, 13:16	Link #22648
~~Arbitres~~ Disabled By Request Join Date: Jan 2010	Oh my. Bladeofdarkness pointed out the logical stuff, again. Saves me from explaining, atleasr. He pointed out a good deal, and I wouldn't even think of kallen as an 'Ice queen'. She is definitely no Skadi. She is a valkyrie. She is the girl with repressed passion because of her past, she fights a hopeless battle until zero comes along. During the assignment of the Guren and Zero Squad, she was just another member. But when she was pointed out as the elite, she felt purpose and meaning. Like she had expectations to achieve besides avenging Naoto-kun. If anything, Kallen was systemically changed throughout the entire series by Lelouch/Zero

2010-02-19, 15:06	Link #22650
Bonzo I change anime endings. Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Italy Age: 46	In the wait of new comic, I'll update this one, with some art correction and text fixed, this appendix is directly connected with the new one, the event is about 30 minutes before. Two days are passed from Lelouch's death, Nunnally visit his fake grave together with Cornelia and Kallen, but there's some tension in the air.... http://sabrinaonline.altervista.org/...n25.09enga.jpg http://sabrinaonline.altervista.org/...n25.09engb.jpg The grave must be fixed too. Lelouch is born in 1999.

2010-02-20, 00:08	Link #22654
Lost Cause Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Virginia Age: 46	"Broken Bird"? Well maybe at first but once Zero(Lelouch) gives her the precious gift of hope she steels her resolve and digs in for the long haul.

2010-02-20, 01:42	Link #22655
azul120 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008	Yeah, that's essentially where I'm going with the description, as part of her backstory.

2010-02-20, 06:16	Link #22656
~~Arbitres~~ Disabled By Request Join Date: Jan 2010	Holy shite everyone is hot-blooded today! Even Lost Cause, whom I mistook for quiet and resolving. Oh dear, even me. Ironic how we all gather on this day to worship Kallen and her brother. Let us bow our head to them, in acknowledging them. I pray: Brave new World. Amen. Religiously speaking of course, I could follow Knightrunner-san's example and give my friends really epic Kallen piccies >

2010-02-20, 13:13	Link #22660
~~Arbitres~~ Disabled By Request Join Date: Jan 2010	Quite, here I was expecting him to be similiar to Rohmeyer. Looks like I expected wrong. I sent the message with my judging opinion By the way, it was quite positive. I can feel for Lelouch him being blind. I have over 200 vision, which is dubbed 'legally blind'. Though it wasn't a real bad trade-off for him, he is intelligent enough to learn braile in no time, and he has the best caretaker. FYI: The kids were cute, Naoto and Shirley~~ Such nice names, hmm? Pfft... Luluko xD