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kakakka · 2013-03-03, 11:22

that last scene reminds me of that game with Netero on the airship

Maxtro · 2013-03-03, 12:08

Wow, Ging is a horrible person.

"My son may try to find me. If you see him in ten years. Try to kill him."

Dextro · 2013-03-03, 12:34

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Originally Posted by Maxtro

Wow, Ging is a horrible person.

"My son may try to find me. If you see him in ten years. Try to kill him."

To be fair Ging only asked that his friends not go easy on Gon just because he was his kid. I find that perfectly normal. Harsh but normal...

Maxtro · 2013-03-03, 13:20

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Originally Posted by Dextro

To be fair Ging only asked that his friends not go easy on Gon just because he was his kid. I find that perfectly normal. Harsh but normal...

LOL, I understand Ging not wanting his friends to go easy on him. But Razor's throw was intended to kill Gon. If Gon screwed up with the block he would have died.

"Hey Ging, it's Razor."
"Hey whats up dude?"
"I killed your son with a dodgeball. He didn't catch the ball and his head exploded."
"Nah, that's cool. Want to get a beer? I'm going to land my giant flying monster in a bit."

Anh_Minh · 2013-03-03, 13:30

Maybe "He wasn't even able to catch a ball? I knew he wasn't mine."

Or "That'll teach him to sue for child suppport!"

Dengar · 2013-03-03, 13:39

You're looking at it the wrong way. The reason Ging told Razor not to hold back was because holding back would be damn insulting.

Anh_Minh · 2013-03-03, 13:40

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Originally Posted by Dengar

You're looking at it the wrong way. The reason Ging told Razor not to hold back was because holding back would be damn insulting.

And not holding back could be damn fatal...

Dengar · 2013-03-03, 13:43

COULD. There is a CHANCE of Gon killing if by some fluke Gon didn't turn out to be strong enough. On the otherhand, if Razor DID hold back, there is 100% chance for it to be insulting.

Does Gon look like he'd enjoy this even half as much if Razor were holding back? You have to take Gon's personality into account here.

garbage · 2013-03-03, 13:44

I think too that Ging knows & believes in Gon enough that he can take it. That any kind of "babying" will only stunt his growth.
I think too that Ging believes in his friend razor & his skill enough to properly set the limits. The greatest Martial Arts masters are the one who can control their strength the best.

ars89 · 2013-03-03, 14:42

Nice like how Ging told Razor not to go easy on Gon. So Hisoka's gum was stopped by combining players, it was an interesting thing to try though. When Gon gets that smile things get heated up, can't wait to see what he does next, but doesn't that mean he's outside right now?

Clarste · 2013-03-03, 18:06

Now that I think about it, if I were Goreinu or Tsezgerra I'd be thinking about coming back without Gon so Razor would go easy on them. The implication is that it's not normally supposed to be this hard to get the card.

AnimeFan188 · 2013-03-03, 18:37

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Originally Posted by Hamster

I don't really remember Hisoka harming any innocents. In the hunter exam and heaven's arena, everyone was legally fair game so that technically doesn't count. He also took the exam so he could become a blacklist hunter and hunt down dangerous criminals.

Also he infiltrated the most dangerous criminal group in the world so he could take a shot at their leader.

Other than looking at Gon's and Kil's asses he hasn't done anything you might consider as villainous.

But back when Hisoka was first introduced, it was mentioned that he was disqualified
from previous hunter exams for *killing* examiners.

He also maimed a person before the exam started by turning his arms into flowers.
Simply because he didn't say "excuse me", or somesuch.

gsilver · 2013-03-03, 21:46

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Originally Posted by AnimeFan188

But back when Hisoka was first introduced, it was mentioned that he was disqualified from previous hunter exams for *killing* examiners.

What chapter was this? I remember him attacking an examiner, but he also didn't expect the attack to work on a real examiner.

ChainLegacy · 2013-03-03, 23:23

The fact that Hisoka's willing to team up with 'our heroes' just for the fun of it shows why he's such a great villain... he truly represents chaos, always a wild card.

Razor must be a super powerful guy for him to create all of these nen devils, especially one that can catch a throw from Hisoka.

As for Ging being a bad father, hey, he pretty much admitted it himself in an earlier episode... At least Gon doesn't seem to mind (or perhaps he prefers it in a strange way?)

Dengar · 2013-03-04, 02:26

See that's what I'm talking about. If you start calling Ging "a horrible person" then you probably don't understand Gon and Ging's relationship.

Anh_Minh · 2013-03-04, 02:33

They don't really have one. Ging abandoned him as a baby, and has had no contact since then. It's not like they built a rapport based on throwing Gon into life threatening situations, like Silva and Killua. For all Ging knows or care, Gon could have grown up wanting to be an accountant.

Clarste · 2013-03-04, 03:52

Ging is a horrible person. He's the kind of person who'd abandon his baby to do what he loves, and then if his kid still attempts to find him anyway throw death traps in his way. While arguably he assumes that any kid who wasn't discouraged by the message would probably appreciate a good challenge, there's still the fact that he doesn't care if his kid lives or dies.

FateAnomaly · 2013-03-04, 07:06

Maybe thats why Gon's mother is no around.

Gin: Hey, my woman wants to play frisbee.
Friends: Sure, no problem.
Gin: No need to go easy on her.
Friends:Ok.

1 min later

Friends: Oops, i think her head came off.
Gin: Hmm, thats bad.... wanna go explore a lost continent in my new dragon?
Friends: Sure, but what about the baby?
Gin: No problem, i will just drop it off at my sister's place.

Dengar · 2013-03-04, 10:44

^Somehow I doubt that's the case.

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Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

They don't really have one. Ging abandoned him as a baby, and has had no contact since then. It's not like they built a rapport based on throwing Gon into life threatening situations, like Silva and Killua. For all Ging knows or care, Gon could have grown up wanting to be an accountant.

Perhaps I shouldn't have used the word 'relationship', but I don't really know a better word for it. There is like, this 'thing' between them. Like, Ging is pursuing something, and Gon is following to find out what this 'something' is. He doesn't resent his father at all, nor does he expect any traditional father-son bonding. That's not what his journey is about.

I would also like to point out, that if Gon wanted to grow up to be an accountant, then he wouldn't have become a Hunter, and would never even have met Razor, so that point is pretty moot.

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there's still the fact that he doesn't care if his kid lives or dies.

Only quoting this part because everything that came before is pretty much factual and true. This part isn't. It's not that he doesn't care, it's that he honestly believes that he won't. Again, you have to look at this from Gon's perspective. Do you really think that Gon would be happy if Razor held back?

vansonbee · 2013-03-04, 12:47

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2013-03-03, 13:44	Link #2509
garbage Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011	I think too that Ging knows & believes in Gon enough that he can take it. That any kind of "babying" will only stunt his growth. I think too that Ging believes in his friend razor & his skill enough to properly set the limits. The greatest Martial Arts masters are the one who can control their strength the best. __________________

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ars89 One-Eyed Dragon Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NJ, USA	Nice like how Ging told Razor not to go easy on Gon. So Hisoka's gum was stopped by combining players, it was an interesting thing to try though. When Gon gets that smile things get heated up, can't wait to see what he does next, but doesn't that mean he's outside right now? __________________ My Anime List

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vansonbee ❤Ichigo 100%❤ Join Date: Jan 2011	Spoiler for Manga page of the recent episode aired and graphic scenes: Hisoka looks so upper class in the bottom panel. Hisoka: Pfft a brain smasher murder move, that is beneath my standards. __________________ MAL

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kakakka Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008	that last scene reminds me of that game with Netero on the airship

2013-03-03, 12:08	Link #2502
Maxtro Super Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: California	Wow, Ging is a horrible person. "My son may try to find me. If you see him in ten years. Try to kill him."

2013-03-03, 13:30	Link #2505
Anh_Minh I disagree with you all. Join Date: Dec 2005	Maybe "He wasn't even able to catch a ball? I knew he wasn't mine." Or "That'll teach him to sue for child suppport!"

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Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	You're looking at it the wrong way. The reason Ging told Razor not to hold back was because holding back would be damn insulting.

2013-03-03, 13:43	Link #2508
Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	COULD. There is a CHANCE of Gon killing if by some fluke Gon didn't turn out to be strong enough. On the otherhand, if Razor DID hold back, there is 100% chance for it to be insulting. Does Gon look like he'd enjoy this even half as much if Razor were holding back? You have to take Gon's personality into account here.

2013-03-03, 18:06	Link #2511
Clarste Human Join Date: Aug 2004 Age: 37	Now that I think about it, if I were Goreinu or Tsezgerra I'd be thinking about coming back without Gon so Razor would go easy on them. The implication is that it's not normally supposed to be this hard to get the card.

2013-03-03, 23:23	Link #2514
ChainLegacy 廉頗 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Massachusetts Age: 34	The fact that Hisoka's willing to team up with 'our heroes' just for the fun of it shows why he's such a great villain... he truly represents chaos, always a wild card. Razor must be a super powerful guy for him to create all of these nen devils, especially one that can catch a throw from Hisoka. As for Ging being a bad father, hey, he pretty much admitted it himself in an earlier episode... At least Gon doesn't seem to mind (or perhaps he prefers it in a strange way?)

2013-03-04, 02:26	Link #2515
Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	See that's what I'm talking about. If you start calling Ging "a horrible person" then you probably don't understand Gon and Ging's relationship.

2013-03-04, 02:33	Link #2516
Anh_Minh I disagree with you all. Join Date: Dec 2005	They don't really have one. Ging abandoned him as a baby, and has had no contact since then. It's not like they built a rapport based on throwing Gon into life threatening situations, like Silva and Killua. For all Ging knows or care, Gon could have grown up wanting to be an accountant.

2013-03-04, 03:52	Link #2517
Clarste Human Join Date: Aug 2004 Age: 37	Ging is a horrible person. He's the kind of person who'd abandon his baby to do what he loves, and then if his kid still attempts to find him anyway throw death traps in his way. While arguably he assumes that any kid who wasn't discouraged by the message would probably appreciate a good challenge, there's still the fact that he doesn't care if his kid lives or dies.

2013-03-04, 07:06	Link #2518
FateAnomaly Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007	Maybe thats why Gon's mother is no around. Gin: Hey, my woman wants to play frisbee. Friends: Sure, no problem. Gin: No need to go easy on her. Friends:Ok. 1 min later Friends: Oops, i think her head came off. Gin: Hmm, thats bad.... wanna go explore a lost continent in my new dragon? Friends: Sure, but what about the baby? Gin: No problem, i will just drop it off at my sister's place.