I don't want to continue this discussion here, because it is fit more for Touma thread, but i could not resist to reply.
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Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen
...You know, power of his right hand means the force or strength it produced =_=
F=MA?
I'll address this again, so what? It doesn't change his situation as a borderline student in a society that judges people on their academics. Sure he defeated the strongest esper, but only a hand full of people know about that, was he somehow raised to a higher social status? No. He went back to his normal life and force to go through homework and struggling grades. Does Aleister's protection get him into a better school? Better living conditions? No. Hell, it doesn't even protect him from a group of thugs!
That was what Skill-Out was whining about, that they are looked down upon by people, and they use that to justify their attacks on Espers. If all they do is hurt people, then of course everybody would look down on them. What? You think they're the only disposable people? THere are tons of Level 0s that doesn't have Aleister's protection to live their normal lives instead of hurting people.
THen you ask yourself, why did they become disposable? They could have lived longer lives, but they instead chose to conduct this operation in the middle of open war with the Church, risking the lives of innocent civilians for their goals. They've sealed their own fate, they made themselves disposable.
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Sry if i sounded like i was puting him in the same category as those level 0 deliquents, but my intention was the exact opposite.
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Originally Posted by I_am_Kami
Just cuz he does amazing stuff like that doesn't make him powerful. I=His IB is convenient. Its like Luffy from one piece. How the hell does a rubberband man beat Enel, one of the strongest Characters in One piece? Cuz he is conveniently made of rubber.
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(i Don't watch one piece so i wont comment on that)
He can be anything but not powerless. Some facts : you can't have a power that is effective against everything and can do anything, because that would be the most hax thing possible, aka the god power. Meaning that EVERY power has some sort of drawbacks, weaknesses and thinghts it just CAN'T do. Take as an example a kinetic field made by telekinesis, it sure can block punches, bullets and all other sorts of physical attacks, but it is COMPLETLY ineffective agains temperature, electricity, radiation... See, Touma's power also has thinghts it can block and thinghts it can't, it's just the way the power works. I hope that we both agree at this point, that imagine breaker is a POWER like any other, with it's good and bad points.
And now how to measure a power - we have basically 3 types of power - offensive, defensive, supportive (or combinations of them) and each of them is measured differently. Most people follow the offensive type and measure the power by "how much dmg it can do", but tends to forget, that defensive powers are measured by "how much it can stop" and supportive by "how much it can help". IMPORTANT note here :
in AC, esper levels and their powers are ALSO measured by this formula. Meaning if you have a defensive type power, like nitrogen armor, you are measured by how much you can block by it. And i think, all would agree, if i say that Touma's power is completly defensive power (with some supportive effects) and thus should be measured by how much he can block/dispel/cancel with it. And with that, we can clearly say, his power is strong, which makes him, as the wielder of that power, also strong.
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