2012-06-14, 15:39 | Link #9481 |
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So...people can't express their own opinions and make their own speculations?
And being a "true fan" of an author means you can't have negative opinions? ooc: Not trolling or instigating anything before you jump the gun, just trying to understand the post... |
2012-06-14, 15:47 | Link #9483 |
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I'm not saying you can't have negative opinions. You can. I do, too. What I clearly say there is, it's not really okay to call someone a bad writer without even having seen the big picture. Sure, share your opinions and speculations, but don't go calling everything you don't fancy a bad writing decision.
I'm especially bitter about Wolfenstein, since he was the one trying to convince people that Zenkichi's altered god mode wasn't an asspull and it wasn't bad writing, while now he is saying Nisio is a bad writer/made too many bad decisions this chapter simply because the things he wanted for Emukae didn't happen. I don't claim to be a true Nisio fan and as I said, a true fan can have negative opinions. However, they at least should be reserved enough to not jump the gun and talk pages and pages making ever growing numbers of assumptions based on a single chapter—and it's very last page nonetheless.
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2012-06-14, 16:04 | Link #9484 | |
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In my honest opinion I believe that some decisions made this chapter were bad, sure I can't deny that a part of me is a bit biased. I am a huge Emukae fan and I feel she got cheated this chapter but will this be redeemed later on? I don't know, but I reacted to this chapter. That's what happens in weekly releases, people can't help reacting to the content of the recent chapter. Unlike in books for example where you can read whole volumes at a time, people are limited to the information of the chapter and can't but speculate. Some speculations turn out true, some turn out horribly wrong...it happens. I also love Kumagawa, but that doesn't stop me from feeling like bringing him in right now was a bad decision and the way they brought him was even worst. Others may not believe this to be true, more power to them, if they can enjoy the chapter I didn't then cool, at least someone had fun with it. It's all about personal opinions. True that at times certain discussions can get too heated, that sometimes people will try to force their own ideals and opinions on others but that's, unfortunately, how humans work. But at times, people just like to point their own opinions out, they just like to come in, post their own opinions and see if someone shares them or doesn't agree with them. I see no harm in that, it's not insulting to anyone, especially the author. The problem arises when someone reads the opinions of others, doesn't agree and makes a personal competition of it all. |
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2012-06-14, 16:31 | Link #9487 |
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Like I said. After read everything you guys wrote I understand better this ch. And even why he bring Kumagawa (even if I still think Nisio have much better way to do so) the problem is...can they really work a team like you say in another post?
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2012-06-14, 16:39 | Link #9488 | |||
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Also remembering that chapter who else still LOLs at the nurses Horror, and Kumagawa`s lack of mercy at the time. Well he did say he would allow her to keep on the nurses cap! Quote:
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2012-06-14, 16:49 | Link #9490 | |
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Though the most hilarious thing about the whole issue is, Kugurugi already used her battle style. |
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2012-06-14, 17:25 | Link #9491 | |
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Oh, my. This thread grew by more than three pages since my last visit.
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I understand that it's a massive piece of speculation, but I don't think it doesn't make sense. Kumagawa is a walking retcon after all.
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2012-06-14, 17:30 | Link #9492 |
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My theory is that the nerfed All Fiction cannot "All Fiction" intangibles such as sight and effects of Devils Style.
Rather it is now limited to "All Fiction'ng" tangibles such as nerves connecting eyes and brain to remove eyesight.
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2012-06-14, 17:56 | Link #9494 | |||||||
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Then Naze stated it herself, and I just knew it wasn't going to sit right with me. Quote:
Not what I'd consider a good thing to do with her character, I mean, aside from all the Medaka gloryfing he's still doing, and I don't know why. Quote:
Plus, her wording: 'Sadly, it dosen't work on me' does make it sound simply like the skill just won't work on her. And if she's immune to rotting the very air, well, I don't know what to say. Quote:
However, there's reason to believe that he'd eventually win, given that he's probably got the absolute best stamina ever, or can just turn that into nothing. Not to mention that his attacks are obviously no joke. But we'll see. I only said there's now way he'll lose, not that he'll 1-on-1 the Suitor. Quote:
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Meanwhile, Kumagawa showing up out of nowhere, with absolutely zero foreshadowing, and this: Spoiler:
All leads people to believe he was imprisioned. Which is why his appeareance was basically one huge troll. It dosen't even need to be called ass-pull since he clearly did it to not have Emukae die, that's not what's bothering anyone, even though Kumagawa's appereance is pretty distracting. The problem is his writting of Emukae's character development is extremely flawed, and he used Kumagawa as a means to keep that active. Or, the other option. He wanted a reason to re-introduce Kumagawa. Which ultimately led him to mischaracterize how Emukae was chapters ago, and give her some new-found adoration for the perfect Medaka, whom she now wants to be like. Clearly, Nishio has not read Naruto recently. Either way, I see both as pretty bad writting. If you don't like that opinion, you're free to try and challenge it. Quote:
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2012-06-14, 17:59 | Link #9495 | |
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From my perspective, Medaka Box is just as meta as it ever was, even with the inclusion of Devil Style.
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2012-06-14, 18:05 | Link #9496 | |
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More like a guess or prediction since I was wondering how the All Fiction would be not be as unlimited* or dangerous* as before. * What was the term Ajimu used when describing All Fiction is as no more like?
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2012-06-14, 18:09 | Link #9497 |
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Look, if I read another comment about N****o in this thread... Don't dare to compare that shitty writer or the other shitty one with Nisio who plans things one year ahead.
With that having been said, will you Wolfenstein learn to not jump the bandwagon so hastily and wait till next week so we can get answers? Please. |
2012-06-14, 18:13 | Link #9498 | |
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As far as I remember it, negating abilities was well within All Fiction's reach, so I'll stick to that. If it was nerfed, I'll just wait to see exactly how it was nerfed.
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2012-06-14, 18:15 | Link #9500 | ||
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However, If you mean, jumping on my own bandwagon, since I, alone, came to the conclusion that the content in this chapter was crap, I really don't know how that's possible. And it's no lie that the contents shown on this chapter right now were of, subjectively, low quality to some people, which leads one to compare to to, subjectively, higher quality work. I'm comparing a plot-point both explored, I believe one did it wrongly while the other did it badly. Quote:
And If he couldn't do that to another Minus, chances are it's not going to work on a Zero. |
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