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isak · 2012-06-23, 03:30

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Originally Posted by neco411

Finaly finished vol 5 of the light novel and the ranking battle at the end was really infuriating...

1. All those restrictions where prety much directed to Rias' group so how the hell can you call that a fair fight. Thats giving a huge handicap for the other group to exploit. Honestly if I was the openent I would refuse to fight with such lopsided conditions... how could you ever feel good about winning with that inequality.

2. The worst offence was Ise being defeated by Saji's ability. The author basicaly had to break the rules of his own universe to make that happen... it was crearly stated that in the fight with the Phenex team that any ability or spell used set by a defeated player would vanish once that person was defeated and forced to leave the playing field... so how the hell did Saji's bility persist past his deafeat? Thats totaly a rip off and a lame way to remove Ise from the match.

1. Had to placate Serafall so I'm not shocked those rules were there, can't have Rias's massacre them in a few minutes flat which would have happened with no rules and have serafall attack Rias cause of Sona getting beat so easily.

2. In volume 4 life 3 Azazel mentions that absorbstion line can be REMOVED from the gear for a short time. An hour at most passes between battle and issei kicking the bucket. That's not much time now is it!!

neco411 · 2012-06-23, 13:50

Even then the limitation on Gasper is unjust, sure he has problems controling his freezing abiltity but since its only on things he can see using him would create an impenatrable wall. Just stick him in a coridor and keep him pointed towards the enemy. His time freeze does not damage or detroy the soroundings so theres no point to tie both his hands. The fight just felt so much like the Phenex fight in the nature on the unfairness of it. This is prety much what happens in the next rating game which ends up becoming a terrorist attack... Gasper uses his freeze ability along with Ise and they prety much wipe out half the oponents withought them even being able to lift a finger to counter.

As for his teather and Vitra, Saji does not get his curse ability or Vitra until a book or two later when Azezel combines all the Vitra items into his body and revives Vitra in his sacred gear. As for emotions I think thats a bit of BS, basicaly your saying the other players resolution to battle are garbage and their just not up to par. Lets just take the battle with Phenex where the point that abilities disapear when the player is removed from the playing field, Kiba used his sword birth on Ise who boosted it and deafeated 1/4 of Pehenex evil peices but after Kiba was defeated it all disapeared. In that instance all the Rias' team was prety pumped up and determined since they knew what was on the line, and even then Ise was so determined that his Boosted Gear even evolved and applied all the power and spirit into gifting the sword birth. After the ability was over its also no longer connected to Kiba, its a seperate entity from him at this point. I'm still firmly on its a plot flaw on the the writers part.

Its also mentioned that the rating games are held in a diferent dimention (Why causing overwelming and colateral damage is ok in these places)... if your removed from the dimention and returned to the real world it would make sence that you can not maintain an ability across a dimentional barrier, that and their more or less past out when your loose in combat.

Yes Ise uses his mind reading ability later on but those are not rating games but actuall life and death combats. Rias does give him permision to use it in those cases. Its still a huge loss in a rating game. If a faction forfeits cause it chooses not to fight because the openent posess an overwelming ability then it would still count as their loss in rating game standings. Ise's new ability does not strip them naked like Dress Break does so its not like hes exposing them publibly.. mind you he still uses dress break a lot. Point is if their going to forfeit it makes more sence on the dress break ability then a mind reading ability if your only talking about being exposed.

fazri · 2012-06-26, 22:26

thanks for the translation who ever the one who working on the vol 5.

but i want ask where the picture on when koneko down with showing her cat tail and ear?

sky black swordman · 2012-06-26, 23:32

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Originally Posted by fazri

thanks for the translation who ever the one who working on the vol 5.

but i want ask where the picture on when koneko down with showing her cat tail and ear?

That would be Eternal Dreamer and if you mean where does that pic goes, well that goes at the end of life 2

zzhk · 2012-07-12, 09:59

If anyone is interested, I did a quick summary of the Ophis side story in the Social Group.

A fun little story with Church Trio antics, more glimpses at the Student Council characters, and Rias playing matchmaker, to mention a few highlights.

As usual, Akeno has some of the best lines.

ccie20012 · 2012-07-12, 13:44

@zzhk
Thanks.!!

Spoiler for 12.5:

G147 · 2012-08-25, 22:43

@ccie20012
I agree on that.
Well from the way Ophis describes the Occult Research Club is actually quite accurate especially for this [The cheap silver-haired older sister with poor character].

Chelydra · 2012-08-25, 22:54

That Ophis chapter was epic. And Asia totally got the shaft in that speech. A blonde sister. Akeno did well in that speech too

Nihgthawk · 2012-08-25, 23:51

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Originally Posted by Chelydra

That Ophis chapter was epic. And Asia totally got the shaft in that speech. A blonde sister. Akeno did well in that speech too

I think she meant sister as in a Nun thou who knows.

n0m@n · 2012-09-12, 06:00

Information from volume 13

Spoiler for Volume 13:

Akumasama · 2012-09-12, 06:10

Congrats on getting the volume ^^. Thanks for the info, nom.

Spoiler:

n0m@n · 2012-09-12, 06:42

I thought I would get it on friday because amiami didnt send me a email. But I realised there was a ship notification sent to the spam box lol.

Akumasama · 2012-09-12, 07:47

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Originally Posted by n0m@n

I thought I would get it on friday because amiami didnt send me a email. But I realised there was a ship notification sent to the spam box lol.

I was wondering about that lol, any chance of taking pictures of the illustrations and uploading them?

aswad · 2012-09-12, 08:05

@Nooom tank you for da all hard work

Richocet · 2012-09-12, 08:09

Thanx n0m@n

Spoiler:

NeutralZero · 2012-09-12, 08:51

Thanks...
And it's kinda amazing that from second to the fifth place were occupied by Hindu Gods...

blade82 · 2012-09-12, 09:29

thanx n0m@n but about vol.14 i tought it'll be centered around the magician and the vampire so Gaspar instead of Ravel

willx · 2012-09-12, 09:41

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Originally Posted by blade82

thanx n0m@n but about vol.14 i tought it'll be centered around the magician and the vampire so Gaspar instead of Ravel

Hm.. it seems like Ravel will be the main heroine for volume 14, but this next "arc" is magician and vampire arc? Or maybe they just decided to completely ignore what they wrote in V14's afterword?

I was hoping that we'd get some focus on Xenovia and Rossweise :<

XFire · 2012-09-12, 10:02

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Originally Posted by n0m@n

Information from volume 13

Spoiler for Volume 13:

.... plenty of cool stuff in there, but something sort of stopped me part-way through.

Indra is five!?! I though he was like two or something.

JAGI_X · 2012-09-12, 10:05

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Originally Posted by n0m@n

Information from volume 13

Spoiler for Volume 13:

So Sirzechs realize that his son now is growing up but he will not be mad at Issei right.

2012-06-26, 22:26	Link #223
fazri blacksun king Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: jakarta,indonesia	thanks for the translation who ever the one who working on the vol 5. but i want ask where the picture on when koneko down with showing her cat tail and ear? __________________

2012-07-12, 09:59	Link #225
zzhk Summary Machine Join Date: Apr 2011	If anyone is interested, I did a quick summary of the Ophis side story in the Social Group. A fun little story with Church Trio antics, more glimpses at the Student Council characters, and Rias playing matchmaker, to mention a few highlights. As usual, Akeno has some of the best lines. __________________ Light Novel Translations C3 - Cube x Cursed x Curious Chronicle Legion Leviathan of the Covenant Seirei Tsukai no Blade Dance

2012-07-12, 13:44	Link #226
ccie20012 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012	@zzhk Thanks.!! Spoiler for 12.5: I am pleased that the author has found a suitable position for Ophis. The red-haired mama with huge breasts and the perverted looking papa - it's so cute.

2012-08-25, 22:54	Link #228
Chelydra Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012	That Ophis chapter was epic. And Asia totally got the shaft in that speech. A blonde sister. Akeno did well in that speech too __________________ Set by Ceria

2012-09-12, 06:00	Link #230
n0m@n C-Z Join Date: Jan 2011	Information from volume 13 Spoiler for Volume 13: Sirzechs's Team It's stated in the novel several times that Sirzechs's team are the strongest. And volume 13 reveals the remaining of Sirzechs's team. Note: There are no Sacred Gear possessors in his group. King: Sirzechs - The strongest Maou Queen: Grayfia - The strongest [Queen] Rook 1(Mutation): Surtr Second The ultimate Rook. He is the clone of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surtr%20%20 from the Norse Mythology. He is described to be a very huge man with massive muscles. The Norse Gods made a clone of Surtr, but it went berserk so the Norse Gods abandoned him. Then Sirzechs made him into his servant by using his mutation Rook piece. Since he is a clone, he was named the Second. If he was able to use his power properly, its said that he could have defeated Jabberwocky. His flame is said to burn everything. Rook 2: Bahamut It mainly is used for transport and also to annihilate grunts. It's also strong by itself. Bishop (2 Pieces) : Macgregor Mathers He is an expert it using magics. He can use all kinds of magics. Knight (2 Pieces): Okita Souji Kiba's master and also one of the best swordsman in the underworld. He met Sirzechs when he did many ritual to avoid dieing from a disease. He met Sirzechs by accidentally summoning him. Because he did too much rituals and such, his body became like a nest of youkai. So he's like a chimera like thing. So he can have many youkai come from his body. Pawn 1(Unknown number of pawn piece used): Enku He appeared on volume 8. Pawn 2(Unknown number of pawn piece used): Beowulf Descendant of the hero Beowulf. He is said to be in the Top 5 Pawns of the Underworld. He became Sirzechs's servant after battling him and losing against him. He's picked on by other Sizechs's servants and is treated like a lackey. The Top 10 Strongest in DxD World In no particular order the following are the among the Top 10 strongest. -Ophis. -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiva%20%20 -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vishnu -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahma -Sakra(Indra) -Thor -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typhon (Also Fenrir) -Hades -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aten -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lugh Note: It's said that if Sirzechs and Ajuka were to show their true form, they would be placed among the Top 10. Brave-Saints The four Great Seraph are the Kings of respective cards. Michael is Spade. Gabriel is Heart. Raphael is Club. Uriel is Diamond. Brave-Saints also has special many special effects which comes from actual card games like poker and black jack. A Joker doesnt belong to any of the 4 types of cards. Ise's Familiar Ise receives a familiar from Surtr Second in Extra Life. Its the legendary ship http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sk%C3%A...la%C3%B0nir%20 Skithblathnir. It was created by the tribe called Ívaldi　who also created Thor's Mjölnir. Its a small ship first, but will grow with the masters(in this case Ise) power. Second suggest Ise that he can make a harem ship with it. Extra Life: The extra life of volume 13 wasnt good as volume 8 one. Though it revealed quite a lot of things. Millicas comes to Hyoudou residence and lives with them. He has a mock battle against Ise, Kiba, and Gasper. Despite losing to them, his power is extraordinary and his talent is said to be the same as that of Vali by Ise. During his stay Sirzechs's servants comes to see how Millicas is doing and also so they can be his bodyguard. Though later Grayfia stops them. Millicas wants to make a team like his father in the future. Though Sirzechs asks him whether he likes Satan-Red or Oppai-Dragon, where Millicas says Oppai-dragon. This made Sirzechs sad, and became sad when he see's Ise and Millicas getting along. At the end, Ise calls him Millicas instead of Millicas-sama. Also volume 14 is going to be Ravel's volume. I think Vali's team has more famous people than Sirzechs's team. __________________

2012-06-23, 13:50	Link #222
neco411 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2012	Even then the limitation on Gasper is unjust, sure he has problems controling his freezing abiltity but since its only on things he can see using him would create an impenatrable wall. Just stick him in a coridor and keep him pointed towards the enemy. His time freeze does not damage or detroy the soroundings so theres no point to tie both his hands. The fight just felt so much like the Phenex fight in the nature on the unfairness of it. This is prety much what happens in the next rating game which ends up becoming a terrorist attack... Gasper uses his freeze ability along with Ise and they prety much wipe out half the oponents withought them even being able to lift a finger to counter. As for his teather and Vitra, Saji does not get his curse ability or Vitra until a book or two later when Azezel combines all the Vitra items into his body and revives Vitra in his sacred gear. As for emotions I think thats a bit of BS, basicaly your saying the other players resolution to battle are garbage and their just not up to par. Lets just take the battle with Phenex where the point that abilities disapear when the player is removed from the playing field, Kiba used his sword birth on Ise who boosted it and deafeated 1/4 of Pehenex evil peices but after Kiba was defeated it all disapeared. In that instance all the Rias' team was prety pumped up and determined since they knew what was on the line, and even then Ise was so determined that his Boosted Gear even evolved and applied all the power and spirit into gifting the sword birth. After the ability was over its also no longer connected to Kiba, its a seperate entity from him at this point. I'm still firmly on its a plot flaw on the the writers part. Its also mentioned that the rating games are held in a diferent dimention (Why causing overwelming and colateral damage is ok in these places)... if your removed from the dimention and returned to the real world it would make sence that you can not maintain an ability across a dimentional barrier, that and their more or less past out when your loose in combat. Yes Ise uses his mind reading ability later on but those are not rating games but actuall life and death combats. Rias does give him permision to use it in those cases. Its still a huge loss in a rating game. If a faction forfeits cause it chooses not to fight because the openent posess an overwelming ability then it would still count as their loss in rating game standings. Ise's new ability does not strip them naked like Dress Break does so its not like hes exposing them publibly.. mind you he still uses dress break a lot. Point is if their going to forfeit it makes more sence on the dress break ability then a mind reading ability if your only talking about being exposed.

2012-08-25, 22:43	Link #227
G147 Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: earth	@ccie20012 I agree on that. Well from the way Ophis describes the Occult Research Club is actually quite accurate especially for this [The cheap silver-haired older sister with poor character].

2012-09-12, 06:10	Link #231
Akumasama Feminist Join Date: Mar 2012	Congrats on getting the volume ^^. Thanks for the info, nom. Spoiler: I feel the power balance is quite skewed here, how come 4 of the top are Gods coming from Hindu mythology? And lol I was thinking that Ise's familiar would be the female dragon xD __________________

2012-09-12, 06:42	Link #232
n0m@n C-Z Join Date: Jan 2011	I thought I would get it on friday because amiami didnt send me a email. But I realised there was a ship notification sent to the spam box lol. __________________

2012-09-12, 08:05	Link #234
aswad Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012	@Nooom tank you for da all hard work

2012-09-12, 08:09	Link #235
Richocet Lover of Purity Join Date: Feb 2012	Thanx n0m@n Spoiler: So they didn't include great red in the ranking or what And a Ravel centered novel, seems like a nice read __________________

2012-09-12, 08:51	Link #236
NeutralZero Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Earth	Thanks... And it's kinda amazing that from second to the fifth place were occupied by Hindu Gods...

2012-09-12, 09:29	Link #237
blade82 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: you have to find out	thanx n0m@n but about vol.14 i tought it'll be centered around the magician and the vampire so Gaspar instead of Ravel