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To Aru Majutsu no Index - Light Novel - Old Testament (all Volumes)
This is a thread to discuss the To Aru Majutsu no Index Light Novel "Old Testament" volumes.
Please stay on-topic and discuss what happens in this volume.
If you want to discuss a related topic, please feel free to request another thread be created about that topic.
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2013-05-20, 16:04 | Link #2 |
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This title sound almost religious .
Something I wanted to say about this part is I think it would be good for new readers if we try to use massively the spoiler tag to separate talks between volumes. It could be bothersome though but could avoid new guys coming from Railgun (Assuming they find us) to get spoiled too much. |
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(apologies if this doesn't go here, not sure where I should post this with the new system and all. I just figured this would go here because the old testament is where we learned of Aliester and Heaven Canceller's connection.)
I'm sure somebody else has pointed this out before but because I haven't seen it before I thought I'd post it here. /Disclaimers So I just learned that Heaven Canceller is (likely) based off a real person, who was Aliester's doctor. From Wikipedia: Quote:
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2013-05-25, 20:10 | Link #8 |
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One of my wish is that when they do Index III, they'll somehow spin this story with Birdway and the Golden Dawn into an introduction story.... Similar to what they did with at one mini-arc for the start of Index II.
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2013-05-25, 20:43 | Link #10 |
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Was production rush? Yes. Was it average or worse? Absolutely not.
Even with a rushed production you could tell that they had more budget to work with and that the art and design has improved from the original- In general. Are there QUALITY scenes, yes- but so does any other series of this genre.... Unless you're rich as fuck like Sunrise.
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2013-05-25, 21:59 | Link #11 |
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if it is to improve something, I believe it has to prioritize the direction, the arcs were so were summarized, and so much thing was skipped, that for those who have not read the book so much was confused and meaningless.
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2013-05-25, 22:16 | Link #12 | |
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That's just trading one problem for another. You absolutely cannot not include every bit of detail from a novel into the Anime. No Anime can do that, not even the beloved Fate/Zero could do that (And it only had four books to work with). Then the question would be how much detail and which? That comes down to personal preference between what you think is necessary that someone else might not see it as such. In the first season people got bored after the first four episodes because of the prolong exposition scenes. While some of you think it's worth it, others might not see it that way and so it's just trading one problem for another and evening things out making it not worse or better, but just a different problem.
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need not be perfect, just explain things with dignity, the magic of amakusas was never explained in the anime, nor why spellbooks can not be destroyed. |
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2013-05-25, 22:38 | Link #14 | |
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What I mean by that is that your story can still go on without it, those are just tidbits. And lets not treat Anime watchers as complete idiots; most of them have the capacity to fill in the blanks themselves. Yes there are idiots who doesn't work their brains, but that's the case for all Animes regardless of how well or poorly the details are explained.
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2013-05-26, 15:16 | Link #15 |
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Another reason that the anime had to do things pretty quickly is that there just aren't that many good stopping points in Index. They had to rush in a lot of things in season 2 because volume 13/SS1 was the only real stopping point that would have had a big impact.
I am hoping they take their time and do season 3 and 4 slowly though, hopefully 14-19 season 3 and WWIII in season 4. The civil war makes a good stopping point as does the end of WWIII.
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I was like... how the heck did you figure all that out without reading any of the light novels? I had already read through NT 6... Some people just really get what is going on to an amazing extent even through just watching the anime. It's ridiculous, but true. Since he wasn't 100% right, I was surprised because he really figured it out. Since he thought IB was image breaker, he thought that esper powers were images projected onto the real world, which I guess is close enough. He obviously didn't read LNs if he thought IB was Image Breaker... it was really impressive. It's true that there are also people who don't get it as well. |
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2013-05-27, 16:54 | Link #19 |
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Yup, lets all remember that we ourselves were once non-LN readers, that didn't stop us from enjoying the first season.
After that when the LN got translated and became popular, we were more familiar with the great details within the story and then it became a problem when those details weren't always depicted clearly.
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So... a lot of opinions my friends have about Index, while seemingly correct... are all wrong... it makes me annoyed. The Light Novels really are super well done. Either way though, those friends of mine are what got me into Index in the first place... lolz My favorite series was FMP! I had been impatient for FMP! manga and read the last two light novels of the series to get the ending. That was the first LN I had ever read. I was totally enthralled with FMP! at the time (Sousuke's still my favorite anime character though...) Then my friend made me watch Index season 1 episode 1 when I was visiting his house. I watched it very reluctantly saying nothing is better than FMP!. It suffices to say I finished seasons 1 and 2 within 3-4 days Then I finished Railgun 1 within a week. (this was this past year actually near November). Then since Index 2 ended strangely without a main villain like my friend had thought there would be there... I looked online, saw there were LN's and then read all of them through NT5 by mid December. And then read NT 6 and NT 7 when they each came out on BT... The story of how long I've read/ known about index is about the same amount of time as how much time has passed within the Index world during the novels lol. Now, I still love seeing the other things and am enjoying Railgun s... but when I think of the anime... I am sad my friends are "uneducated" because they have not yet read the LNs. Therefore, I keep telling them about people like Gunha to get them to read . Gunha is one of my favorite characters. Even if he isn't one of your favorite characters... he'll win you over by using guts. |
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