Shakugan no Shana - Q & A

[ashlay]

Originally Posted by Xellos-_^

SO I was reading some of the entries in Wiki and I notice soemthing:

Alastor is listed as a Lord of the Crimson Realm

Miriham (aka Skelator) is listed a Crimson Lord

And you have others listed as Crimson Denizen.

So i was wondering if someone can explain what these actually mean?

as far as anyone can tell, they are nothing more than a power ranking title. for example, Hecate, Sydonay and Bel Peol are all considered crimson lords (Guze no Ou) just like Alastor/Tiamat/Marcosius/etc.

however, (to take an example from this season) Mare is considered a denizen. (Guze no Tomogara)

[X207]

i just decided to watch season 1 of this anime, my question is wat order to watch all the seasons/side stories. i dont want to go about unessarily spoiling the show.

[ashlay]

Originally Posted by X207

i just decided to watch season 1 of this anime, my question is wat order to watch all the seasons/side stories. i dont want to go about unessarily spoiling the show.

if you want to be safe, you can watch the Shana-tan specials and the hot springs OVA at the end of the series. (shana-tan is parody anyway, so it's probably best after you've had a full sense of the characters in the first season) OVA is after 13
(twins arc) if you want to see it then though.

movie is just a (arguably superior) retelling of the first 6 or so episodes (the Frigane arc), so feel free to watch that anytime after that.

[NoSanninWa]

The DVD specials are parodies so you should watch them just after the episodes they make fun of. That way they are funnier since the episodes are fresh in your mind.

Shana-tan is after episode 8
Shana-tan Returns is after episode 16
Hecate-tan is after episode 24

The OVA is best seen after the show is done even though it takes place a bit earlier than that.

As ashlay said, the movie is just a retelling of the first 6 episodes, but if you watch it right away you'll won't enjoy it as much because you've just seen the bloody thing. Watch the whole series first and then enjoy the movie since it will have had a time to settle.

[X207]

Originally Posted by ashlay

if you want to be safe, you can watch the Shana-tan specials and the hot springs OVA at the end of the series. (shana-tan is parody anyway, so it's probably best after you've had a full sense of the characters in the first season) OVA is after 13
(twins arc) if you want to see it then though.

movie is just a (arguably superior) retelling of the first 6 or so episodes (the Frigane arc), so feel free to watch that anytime after that.

Originally Posted by NoSanninWa

The DVD specials are parodies so you should watch them just after the episodes they make fun of. That way they are funnier since the episodes are fresh in your mind.

Shana-tan is after episode 8
Shana-tan Returns is after episode 16
Hecate-tan is after episode 24

The OVA is best seen after the show is done even though it takes place a bit earlier than that.

As ashlay said, the movie is just a retelling of the first 6 episodes, but if you watch it right away you'll won't enjoy it as much because you've just seen the bloody thing. Watch the whole series first and then enjoy the movie since it will have had a time to settle.

ty to both of you, im at se1e6 atm shouldnt take too long to catch up with the whole series .

[alvinkhorfire]

Originally Posted by NoSanninWa

The OVA is best seen after the show is done even though it takes place a bit earlier than that.

May I know what is your reason for watching OVA after the show is done? Watching episode 17 to 24 should not have much effect on understanding the OVA. The only thing I can think of is that the reason why Ogata was so desperate to confess to Tanaka at Episode 18 due to her failure to do so at the OVA. Correct me if I am wrong.

[NoSanninWa]

Just that I felt the rhythm was better if you watch it after 24. That's probably why they didn't make it until after 24. It certainly doesn't break anything if you disagree and watch it after 16. This is just a matter of the feel of the show.

There are much better reasons to watch the movie after the series is done. There is one particular difference between the movie and episode 6 which will have a strong impact on the experience of watching episode 24.

[X207]

wat exactly is a keeper? does it prevent ppl from forcefully removing the reiji maigo?

[ashlay]

Originally Posted by X207

wat exactly is a keeper? does it prevent ppl from forcefully removing the reiji maigo?

yep. that's it.

[X207]

Originally Posted by ashlay

yep. that's it.

ty, my guess as to how it was made was by breaking the synchronization with hecate.

[KaneDragon]

It's not a bug, it's a feature.

[Kristen]

Something's been bothering me. When a person burns out as a torch, they are forgotten and erased, right? To a parent, it's like they never had a son/daughter. But, what if the parent becomes a torch and burns out? What does the child think?

[ashlay]

Originally Posted by ChrissieXD

Something's been bothering me. When a person burns out as a torch, they are forgotten and erased, right? To a parent, it's like they never had a son/daughter. But, what if the parent becomes a torch and burns out? What does the child think?

they figure they're an orphan, or their parents sent them to live there, or something of that nature.

however, your confusion regarding the whole issue brings up the key reason why there are such things as Flame Hazes trying to uphold the balance of the world: even if you forget someone, there's still telltale signs that they existed, or rather, their lack of existence can become noticeable. As tomogara consume more and more humans, more and more logical inconsistencies start to pop up, and reality as a whole becomes even more damaged.

[Kristen]

Originally Posted by ashlay

they figure they're an orphan, or their parents sent them to live there, or something of that nature.

however, your confusion regarding the whole issue brings up the key reason why there are such things as Flame Hazes trying to uphold the balance of the world: even if you forget someone, there's still telltale signs that they existed, or rather, their lack of existence can become noticeable. As tomogara consume more and more humans, more and more logical inconsistencies start to pop up, and reality as a whole becomes even more damaged.

Of course. I guess it makes sense. Like a baby on the steps of the place.

[KaneDragon]

Haha, only now they have to figure out how to support themselves all of a sudden.

[zero7090]

can anyone tell me why does Margery want kill that silver flame tomogara that badly ?

[ashlay]

Originally Posted by zero7090

can anyone tell me why does Margery want kill that silver flame tomogara that badly ?

go watch episode 8 in season 1 or episodes 8 and 9 in season 2. In fact, Eita just mentioned why.

Silver took away the one thing Margery had in life: her revenge.

[Paul]

Originally Posted by ashlay

go watch episode 8 in season 1 or episodes 8 and 9 in season 2. In fact, Eita just mentioned why.

Silver took away the one thing Margery had in life: her revenge.

At least he gave her a new revenege

[Terrestrial Dream]

How was Reiji Maigo created in the first place?

[NoSanninWa]

Originally Posted by Terrestrial Dream

How was Reiji Maigo created in the first place?

Spoiler for novel spoilers:

That will be explained later in season 2. If you want to enjoy the show, then I'd suggest you just wait for the answer. If you really need the answer, regardless of the fact it is extremely important to the plot, then you may read below and it will spoil you.

Spoiler for real spoilers:

Hogu are created out of needs and desires. A Guze no Tomogara named Pheles fell in love with a torch, so to live forever with him she created the Reji Maigo from their love so that he could live forever. Read the Shakugan no Shana Terminology and Metaphysics Discussion Thread if you want more details.