Spice and Wolf (2nd Season), Expectations and Speculation

[ShiroiRyu]

Good first episode.
But how many lights novels have been out ?
I haven't really understand the last novels... With differents names. :/

[Masanori Ota]

Yay, raws. :3

[Mr. Anime]

i ll wait until its subbed^^


crap i just watched the opening... its the same feeling like being in love^^, i m getting rly nervous now
ASR KUROU HURRY AND SUB IT^^

[Vexx]

No speed subs please.... catch all those nuances

[sarahwest]

watched the 1st ep just now, was pretty nice to see horo in action again

[typhonsentra]

Oooooo, I just watched the new opening sequence and it has me nervous to watch this season, I thought it'd only go up to Volume 4, gah!

[ProdigalSon]

yeah looks like they are doing 3-5

[judgment26]

Originally Posted by ProdigalSon

yeah looks like they are doing 3-5

The opening doesn't show any characters from volume 4, and someone mentioned that the announced cast doesn't include any volume 4 characters either, so it's likely that volume 4 will be skipped.

[JThree]

Since this is a "speculation"thread, I thought I might have a theory about Lawrence.

My guess/theory/speculation is that Lawrence is the reincarnation of Holo's old friend who brought her to P (oh, the town she was living in at the beginning of the series).

Things that make me think this:

When Lawrence was with Chloe, the very beginning of the 1st episode, when she was making her "proposal, Kraft had a flash of Holo even though he had not met her yet. Perhaps in way, his "soul" was warning him to wait for his long-eared lady

When they were in the hotel, a few episodes later, Holo started talking about her friend and how he was a "good friend," and she "warned" him over and over again not to tilt his chair, which was what Lawrence was doing . Than she mentioned that she had forgot to tell him something.

It may be that every hundred years or so, the reincarnated Lawrence pops up again in Holo's life. So that while the WiseWolf doesn't die, he does come back every so often into her life.

Just a thought . . .

Please tell me where I'm wrong. Any counter-hints would be appreciated.

(P.S. I do hate the reincarnation concept)


JThree

[tyranuus]

Chloe didnt exist in the original material but was a re-imagining of a male character in the novel so that sticks a rather big thorn in the first part of your idea.

I think the whole point of the chair moment was simply to convey in a sense how lonely Holo was, and how important to her her real friends have been, to remember things they did even hundreds of years later, when there are so many details she cannot remember.
Holo, reading between the lines, has not had that many true friends or loves since leaving the north and her own kind, and that loneliness shows sometimes.

PS I'm sure one of the other threads (like Q&A) would have been suitable, this one has been dead over a year

[JThree]

Do you think (by the end of the series), Holo might be tempted to go "evil." And what I mean by that, is that one senses a desparation in her at times, especially when it comes to the subject of lonliness that might cause her to do more questionable acts.

In the first season, Holo tried to convince Lawrence to cut Norah out of her share of the profits before he said no. Our favorite wolf seems to have a procliity to be selfish; those traits could intensify and expand if things don't go well. Do you think she might go "bad" to get what she wants?

Just curious?

[Vexx]

I wouldn't rule it out (for her to "go wolf"). Asian literature is much more apt to go bittersweet or even tragic. There are heavy strains of the impermanence and transience of things, relationships, etc.

[BashZeStampeedo]

I wouldn't put it past Lawrence, either. The more he hangs around Horo, the more confident, manipulative, and daring he seems to get.

[JThree]

Does that mean Holo is a bad influence on Lawrence?

JThree

[BashZeStampeedo]

Not necessarily, since he was quite meek and trusting to begin with, a little more "evil" in his system might help him become a better merchant and increase his odds of surviving while he's around Holo.

[JThree]

Ok. Let me rephrase (for the sake of argument), do you think it's possible for Holo to go "totally wolf" to the point where she would slay Norah or enraged enough with Lawrence to kill or betray Lawrence?

JThree

[GoGetMyShotgun]

In the first season I remember Horo telling Lawrence that if her patience slipped with Nora she would not guarantee her life, mostly because she was a shepherd. That, and she took out that army entire army without batting an eye. So there is that "wolf" part of her that isn't above killing others.

But I highly doubt she would kill or betray Lawrence. At the very least, it's obvious she deeply cares about him and before Lawrence came along she's been stuck in Pasroe village with no company at all. I really don't think she'd try anything that would end up pushing away the only companion she's had in a hundred-something years.

[BashZeStampeedo]

Originally Posted by JThree

Ok. Let me rephrase (for the sake of argument), do you think it's possible for Holo to go "totally wolf" to the point where she would slay Norah or enraged enough with Lawrence to kill or betray Lawrence?

JThree

Who knows, as far as physical violence goes. if she ever lost control. In volume 4,

Spoiler:

she almost crushes him while in her wolf form in a momentary fit of blind wrath, simply because she has nowhere better to direct her wrath. It's unlikely that she would have gone through with it, of course, but if she even slightly miscalculated that sort of thing who knows how it might end.

But betrayal seems unlikely imho, except maybe if she thinks it will spare him a worse fate.

[JThree]

Expectations on the conclusion:

I'm not sure if the author will give us a traditional happy ending, but I have a hard time accepting a finale which Holo and Spice parted forever. They've gone through too much, not to have some sort of peace between them.

In what I've seen in the first two novels, and first season, it seems that the two have grown quite a bit together, and will probably mature more by the time the series ends.

JThree