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Mr Hat and Clogs · 2013-03-19, 00:22

Well, seems that they are going to patch traffic a bit. Forcing sims to take alternate routes to get to their destinations, regardless of distance if the road is too crowded. Doesn't fix the Highway entrance bottleneck though.

There was something else I saw tody that was also getting ixed but for the life of me I can't think of it.

Also, those free game choices are pathetic.

kk2extreme · 2013-03-19, 00:28

SimCity 3000 is still the best for me

Kyuu · 2013-03-19, 02:59

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Originally Posted by Mr Hat and Clogs

Also, those free game choices are pathetic.

It speaks:

Spoiler:

Flying Dagger · 2013-03-19, 03:30

BF3 isn't that bad of a freebie... except to enjoy the experience you need to pay for all the different xpacs which means EA is just getting more money out of your pocket...

Ak3mi · 2013-03-19, 19:21

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Originally Posted by Flying Dagger

BF3 isn't that bad of a freebie... except to enjoy the experience you need to pay for all the different xpacs which means EA is just getting more money out of your pocket...

Good old EA they know how to give there dying fans freebies

Mr Hat and Clogs · 2013-03-19, 23:56

I'll probably get DS3, but who knows if i will ever play it.

Friend pointed out that the games are either extremely old, or have DLC/Cash shops. I did find it hilarious that they'd offer SimCity players SimCity 4 though, I'm pretty sure the majority of folks would have that already.

Kyuu · 2013-04-23, 03:06

I have yet to buy this game -- as if that'll ever happen. As a matter of consolation, I've actually been playing the Facebook game. However, my slow butt didn't even notice the announcement until today:

Quote:

EA Shuts Down SimCity Social And Several Other Facebook Games

http://www.businessinsider.com/ea-ki...k-games-2013-4

And

Spoiler:

http://forum.playfish.com/showthread.php?t=2968221

To think, this news came a week ago.

Anyways, consider this as a guaranteed foreshadow to the current game. Others have made similar comments long before this. But, let's just say - the future shutdown will be swift.

And btw, I did not pay a single penny to play the Facebook game. I feel smart - and dumb (for playing it at all) - at the same time.

Duo Maxwell · 2013-04-23, 04:03

Isn't the current game still fine? They did say there are a millions of players anyway.

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2013-04-23, 04:32

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Originally Posted by Duo Maxwell

Isn't the current game still fine? They did say there are a millions of players anyway.

For a forced online game, having players is not enough. Without a subscription fee, they had to sustain themselves by selling DLCs. If the DLC sales are lackluster then it doesn't matter if they have millions of players.

It is one thing to sucker millions of people to pay for a bad game. It is another to tell the gamer to spend more money on that game after the fact.

Mr Hat and Clogs · 2013-04-23, 05:42

New patch did go a fair way to fix a number of the problems, which is nice.

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2013-04-23, 06:20

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Originally Posted by Mr Hat and Clogs

New patch did go a fair way to fix a number of the problems, which is nice.

That's like saying a badly made car finally had working breaks installed. Good luck to them, for the sake of those who paid them full price for the game. But I am not holding my breath they they could fix a game that never worked.

It reminds me of Napoleon:Total War. That game had massive AI bugs, mostly because the person who codes AI simply left the studio and never came back. He was the only one who knew how the game worked. Eventually the studio just gave up on fixing it and decided to focus on a new TotalWar game instead. They literally told their customers "sorry, we don't have the resources to give you what you wanted, but the next Total War would be better we promise".

As I say, the proof is in the DLC. If only a tiny proportion of players buy DLC, the game is doomed. We just have to wait for the numbers to see which way it goes.

Kyuu · 2013-04-23, 06:34

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Originally Posted by Mr Hat and Clogs

New patch did go a fair way to fix a number of the problems, which is nice.

Nah, I'll be aiming my money towards another expansion set to Civ V.

If EA wants my money, they'd have to rebuild SimCity from scratch. So, that means I'll be waiting on the next game -- IF -- it comes out and done correctly.

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Originally Posted by Wikipedia

According to a blog post by Maxis General Manager, Lucy Bradshaw, there are no plans to create an offline mode for SimCity (2013).

http://www.ea.com/news/simcity-updat...wers-from-lucy

Someday, this game will have its plug pulled - and everything will be gone. And just to let you know, I still have my SimCity 2000 and 3000 cities (if I want to).

Mr Hat and Clogs · 2013-04-23, 07:56

Well, they're trying, I'll give em that... but yeah the the hole they dug initially still towers above them.

New Civ stuff soon isn't there?

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2013-04-23, 09:44

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Originally Posted by Mr Hat and Clogs

Well, they're trying, I'll give em that... but yeah the the hole they dug initially still towers above them.

Another recent example of a broken, unfixable game was the FFXIV. When the core game is rotten, even throwing money at it can't fix it. Square Enix eventually had to abandon the game code entirely and start from scratch because you can't patch a bad game to make it good.

Mr Hat and Clogs · 2013-04-23, 10:30

Oh, wow, that's bad. I wouldn't say SimCity is that bad. The game is still somewhat unsound but it is playable to a basic or moderate level that can be quite fun for few hours. It's just a shame (and unsurprising) that the core features they were touting failed so badly initially their dicks came out of their collective noses. Despite that there are a few key systems which they have been patching, which were broken, like RCI and worker/shopper distribution. I'd say hopefully EA learns from this, but lets not kid ourselves. If they take anything from this, it will be the wrong thing - something like 'simulation games don't sell!'

This weeks Jimquisition about pasta would probably be kinda apt for this discussion in a way.

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2013-04-24, 09:48

The 2.0 patch appeared to have generated new bugs. Like trees that make siren noises.

All in all, the opinion is that there are MORE crashes and bugs than before the patch. That traffic still doesn't work, the sewers are over-flowing, and fire now burns indefinitely.

I think this proves it; Simcity is fundamentally broken in its basic code, and as such they couldn't fix it in any realistic way. Don't know if it is more or less broken than old FFXIV, but we will find out if it is still unplayable in 12 months.

http://www.reddit.com/r/SimCity/comm...heres_my_list/

Archon_Wing · 2013-04-24, 13:51

So they didn't even manage to get what a 15 year old game did right.

Derp.

JohnNiles · 2013-04-24, 18:08

That was an amazing thread. I have never felt as sorry for a collective group of gamers as I do now.

Mr Hat and Clogs · 2013-04-25, 02:59

That thread is gold, although I've never actually had the game hard crash on me. Although some of those bugs I'm pretty sure were there before 2.0.

Kyuu · 2013-04-28, 00:21

Hmm, interesting:

https://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ:EA

Looking at the 10 year graph... EA never recovered from the financial collapse of 2008...

2013-03-19, 00:22	Link #241
Mr Hat and Clogs Did someone call a doctor Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 40	Well, seems that they are going to patch traffic a bit. Forcing sims to take alternate routes to get to their destinations, regardless of distance if the road is too crowded. Doesn't fix the Highway entrance bottleneck though. There was something else I saw tody that was also getting ixed but for the life of me I can't think of it. Also, those free game choices are pathetic. __________________

2013-03-19, 23:56	Link #246
Mr Hat and Clogs Did someone call a doctor Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 40	I'll probably get DS3, but who knows if i will ever play it. Friend pointed out that the games are either extremely old, or have DLC/Cash shops. I did find it hilarious that they'd offer SimCity players SimCity 4 though, I'm pretty sure the majority of folks would have that already. __________________

2013-04-23, 04:03	Link #248
Duo Maxwell A Proud Lolicon Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: In front of my computer Age: 37	Isn't the current game still fine? They did say there are a millions of players anyway. __________________

2013-04-23, 05:42	Link #250
Mr Hat and Clogs Did someone call a doctor Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 40	New patch did go a fair way to fix a number of the problems, which is nice. __________________

2013-04-23, 07:56	Link #253
Mr Hat and Clogs Did someone call a doctor Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 40	Well, they're trying, I'll give em that... but yeah the the hole they dug initially still towers above them. New Civ stuff soon isn't there? __________________

2013-03-19, 00:28	Link #242
kk2extreme Your wife is hot... Join Date: May 2008 Location: At your house fixing A/C	SimCity 3000 is still the best for me

2013-03-19, 03:30	Link #244
Flying Dagger 大巧不工 Join Date: Dec 2003	BF3 isn't that bad of a freebie... except to enjoy the experience you need to pay for all the different xpacs which means EA is just getting more money out of your pocket...

2013-04-23, 10:30	Link #255
Mr Hat and Clogs Did someone call a doctor Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 40	Oh, wow, that's bad. I wouldn't say SimCity is that bad. The game is still somewhat unsound but it is playable to a basic or moderate level that can be quite fun for few hours. It's just a shame (and unsurprising) that the core features they were touting failed so badly initially their dicks came out of their collective noses. Despite that there are a few key systems which they have been patching, which were broken, like RCI and worker/shopper distribution. I'd say hopefully EA learns from this, but lets not kid ourselves. If they take anything from this, it will be the wrong thing - something like 'simulation games don't sell!' This weeks Jimquisition about pasta would probably be kinda apt for this discussion in a way. __________________

2013-04-24, 09:48	Link #256
Vallen Chaos Valiant Logician and Romantic Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Within my mind Age: 43	The 2.0 patch appeared to have generated new bugs. Like trees that make siren noises. All in all, the opinion is that there are MORE crashes and bugs than before the patch. That traffic still doesn't work, the sewers are over-flowing, and fire now burns indefinitely. I think this proves it; Simcity is fundamentally broken in its basic code, and as such they couldn't fix it in any realistic way. Don't know if it is more or less broken than old FFXIV, but we will find out if it is still unplayable in 12 months. http://www.reddit.com/r/SimCity/comm...heres_my_list/ __________________

2013-04-24, 18:08	Link #258
JohnNiles Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011	That was an amazing thread. I have never felt as sorry for a collective group of gamers as I do now.

2013-04-25, 02:59	Link #259
Mr Hat and Clogs Did someone call a doctor Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 40	That thread is gold, although I've never actually had the game hard crash on me. Although some of those bugs I'm pretty sure were there before 2.0. __________________

2013-04-28, 00:21	Link #260
Kyuu =^^= Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: 42° 10' N (Latitude) 87° 33' W (Longitude) Age: 45	Hmm, interesting: https://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ:EA Looking at the 10 year graph... EA never recovered from the financial collapse of 2008... __________________ Japanese Mahjong Group \| Currently Watching List \| Click on this - I dare you.