(L) Bakuman (TV) (All Seasons)

[Xagzan]

Originally Posted by larethian

@Xagzan
This might be a little off topic, and I'm saying this based on my knowledge, but everyone I know who has read both One Piece and Naruto agrees that OP >>> Naruto, myself included. There's no doubt. And most Naruto fans who think otherwise haven't read one piece, or have randomly touched a few chapters or episodes and based their judgement on that. The only exceptions I know of who truly have read both and still think Naruto wins fall under a particular demographic, like below 12 years. And I do love Naruto, but the awesomeness of One Piece just can't be explained in a few sentences.

Back to Bakuman, Oda is One Piece's author, and Toriyama is Dragonball's author.

Oh by this point I really only read Naruto and Bleach out of habit, and it's a guilty pleasure. I mean yes I mostly enjoy the story and fights and characters or whatever, but I'm under no delusions that Kishimoto and Kubo just aren't good writers anymore, and that half the time they're BSing it. But as long as I lower my expectations and standards, they're still fun, most of the time.

Still, it's nice to see when they get referenced in Bakuman. Something self-gratifying about it...

[kitten320]

I can't get into OP because of horrible drawings... looked through manga, too hard to read for me because of the way it is drawn as well...

Also OP is almost like new Santa Barabara... is the ending anywhere close?

Buy yeh, it is nice to see those references in Bakuman. Makes series more realistic.
I wonder if they needed permission to include all those names.

[-Sho-]

Mr Hattori is very kind , helping those young boys ! Nice . I'm interested on what will it be their final project !

[brocko]

^ I've always considered Hattori's character design a little goofy at times, especially those lips, but i guess that's where his charm comes lol

Originally Posted by kitten320

I can't get into OP because of horrible drawings... looked through manga, too hard to read for me because of the way it is drawn as well...

Also OP is almost like new Santa Barabara... is the ending anywhere close?

Buy yeh, it is nice to see those references in Bakuman. Makes series more realistic.
I wonder if they needed permission to include all those names.

I personally dislike the OP as well, the song choice i don't feel is upto par. The ED however is great and there's nothing much to complain about at all from my perspective, very much more upbeat than the OP

[larethian]

@kitten320
while I'm not an expert on this, but acquaintances who are graphic artists tell me that OP art is pretty good, the lines, the backgrounds, the expressions etc., only problem was the panels can become very cluttered at times. I don't really understand those stuff anyway. But I think what you dislike may be the art style, in particular the way the faces are drawn, I guess? It was the same for me, but I quickly get used to it and love the uniqueness (before FT started). I won't comment on the art since I'm no expert. OP has a lot of strengths, the main two being originality of the fantasy world (just mind boggling how the world works), and the way Oda plans his story using a macro approach across arcs and yet with plenty of details. OP is one of the manga with very few plot holes due to his evident macro and ironically detailed planning. Humor and parts which struck at your emotional chords are also nicely done. Battle-wise, I find Naruto to be better. But I'm the type of person who favor interesting stories over exciting battles however.

my guess is Bakuman authors probably already have gotten permission to include Jump's name, and the other Jump mangas' names before they started. However anything outside of jump is changed slightly, though it's obvious which of the real world 'stuff' they are taking on; one such example would be the seiyuu companies.

[brocko]

lol I just realised you guys were talking bout One Piece and not the Opening of the show with OP. ORZ...

[kitten320]

Yeh that's what I meant.

Well I disliked character design in Code Geass too, humans were seriously unproportional... but I did get used to them 13 episodes later...

Well will see, might check One Pice, one day.

[FlareKnight]

Have to say Miyoshi really adds a lot of personality into the series with her added time. A bit of a rough start but managed to break down Mashiro's objections to her being around. Though seems her relationship has some bumps to get through .

Hattori really looked horrible at the end of the episode . Though I guess he was trying really hard to figure out a solution. He did push them to draw a certain way and it was a disaster. Agree better to just focus on their strengths and appeal to a smaller demographic. Long as it's large enough and a dedicated following will still work out.

[Guido]

It's been a while, and I got far behind from the current episode rate, hence, I hope to reach to the current episode by the next week.

Spoiler:

This was a dialogue-driven episode full of emotions.

The highlight was Azuki crying in response to Mashiro about separating ways once graduating.

I completely related to Mashiro for how he felt towards Azuki, since the two have been together for most of their life but without exchanging contact with each one of them, and that made me think about how life is so fleeting and transient.

It put me everything in perspective that I cannot wait forever and just stand-still to see if anything comes happening to me. If I want to achieve my happines, I have to walk outside from my world and engage the real world to find it.

Now, towards the end of the episode the spirits went up high, since the boys are going big for the Tezuka Award, and Niizuma Eiji has entered the stage.

[kitten320]

Spoiler for 11:

Miyoshi and Shujin are more similar than they seemed at first.

Looks like that editor guy seriously dislikes Nizume Eiji and has huge hope in those two. Well I having such support, I won't mind them competing with Nizuma now. But that Eiji guy is one big weirdo... sometimes looks like if he just recently got from mental clinic...

[-Sho-]

Hmmm dunno what to think about the show.
I don't have anything about the romance but we don't have much about Manga's part , technic drawing etc.... and i thought that they'll make like their first work , an intro explaining the plot etc...
Well , next ep will be the same , drama romance between Azuki x Mashiro. Just date already !

[Lightningtiger13]

Originally Posted by -Sho-

Hmmm dunno what to think about the show.
I don't have anything about the romance but we don't have much about Manga's part , technic drawing etc.... and i thought that they'll make like their first work , an intro explaining the plot etc...
Well , next ep will be the same , drama romance between Azuki x Mashiro. Just date already !

I agree I am tired of there ridiculous waiting; although I am glad that unlike other series at least on of the main characters is in a relationship witch is a grand change.

This series is awesome and possesses a great amount of emotion. There have been times while reading my weekly manga of: Naruto, Bleach, Bakuman, Kimi no Iru Machi, Hajime no Ippo, and Kenichi that Bakuman comes up as the most interesting (witch as of late has been more likely than not).

Also just want to mention that I agree OP's Drawings while not actually horrible art just is way to strange and not in any interesting sense.

[tera_ha]

Originally Posted by kitten320

I can't get into OP because of horrible drawings... looked through manga, too hard to read for me because of the way it is drawn as well...

Also OP is almost like new Santa Barabara... is the ending anywhere close?

Buy yeh, it is nice to see those references in Bakuman. Makes series more realistic.
I wonder if they needed permission to include all those names.

OP will have an ending but probably not any time soon. it doesn't drag like many other animes and hardly has any fillers . there is a reason why it remains to be in top 3 in tv rankings in japan(for a very long time)

and well there are just animes u wouldn't want to end, for me , one piece is fun of them

anyways the discussion is about bakuman, i love this show, i don't mind it dragging because i just love the charachters and interactions between them

[Vicious108]

Is it wrong that every time Eiji is on-screen I am throughly more entertained than when it is the main characters? The guy isn't anything special yet, but he's a breath of fresh air compared to the repetitive endeavors Mashiro (who's incredibly bland and boring if you ask me) and Shujin go through.

Originally Posted by tera_ha

OP will have an ending but probably not any time soon. it doesn't drag like many other animes

Hahaha.

[kitten320]

How exactly OP is not dragging? It has more episodes than any other ongoing series 0_o

Bleach which is big failure now also in in the top so it doesn't say much, people just get too used to long lasting shows.

But yeh, that's not the right theme.


Actually the only characters I like in the show are Shujin and Miyoshi... Azuki and Mashiro are damn at the bottom of my list.
Even annoying Nizuma is more fun.

Was Bakuman really created by same author as Death Note? Death Note did have one or two annoying characters... but not almost whole cast!

[Kanon]

Originally Posted by -Sho-

Hmmm dunno what to think about the show.
I don't have anything about the romance but we don't have much about Manga's part , technic drawing etc.... and i thought that they'll make like their first work , an intro explaining the plot etc...
Well , next ep will be the same , drama romance between Azuki x Mashiro. Just date already !

Yes, the anime's focusing too much on the romance and not enough on the process of making manga. It wouldn't be a problem if it were good, but Miho and Mashiro are just unbelievable (oh noes, we can't look each other in the eyes or talk!). Thank god Miyoshi is there.

Furthermore, it's way too slow. 10 episodes and we're still only on chapter 13... at this rate it'll take ages to introduce the remaining characters.

[kitten320]

For real? Just chapter 13?
That's probably the most dragged adaption I have seen... how long are the chapters?

Even FMA was covering like 2 chapters per episode and chapters were quiet huge.

[Kanon]

Originally Posted by kitten320

For real? Just chapter 13?
That's probably the most dragged adaption I have seen... how long are the chapters?

Same as most Jump manga, 19 pages.

[Shiroth]

Originally Posted by kitten320

Was Bakuman really created by same author as Death Note?

Yes. It's obvious enough, i'm sure.

[Kallen4life]

How exactly OP is not dragging? It has more episodes than any other ongoing series 0_o

it's story is wonderful & excellent in an enormous 100% original 100% unique world and hasn't fallen apart like naruto/bleach (YMMV) .. I feel like there's not enough One Piece

however, anime adaption of marineford arc IS dragging badly, 1 episode = 1 chapter pretty much



also, yeah, I don't like Mashiro at all, Shujin is much better .. Eiji rocks too, as does the editor .. and Miyoshi .. Azuki is ok, but I want her to do some seiyuing