2013-06-17, 06:43 | Link #1461 | |
Lets be reality
Join Date: May 2007
|
Quote:
Oh and maybe don't make 9 other big games your "family" so that conflict doesn't arise, be smart about it. |
|
2013-06-17, 07:28 | Link #1462 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Age: 38
|
One could also be struck by lightning. Doesn't mean you should bet on it happening. It's obvious that's what Microsoft is betting on, but it doesn't make it a good idea. And don't assume people are going to buy it anyway, I know I sure as hell won't. It literally has nothing to offer me.
|
2013-06-17, 08:26 | Link #1463 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2005
|
Quote:
They can't even market properly because the people behind the scenes are terrified, and have no way of effectively communicating their ideas. And this is the least of Microsoft's concerns. They still might have to finalize their hardware, they still don't have mature development tools, and all of the games are going to be behind. The Xbone's ship date might slip to December, while Sony is teasing at a late October launch. Here's a good example of Microsoft's woes: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/di...-with-xbox-one
__________________
|
|
2013-06-17, 09:06 | Link #1464 |
Lets be reality
Join Date: May 2007
|
eh there's noway xbone outsells the ps4, the 360 is barely ahead of the ps3 right now and it had a lot of factors going for it.
* Released a year earlier * Lower price point * Superior multiiplat titles * Easier to code for * XBL as the definitive console online experience * Gears of War killer app (was much bigger than Uncharted early days) Now ps4 will release around the same time, is $100 cheaper, is more powerful, easier to code for, will have the superior multiplat titles, ps+ > xbl in terms of what it gives you. All Sony have to do is break even in America and they will beat MS. If the ps3 and 360 american sales were swapped around the ps3 would be the #1 selling console this gen. |
2013-06-17, 10:40 | Link #1466 | |
~Night of Gales~
Author
Join Date: Dec 2005
|
Quote:
Right now? Aside from Halo and Forza, I don't know if they have any other gaming IPs worth a damn. Gears has went down the drain. Even Fable's lost a lot of its early magic. I don't know if they have any real edge going into this war. If there's one thing, ironically... It would be the fact that the Japanese gaming scene hasn't transitioned well into the next-gen HD. Only the big studios like Square Enix, Konami, Capcom, Bamco & a few others are the ones who's really playing seriously in the next-gen scene... and because these studios also have a strong stake in the western markets, they're more likely to go multi-platform for a majority of their games. As most of the Japanese gaming scene seems content to focus in the 3DS/PSP/Vita market, the "Japan" advantage wouldn't be as strong as it used to be. ... Sony really needs to invest into more Japanese 1st-party studios.
__________________
|
|
2013-06-17, 11:10 | Link #1468 |
~Night of Gales~
Author
Join Date: Dec 2005
|
Your daily dose of quotables and PR nightmare.
http://uk.gamespot.com/news/microsoft-defends-xbox-one-500-price-point-were-over-delivering-value-6410352 Tl;dr Microsoft : You should be paying us thousands of dollars, so fuck you for not liking $500
__________________
|
2013-06-17, 11:11 | Link #1469 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2005
|
Quote:
I don't know if they have any real edge going into this war. If there's one thing, ironically... It would be the fact that the Japanese gaming scene hasn't transitioned well into the next-gen HD. Only the big studios like Square Enix, Konami, Capcom, Bamco & a few others are the ones who's really playing seriously in the next-gen scene... and because these studios also have a strong stake in the western markets, they're more likely to go multi-platform for a majority of their games. The PS3 is still a pretty popular development platform. Sony really should put their Japanese studios into better use though - right now they're still developing on PS3 (Rain, Puppeteer).
__________________
|
|
2013-06-17, 12:56 | Link #1470 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Singapore
|
Quote:
And yes, I totally forgot that this only applies to single player mode. Multiplayer still requires an individual copy. Then we don't know the restrictions on the "family list". Is the list permanent or do you have to wait 30/60/90 days to change the people on the list? If permanent and all the people on your list ends up moving out of the country/state and decided not to game anymore, your family list ends up being completely useless? |
|
2013-06-17, 14:01 | Link #1471 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2011
|
Quote:
I think sometimes people make very strong statements without the facts. Wishful thinking. |
|
2013-06-17, 15:00 | Link #1472 | |
The Dark Knight
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: From the deepest abyss in the world, where you think?
Age: 38
|
Quote:
http://www.policymic.com/articles/48...says-microsoft With the attitude they are displaying to me they are more than confident that they'll do good enough or even better than the PS4 despite all of these "noises" |
|
2013-06-17, 15:15 | Link #1474 | |||
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2005
|
Quote:
Quote:
As for better multi-platform games, the more powerful the console, the better the graphics are going to be. The PS4 is about 1.5x the power of the Xbone, so the difference there is pretty significant. Early on, Sony's superior development tools may make a difference as well. It's not wishful thinking - it's math. Quote:
Game studios aren't supposed to let on that a platform they're developing for has issues, but Avalanche let that slip a couple of weeks ago.
__________________
|
|||
2013-06-17, 15:35 | Link #1475 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2011
|
Quote:
I'm still waiting for some expert on the architectures to do a more technical and detailed review, and without bias. Yet without knowing the developing tools, there is no way to have a certainty about it. I prefer to wait for the launch and really see the truth of the matter firsthand. And not to be making hasty judgments about facts not too solids. Well, anyway I'll be on PC this generation. So long as they make games for PC, I'm glad. |
|
2013-06-17, 17:27 | Link #1477 | |
He Without a Title
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: The land of tempura
|
Quote:
* Yes, I know OpenGL is coming back in force due to Apple and Android but desktop-wise DirectX is still king.
__________________
|
|
2013-06-17, 18:30 | Link #1478 | ||||
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2005
|
Quote:
Quote:
Here's what Avalanche (Just Cause) has to say over that: Quote:
We also have quotes like this regarding the PS4: Quote:
In time, Microsoft might catch up to Sony, or even exceed them in development tools. But that's certainly not the case right now. And, in light of so many games at E3 not running on Xbone developer kits, it suggests strongly that the game studios are having a hard time coding Xbone games. And that this is in stark contrast to PS4 development.
__________________
|
||||
2013-06-17, 19:05 | Link #1480 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2011
|
Quote:
Well, I even believe that what you said may be true, but not with this certainty, based on this "evidence". I'd rather wait an impartial expert with knowledge of both development tools. |
|
|
|