2010-04-24, 19:24 | Link #9001 | |
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Six years ago, a young Battler told Shannon he would save her riding on a white horse. Battler never returned the next family conference. Shannon was heartbroken, because she, being a young girl, believed she could escape the island and become "human." As a result, to shield her from her sadness, "Beatrice" was born--an alternate personality which personifies Shannon's longing to escape her life on Rokkenjima and be with Battler. Shannon eventually realized that she was being silly, and got over Battler and fell in love with George. Beatrice did not. Thus, Shannontrice was born. Kanon, meanwhile, is his own person and Shannon's friend. The two form a close relationship, but Kanon has witnessed Shannon's Beatrice personality and is distrustful of "her." "Beatrice" and Kanon come into conflict once a game, almost always ending with "Beatrice's" victory. Meanwhile, Ushiromiya Kyrie orchestrates the fake death plot in an attempt to make Battler the head of the family, as a way to procure the money necessary for Rudolf and to relieve the pressure her family imposes on her. When Shannontrice comes into conflict with this plot, the two "factions" clash. |
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2010-04-24, 19:26 | Link #9002 | |
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And I think Ryuukishi's interview tells us something else too. If we try some chessboard thinking, it's very unlikely that Shkanon being the culprit is the actual full and final answer (just my own opinion obviously). In fact, if you try to apply pretty much any Shkanontrice=culprit theory, you'll find that it's nearly impossible to match it to every single one of the games. So even as confident as I personally am that Shkanontrice is true, I'm even more confident that it's not the final answer.
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2010-04-24, 19:27 | Link #9003 | |
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Which means he doesn't really want for those that didn't get the truth to forcefully rectify their mind, they need to earn it, by themselves. Now it's only a matter of who got the ultrarare item and who got the dummy one.
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2010-04-24, 19:30 | Link #9004 | ||
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2010-04-24, 19:37 | Link #9006 |
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Try me. As I've said in my last three posts and the big one you commented on, I'm fully aware that Shkanon isn't set in stone yet. Show me a non-Shkanon theory and I'll consider it (I'm speaking generally, not just to Renall). That's more or less the point of this thread, after all.
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2010-04-24, 19:38 | Link #9008 | ||
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So I'm guessing, in the same way that Maria's arc closed with Sakutarou coming back to life is that we won't really have any more story developments with them though. But maybe what they'll get, and almost everyone else will as well, will be some kind of reveal... In fact if you look at EP6 the character development seemed more on the meta-level now. And it may be Bernkastel who may get the character development with EP7. Once again the blue haired girl takes over as the main protagonist. And Battler is cast into the same hell Keiichi was thrown into. Supporting character. 8) Quote:
Anyways, I'm also trying to think of something but it's not like I can come up with something myself. It's best to borrow everyone else's brain. Last edited by Kylon99; 2010-04-24 at 19:53. |
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2010-04-24, 19:40 | Link #9009 | ||
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The only idea I have so far is this, but I'm still working on it. When Kanon opened the room to save Battler, he went inside as the red text stated. As he exited the room, he inflicted a mortal wound on Kanon. He did so because he had expected Kyrie to come rescue him, and he knew that if she hadn't that means something was wrong. Kanon died within the room, after setting the chain. Therefore, Kanon doesn't exist in the room. His corpse does. Yeah, it's a major stretch, but I'll think of something better. There's also "Kanon found the ring, which gave Kanon the title of "Kinzo," thereby excluding him from Battler's red." |
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2010-04-24, 19:40 | Link #9010 | |
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You don't have to completely give up on the theory, but there should be ways to attack it and still make the individual people important.
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2010-04-24, 19:44 | Link #9012 |
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That actually does work to cover the majority of the things covered by the Shkanontrice theory, but it needs some fleshing out. For example, who has the ring of the head at the time of the crime? EP5 seems to strongly hint that either Kanon or Shannon had it (though not outright proof, of course), but which one was it and why?
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2010-04-24, 19:48 | Link #9017 |
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I've always had some trouble with that, actually. I do think Kanon being Kinzo's heir is an incredibly interesting theory, but I don't see why becoming the heir to the head would actually give you the personal name of the head. There needs to be some explanation for that.
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2010-04-24, 19:51 | Link #9018 | |
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See, I take issue with that in that Kanon always opposes Beatrice directly in every episode in which the two come into direct contact. Therefore, I can't see a reason for him to take on her persona. |
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2010-04-24, 19:52 | Link #9019 | |
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For instance, ask which of these people believed Shkanon was true, whether or not it was:
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2010-04-24, 19:52 | Link #9020 | |
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Episode 6 totally flip flopped the position people were in on Shkanon in episode 5 when they saw Erika's meta adventures. If you've seen my theory that has some narrative consistency between both episodes in Chiru.
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