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Subaru-san · 2008-08-10, 10:43

Wow, that sounds great. Thanks for the information

vegeta172 · 2008-08-11, 07:37

So it starts this fall after all.

Eric10301 · 2008-08-11, 20:00

Sweet I'll be looking forward to S2.

LifeILL · 2008-08-24, 17:44

Preview of Kaiji Season 2:

http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=25246

Okay, I have pretty much read the entire Kaiji season 2 manga and here's what I think about it:

The manga is extremely well done, the tension is right. I mean it's ridiculously addictive. The problem is that I don't think that it will translate well into an anime. The first season of Kaiji was a great anime to watch because it had tons of variety. The games go from paper scissor rock to crossing bridges to E-Card and it has all sorts of inhumane things such as torture, cutting off fingers, electrocution...things like that.

Kaiji season 2 only has two games that Kaiji play. And these games are no longer simple games with simple rules. Kaiji starts gambling for real this time, he plays a dice game which takes up the first half of season 2. And this dice games has pretty sophisticated rules, no more simple "my-number-is-bigger-you-lose" type of shallow stuff. I didn't really understand the dice game all that well, and plus everyone was cheating their asses off, so it makes things more complicated. The good thing about this part was the villain, you think Hyodou was bad, wait till you see this bastard, easily one of the lowest forms of human you will see.

The second game Kaiji plays will in my opinion, not translate well into the anime. The entire second half of Kaiji season 2 is about beating a Pachinko machine. Yes, that's all there is to it. This part has tons and tons of dialogue about money, and just confusing stuff about how much money you can win or lose if you play this pachinko. Now, this isn't a normal Pachinko machine, it's one of those Godly things that's impossible to win at. So the only way to win is to cheat, and that's what Kaiji obsesses about the entire way, finding a way to cheat to this Pachinko. It's interesting, yes, but damn they explain a lot, and it drags too. Imagine an entire 6 volumes of Kaiji manga completely devoted to nothing but him sitting at a Pachinko crying and going crazy. That's what it is. And you know that Yakuza guy who goes to Kaiji's apartment to collect the debt in that first episode? Well, Kaiji actually teams up with him and develop a ridiculous plan to cheat their way to beat the Pachinko.

It's good yes, but it's not going translate well into the anime unless they reduce season 2 to 14 or 15 episodes. 26 episodes of beating a pachinko is going drag like hell.

ssfsx17 · 2008-08-24, 17:50

Hey, they made Akagi work. Compared to that, making Kaiji exciting should be easy =)

vegeta172 · 2008-10-04, 14:29

Someone has started translate the manga :P

reverse · 2008-10-24, 14:47

Kaiji live action movie in the works

Awesome news

huh, not so fast

Until you found out who play kanji

http://zepy.momotato.com/2008/10/14/...-in-the-works/

btw
Any new info on season 2

Subaru-san · 2008-10-24, 21:59

Yes I saw the news recently too, sounds promising. I wonder if they will be able to match the Anime and the Manga in quality. It's going to be hard when you are restricted to a short amount of time, but it can be pulled off, if directed intelligently. Hopefully if it is done properly it could spawn other Kaiji films. If we are lucky a good director will get attched along with some talented actors.

LuckyCat · 2009-02-15, 11:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by vegeta172

So it starts this fall after all.

I know, late reply, but what are you basing this on?

It's been so long waiting for the anime I had to pick up the manga and read through the second series

IAmTheMurderer · 2009-02-17, 12:26

Anyone have any good fanart or sites for more information on Strongest Legend Kurosawa? I'm very interested in learning more about the storyline and the protagonist Shizuka in particular.

gonzo562 · 2009-02-21, 22:31

kaiji crying all the time kinda pisses me off

karumofin · 2009-02-25, 12:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by LifeILL

Preview of Kaiji Season 2:

http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=25246

Okay, I have pretty much read the entire Kaiji season 2 manga and here's what I think about it:

The manga is extremely well done, the tension is right. I mean it's ridiculously addictive. The problem is that I don't think that it will translate well into an anime. The first season of Kaiji was a great anime to watch because it had tons of variety. The games go from paper scissor rock to crossing bridges to E-Card and it has all sorts of inhumane things such as torture, cutting off fingers, electrocution...things like that.

Kaiji season 2 only has two games that Kaiji play. And these games are no longer simple games with simple rules. Kaiji starts gambling for real this time, he plays a dice game which takes up the first half of season 2. And this dice games has pretty sophisticated rules, no more simple "my-number-is-bigger-you-lose" type of shallow stuff. I didn't really understand the dice game all that well, and plus everyone was cheating their asses off, so it makes things more complicated. The good thing about this part was the villain, you think Hyodou was bad, wait till you see this bastard, easily one of the lowest forms of human you will see.

The second game Kaiji plays will in my opinion, not translate well into the anime. The entire second half of Kaiji season 2 is about beating a Pachinko machine. Yes, that's all there is to it. This part has tons and tons of dialogue about money, and just confusing stuff about how much money you can win or lose if you play this pachinko. Now, this isn't a normal Pachinko machine, it's one of those Godly things that's impossible to win at. So the only way to win is to cheat, and that's what Kaiji obsesses about the entire way, finding a way to cheat to this Pachinko. It's interesting, yes, but damn they explain a lot, and it drags too. Imagine an entire 6 volumes of Kaiji manga completely devoted to nothing but him sitting at a Pachinko crying and going crazy. That's what it is. And you know that Yakuza guy who goes to Kaiji's apartment to collect the debt in that first episode? Well, Kaiji actually teams up with him and develop a ridiculous plan to cheat their way to beat the Pachinko.

It's good yes, but it's not going translate well into the anime unless they reduce season 2 to 14 or 15 episodes. 26 episodes of beating a pachinko is going drag like hell.

that sounds pretty boring, maybe they spice it up a bit with the games after that?
the pachinko thing sounds especially tedious, at least in comparison to season 1.

Proto · 2009-02-25, 13:05

Folks, who would like season 1 anyway? It's like, they play rock paper scissors for half the season. And then they go and copy paste themselves in the last part, they just change the names. (e card) FREAKING ROCK PAPER SCISSORS
[/rant]

Did I got my point across? ;p

k'2 · 2009-02-25, 16:14

Thanks for the info.

LuckyCat · 2009-03-19, 19:58

So there is a scanlation for Series 2 available now. I made a thread for it in the manga section for any here interested. Hopefully I can find someone else to talk about the ridiculousness of ぺリカ with.

Proudleaf · 2009-03-20, 14:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Proto

Folks, who would like season 1 anyway? It's like, they play rock paper scissors for half the season. And then they go and copy paste themselves in the last part, they just change the names. (e card) FREAKING ROCK PAPER SCISSORS
[/rant]

Did I got my point across? ;p

I did...?

I haven't really seen anything quite like Kaiji or Akagi; both shows exemplified the essence of gambling and pumped the psychological strain with endless amounts of cliffhangers. It may have been somewhat facile episode structure, but I can't deny that I was more hooked to both of these shows than anything else.

endy · 2009-03-25, 08:46

kaiji season two chapter 4 is up!

Gusatabu · 2009-03-28, 19:54

So, the new season gonna be about dice and pachinko (and anguish I presume).
Sure sounds dull, BUT REMEMBER FOLKS this is Kaiji! Expect nerve racking "zawa-zawa" induced dice and pachinko-action.

SuperKnuckles · 2009-03-29, 03:54

The animation studio made baseball intrigue very fun to watch in One Outs. They can tackle magical girl and make it filled with intense gravitas. ZAWA.

LuckyCat · 2009-04-04, 19:59

Yeah Madhouse did such an awesome job with the first series so I'm glad they're coming back. I recently finished translating Underground Chinchiro (the dice game) and while it's deceptively simple, the tension involved is as intense as you'd expect from the franchise.

Roll on, season 2.

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Proto Knowledge is the solution Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: St. Louis, MO Age: 39	Folks, who would like season 1 anyway? It's like, they play rock paper scissors for half the season. And then they go and copy paste themselves in the last part, they just change the names. (e card) FREAKING ROCK PAPER SCISSORS [/rant] Did I got my point across? ;p __________________ How to play Japanese games in Linux Last edited by Proto; 2009-02-25 at 14:05.

2008-08-10, 10:43	Link #601
Subaru-san Member Join Date: Jan 2004	Wow, that sounds great. Thanks for the information

2008-08-11, 07:37	Link #602
vegeta172 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008	So it starts this fall after all.

2008-08-11, 20:00	Link #603
Eric10301 Member Join Date: Apr 2008	Sweet I'll be looking forward to S2.

2008-08-24, 17:44	Link #604
LifeILL Member Join Date: Sep 2007	Preview of Kaiji Season 2: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=25246 Okay, I have pretty much read the entire Kaiji season 2 manga and here's what I think about it: The manga is extremely well done, the tension is right. I mean it's ridiculously addictive. The problem is that I don't think that it will translate well into an anime. The first season of Kaiji was a great anime to watch because it had tons of variety. The games go from paper scissor rock to crossing bridges to E-Card and it has all sorts of inhumane things such as torture, cutting off fingers, electrocution...things like that. Kaiji season 2 only has two games that Kaiji play. And these games are no longer simple games with simple rules. Kaiji starts gambling for real this time, he plays a dice game which takes up the first half of season 2. And this dice games has pretty sophisticated rules, no more simple "my-number-is-bigger-you-lose" type of shallow stuff. I didn't really understand the dice game all that well, and plus everyone was cheating their asses off, so it makes things more complicated. The good thing about this part was the villain, you think Hyodou was bad, wait till you see this bastard, easily one of the lowest forms of human you will see. The second game Kaiji plays will in my opinion, not translate well into the anime. The entire second half of Kaiji season 2 is about beating a Pachinko machine. Yes, that's all there is to it. This part has tons and tons of dialogue about money, and just confusing stuff about how much money you can win or lose if you play this pachinko. Now, this isn't a normal Pachinko machine, it's one of those Godly things that's impossible to win at. So the only way to win is to cheat, and that's what Kaiji obsesses about the entire way, finding a way to cheat to this Pachinko. It's interesting, yes, but damn they explain a lot, and it drags too. Imagine an entire 6 volumes of Kaiji manga completely devoted to nothing but him sitting at a Pachinko crying and going crazy. That's what it is. And you know that Yakuza guy who goes to Kaiji's apartment to collect the debt in that first episode? Well, Kaiji actually teams up with him and develop a ridiculous plan to cheat their way to beat the Pachinko. It's good yes, but it's not going translate well into the anime unless they reduce season 2 to 14 or 15 episodes. 26 episodes of beating a pachinko is going drag like hell.

2008-08-24, 17:50	Link #605
ssfsx17 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007	Hey, they made Akagi work. Compared to that, making Kaiji exciting should be easy =)

2008-10-04, 14:29	Link #606
vegeta172 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008	Someone has started translate the manga :P

2008-10-24, 14:47	Link #607
reverse Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008	Kaiji live action movie in the works Awesome news huh, not so fast Until you found out who play kanji http://zepy.momotato.com/2008/10/14/...-in-the-works/ btw Any new info on season 2

2008-10-24, 21:59	Link #608
Subaru-san Member Join Date: Jan 2004	Yes I saw the news recently too, sounds promising. I wonder if they will be able to match the Anime and the Manga in quality. It's going to be hard when you are restricted to a short amount of time, but it can be pulled off, if directed intelligently. Hopefully if it is done properly it could spawn other Kaiji films. If we are lucky a good director will get attched along with some talented actors.

2009-02-17, 12:26	Link #610
IAmTheMurderer There could be zombies. Join Date: Jul 2008	Anyone have any good fanart or sites for more information on Strongest Legend Kurosawa? I'm very interested in learning more about the storyline and the protagonist Shizuka in particular.

2009-02-21, 22:31	Link #611
gonzo562 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007	kaiji crying all the time kinda pisses me off

2009-02-25, 16:14	Link #614
k'2 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cairo in Egypt Age: 35	Thanks for the info.

2009-03-19, 19:58	Link #615
LuckyCat Wise Kitty Cat Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Diego, CA	So there is a scanlation for Series 2 available now. I made a thread for it in the manga section for any here interested. Hopefully I can find someone else to talk about the ridiculousness of ぺリカ with.

2009-03-25, 08:46	Link #617
endy aka kami Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: dicksville Age: 34	kaiji season two chapter 4 is up!

2009-03-28, 19:54	Link #618
Gusatabu Ganmen? Screw this! Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Sweden	So, the new season gonna be about dice and pachinko (and anguish I presume). Sure sounds dull, BUT REMEMBER FOLKS this is Kaiji! Expect nerve racking "zawa-zawa" induced dice and pachinko-action.

2009-03-29, 03:54	Link #619
SuperKnuckles Anime Hobbyist Join Date: Dec 2004	The animation studio made baseball intrigue very fun to watch in One Outs. They can tackle magical girl and make it filled with intense gravitas. ZAWA.

2009-04-04, 19:59	Link #620
LuckyCat Wise Kitty Cat Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Diego, CA	Yeah Madhouse did such an awesome job with the first series so I'm glad they're coming back. I recently finished translating Underground Chinchiro (the dice game) and while it's deceptively simple, the tension involved is as intense as you'd expect from the franchise. Roll on, season 2.