2009-12-22, 03:47 | Link #81 | |
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PC: Because of games such as Indiana Jones & The Fate of Atlantis, Monkey's Island, well you guess it. SNES: Shooters like Axelay, games like Actraiser, and Secret of Mana. AMiga: Speed Ball and moar point & click adventure games. Genesis: Streets of Rage, Crusader of Centy, Phantasy Star 4, etc |
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2009-12-22, 12:49 | Link #83 |
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Nintendo. Duck hunt ruled ! Everything except the virtualboy was excllent. To us boys' in the 80's nintendo could do no wrong. nintendo power was the magazine to be found in all our backpockets and book bags. Talk about full page game maps... especially for mario or contra. To us, Sega was exotic and strange... double dragon on the sega was no fun compared to nintendo. most sega owners eventually were left to form niche groups like Linux users had user groups. |
2009-12-22, 14:17 | Link #84 | |
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Let me say this though, considering on the XBOX360 is clearly the most successful software wise and 3rd party games just don't sell on the Wii. It is probably more interesting for 3rd party devs to go for the 360(though that might not be true there's a lack of data). Yeah, but never where the changes this big. The best selling 3rd party game on the wii is Guitar Hero III, which is ranked 12th. |
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2009-12-22, 14:27 | Link #85 | |
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If you played video games for the games themselves you would no better but oh well, lets just keep our preconcieved notions @benoit Look, the sad matter of fact is game development is a business, and in the end what platform to produce on and the overall quality gradient you have to compete on is dependent on platform espeically in the 360/ps3 vs Wii debate. here you have two platforms with two different standards, publishing on the wii is much more forgiving then on sony and msoft's machine, why? intial costs to make the game are less, there is no need to make your own engine when it comes down to it development costs are far lower on the less technically advance platform, the competition is about maximizing gameplay and what the system to do, which is a little bit easier then building your engine ground up and trying to compete in that essence. Thus when you select your platform, and because the goal is to sell copies, if you meet the minumum threshhold of "good" game quality on the wii, it will not translate to a good game on the ps3/360 due to the graphical and computational benchmarks of those systems. Just look at the Condiut, touted as the breakthrough fps for wii, when infact it's just the same geometrical rooms with the same enemy units and turns DC into a box of identical rooms when your supposedly battling through the white house and pentagon, yet still many claim it as ground breaking in the genre when in fact it is mere average. Why would people still try to mask a turd as a golden turd? Simply because of the lack of quality shooter games on the console, so in fact my argument isn't strawman since these two subjects are indeed intertwined. Condiut doesn't compete with kz2, h3, mw1 and 2 it competes with cod4 hence platform choice in development does matter and pertain to quality. |
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2009-12-22, 17:37 | Link #86 |
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Well, the Wii does have some mature games like Resident Evil, Ookami, Call of Duty, and so on. It's just that they don't sell that much, because people who own a Wii prefer other kind of games.
But it's not like Wii games are badly done. In the end, it's all a matter of taste, really. When I was a teenager, I preferred N64 over PS1 and Saturn, but nowadays I prefer PS2 or PS3 over Gamecube or Wii. I guess your interest for Nintendo games lessen when you get older. I still play my Nintendo DS, though. |
2009-12-22, 18:33 | Link #87 | |
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This was in 1986 to 1988 ! We were 9 and 10 year olds and I am relating the memories from then ! What the hell ? Get a grip ! You talking as if I am relating my current understanding of the systems now ? What the hell did we know about game play, system design, 8 bit systems and sound processors ? All i knew then was: Nintendo was it. Nintendo was hip. Nintendo power was the bible. Mario was the prohpet Bear in mind also most of us were comming from Atari 2600 systems and games like "ET" The sega looked too damn much like the Atari for some of us that were burned as grade schoolers. Ohh GAWD how I hated yars revenge... and PACMAN was nothing like on the arcade boxes at the mall. So the cure for that was seeing mario spit fireballs was the sweetness. Nintendo was grea and did not remind us of the Atari. Remember... we were kids ! Ohh... and we all thought Punky Brewster was a babe... I mean she was hotness. That episode where she built her RC car made us think of rape ! Ohh the memories... |
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2009-12-22, 19:57 | Link #90 | |
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2009-12-23, 07:01 | Link #93 | |
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I remember too when Mickey Mouse games like Fantasia and Castle of Illusion were the hip where I lived. Atari looked like something from the far past by that time. Last edited by Leo Keichi; 2009-12-23 at 07:16. |
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2009-12-23, 16:28 | Link #96 |
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Post those metrics, about third parties "generally" sell 100,000 of units, because I'm pretty sure maybe some hot title off vc might hit those metrics but then again I haven't fished through npd's in a long time since they refuse to include digital distribution in their metrics.
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2009-12-26, 18:18 | Link #97 |
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Got to say I quite liked Sonic Unleashed on the Wii, I thought the Werehog sections were fun if a little repetitive but they added variety. While I would like to see Sonic return to an old school 2D format I don't think they would still be making sonic games if they had not gone 3D and experimented. Sonic was brilliant in 2D and I think it would be good if they did a remake of the first 3 games using the Unleashed game engine.
I agree with Zetsubo though, while I liked Sega during the whole Sega vs Nintendo period. I prefer Nintendo now. Has anyone else found there tastes have changed as to who they liked during the Sega/Nintendo period. Anyone gone from Nintendo to Sega?
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2009-12-27, 06:40 | Link #98 |
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That is a great joke man. Do you know more?
Seriously, Sega was forced to insert Sonic, its mascot, into Nintendo games. Doesn't that mean anything? Sega was defeated three times in a row before joining the enemy. And the rest is history. Currently, Nintendo goes for quantity over quality and that indeed means more money, the only factor that matters in the trade. It may work for now but let's see if the gamers get fed up soon and turn to other games that actually pose a chalenge besides shaking your hands to clean windows. Timing the pressing of the button in Legend of the Dragoon. Filling the field in favorable elements in Cronocross. Desiding the best position and ammo to use in Armored Core. Now THAT was interesting and addictive. It took me two minutes to be bored with the shaking joystick of Wii games. No thrill, no anxiety, no planning at all. |
2009-12-27, 13:32 | Link #99 |
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I wouldn't be surprised if anyone jumped from Nintendo to Sega. At least Sega still experiments and from time to time releases something great (Valkyria Chronicles, Phantasy Star Portable 2,...). Not to say that Nintendo is bad, but they tend to keep to their established series and formulas when it comes to non-casual games.
Can anyone explain to me how I get to NPD game sales numbers? Their website is a maze. I have numbers from one year ago, but I'm not sure if everyone would consider that relevant.
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2009-12-29, 08:20 | Link #100 | |
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Having waves of garbage from no name publishers/developers didn't damage Sony and it won't happen with Nintendo.
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