Fate/kaleid liner PRISMA☆ILLYA - Episode 1 Discussion / Poll

[GDB]

Look at their powers.

[ukulelembo]

Originally Posted by GDB

As seen in the OP, Assassin is from Fate/Zero rather than Fate/Stay Night.

Assassin in Fate/Kaleid Liner is another multiple incarnation of Hassan like in Fate/Zero. Kojirou is not present at all.

[GDB]

Originally Posted by ukulelembo

Assassin in Fate/Kaleid Liner is another multiple incarnation of Hassan like in Fate/Zero. Kojirou is not present at all.

I'm saying it IS the one from Fate/Zero. Look at the powers. There's like a hundred of him in the OP. That was Zero Assassin's power.

[ukulelembo]

Originally Posted by GDB

I'm saying it IS the one from Fate/Zero. Look at the powers. There's like a hundred of him in the OP. That was Zero Assassin's power.

Assassin in F/KL manga has form of many IDENTICAL MALE individuals. There is no sign of female or children forms. So is not really sure if this is really the same Hassan as in Fate/Zero.
In any case:

Spoiler for for appearance of servants in F/KL:

Archer and Lancer are already dead/defeated. The only ones who appear in first series in person are Rider (Medusa), Caster (Medea), Saber Alter, Assassin (multiple Hassan) and Berserker (Heracles) as final boss for first season.

[Dengar]

What are the chances of two Hassans having the same ability? Isn't the entire point to that Zabaniya thing that no two Hassans have the same one?

[chaos_alfa]

Originally Posted by Dengar

What are the chances of two Hassans having the same ability? Isn't the entire point to that Zabaniya thing that no two Hassans have the same one?

No Hassan has the same Zabaniya. There are 19 True Assassins so there should also be 19 unique Zabaniyas.

[ukulelembo]

Originally Posted by Dengar

What are the chances of two Hassans having the same ability? Isn't the entire point to that Zabaniya thing that no two Hassans have the same one?

Originally Posted by chaos_alfa

No Hassan has the same Zabaniya. There are 19 True Assassins so there should also be 19 unique Zabaniyas.

I'm not saying that it can not be Zero Hassan. Just that there is nothing what could confirm it. His basic appearance is different, but his Zabaniya looks similar to Zero variant. And nothing more is stated about him in manga.

[Triple_R]

As a big magical girl fan, and as someone who enjoyed the various Fate/ anime shows, I really enjoyed that.

A good, strong opening episode with a nice blend of lighthearted comedy, bright visuals, and explosive action (mainly Rin vs. Luvia).

So the high-class blonde is named Luvia... I'm not familiar with her, but I love her character design. Her personality makes me think she's maybe a relative of Fate/Zero's Kayneth? Plus, there's the fact that she commands "Lancer" just like Kayneth did.

Anyway, I look forward to Episode 2!

[GDB]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

So the high-class blonde is named Luvia... I'm not familiar with her, but I love her character design. Her personality makes me think she's maybe a relative of Fate/Zero's Kayneth? Plus, there's the fact that she commands "Lancer" just like Kayneth did.

She's from Fate/Hollow Ataraxia. Since they'll never explain it in the series (at least, they didn't in the manga), and it makes 100% no difference to the plot whether you know her background or not: she's Rin's distant cousin. Very distant. Closest ancestors (twin sisters) are from 130 years before the story (the normal Fate story, at least, as they were Masters in the Third War - one went back to Europe, the other stayed in Japan).

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by GDB

She's from Fate/Hollow Ataraxia. Since they'll never explain it in the series (at least, they didn't in the manga), and it makes 100% no difference to the plot whether you know her background or not: she's Rin's distant cousin. Very distant. Closest ancestors (twin sisters) are from 130 years before the story (the normal Fate story, at least, as they were Masters in the Third War - one went back to Europe, the other stayed in Japan).

Thanks for the info on her. Especially since it seems she'll be a fairly important character in this anime.

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

Thanks for the info on her. Especially since it seems she'll be a fairly important character in this anime.

All you really need to know is that she and Rin are both mages with strong personalities who absolutely hate each other and who ended up going to the same mage-school, and as a punishment for doing something as-of-yet-unspecified, have both been sent to Japan with the Kaleidosticks. And... well... you could probably have gathered all of that on your own already.

Oh, and she's very rich.

[zero7090]

OMG LOLI

i cannot wait for dark skin LOLI kissu.

[Unknown Soldier]

Originally Posted by zero7090

OMG LOLI

i cannot wait for dark skin LOLI kissu.

You'll be waiting a long time for that, seeing as how it happened in 2wei.

In order for you get your loli french kiss, these things will need to happen:
(1) Silver Link completes S1 of Prisma Illya and keeps it good quality throughout.
(2) Lots of JP otakus buy lots of BDs.
(3) The world does not end.

If these things happen, its likely they will greenlight the 2wei anime. Then you'll just have to wait for it to air. Which might be anywhere from 1-2 years from now.

In short: don't hold your breath. Because that's not how animu babby is made.

[Sasukeuzi]

Originally Posted by GDB

She's from Fate/Hollow Ataraxia. Since they'll never explain it in the series (at least, they didn't in the manga), and it makes 100% no difference to the plot whether you know her background or not: she's Rin's distant cousin. Very distant. Closest ancestors (twin sisters) are from 130 years before the story (the normal Fate story, at least, as they were Masters in the Third War - one went back to Europe, the other stayed in Japan).

Also if I recall. They're both taught by Lord El Melloi II.
I was really hyped for the series but I've been brought down to Earth a bit. I don't like the camera angles used when Ruby is talking. It's like the whole thing is placed on her(?) when she's(?) talking. It's like all you get is FACE (metaphorically speaking since the subject is a wand). Could be easy to re-use whenever Ruby talks throughout the whole series .____.

[Seitsuki]

Is it just me or was Illya's voice in CP sooo much sexier?

I mean I guess they're two totally different characters in terms of maturity and all but...

[FlareKnight]

Well I thought that was a good start. Kind of sucks for Ilya that she gets dragged into trouble because her magical stick is a scammer . Of course lay plenty of blame on Rin and Luvia for not being able to put their frustrations aside and get their job done. I mean they were just reaching insane levels of danger with that squabble.

Some of the designs still feel a bit weird to look at like Shirou, but hey it could be worse. I think the premise of the show is solid and it should be fun to watch.

Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

You'll be waiting a long time for that, seeing as how it happened in 2wei.

In order for you get your loli french kiss, these things will need to happen:
(1) Silver Link completes S1 of Prisma Illya and keeps it good quality throughout.
(2) Lots of JP otakus buy lots of BDs.
(3) The world does not end.

If these things happen, its likely they will greenlight the 2wei anime. Then you'll just have to wait for it to air. Which might be anywhere from 1-2 years from now.

In short: don't hold your breath. Because that's not how animu babby is made.

Certainly the first thing is alwasy up in the air when it comes to anime. The second one should be possible since we're talking about a magical girl series starting Ilya . If the third happens, well damn I've been wasting my time .

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

*watches the episode*

What?! Hisui & Kohaku became wands??!! God have mercy on their masters’ souls .

[whitecloud]

better them than kyubei...

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by whitecloud

better them than kyubei...

Ruby totally gave me Kyubei vibes during her intro in the bath scene. Fortunately I read the manga before Madoka was created, so that didn't happen then.

[Guido]

If there was ever any magical-girl show for me to pick-up this year, then that would be Illya's Fate/kaleid Liner.

It will be something of a complicated from me to say that Fate/kaleid Liner actually looks to me more of anti-magical girl, yet magical-girl of sorts.

Ruby kaleid is the most cynical, rude, manipulative, sly, and verbally abusive, mascot and side-kick, magical companion in the annals of anime, but I guess that's how it is so much likeable by fans.
Poor Illya. Not only did she was put through much embarrassment (and given that such embarrasement would be a blatant crime in real-life) by Ruby, but she will have to fight against formidable foes.


Telling the truth kaleid Liner begs to say such obviousness: TYPE-MOON meets Card Captor Sakura.

- Magical-girls wielding magical sticks to battle and capture stray, TYPE-MOON, magical cards.

Nevertheless, it was an epic cutely first episode particularly those two: Rin and Luvia duking it out more like anti-magical girls, and would have been shattering little girls' dreams for magical-girls had not both Ruby and Sapphire said no more to the former magical-Hags' bickering and tantrum.