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[WILD_LION]

Originally Posted by Somethindarker

The evidence to the contrary is overwhelming. Sure they are loyal to Issei just like he is loyal to them, but for everyone in the group it's Rias > Issei hands down. Just because he didn't mention that in his blog doesn't change the fact that the author all but confirmed Kiba being in the harem in the afterwords. You can cherry pick all you want but what he said in the blog to us native english speakers, and some well read non-native ones, know the truth behind his carefull chosen words. It doesn't matter whether the girls accept it or not they very rarely accept what the other girls do, much less who is else joins the harem. Reading the novels and short stories there are many hints and situations that show Kiba is attracted to Issei, even Gasper. Here are just a few examples.
The Dragon-Flu short story.
Kiba wanted to go on a date with Issei.
He's been making lunches for Issei to eat.
Has asked him to eat lunch with him alone more than once.
Started giving Issei "intense stares".
... and probably the most damning of evidence;


This shows that Kiba has been giving him "sharp faces" and the line afterwards shows Issei is thinking about Kiba sexually, although even he doesn't know it.

You can believe what you want but the evidence is right there although in around-a-bout way.



Right now Vali by a looooooong shot. Although him being the "kin" of Ophis and Great Red as of now he has alot of potential for growth, Vali is more about skill while Issei is all about potential.

I am sorry, but i see other thing, I see Issei trying to help Kiba with Tsubaki Shinra to find love while had strange thoughts about the actions of his friend in SS.

The only 8 actual members recognised are:
Akeno Himejima
Asia Argento
Irina Shidou
Koneko Toujou
Ophis
Ravel Phenex
Rias Gremory
Xenovia

Like I said, the girls never will let it.

The author just write it for comedy scenes, maybe if you see that you say you are that class of man.

[WILD_LION]

Moving on, What do you think about Le Fay?

[Somethindarker]

Originally Posted by WILD_LION

I am sorry, but i see other thing, I see Issei trying to help Kiba with Tsubaki Shinra to find love while had strange thoughts about the actions of his friend in SS.

The only 8 actual members recognised are:
Akeno Himejima
Asia Argento
Irina Shidou
Koneko Toujou
Ophis
Ravel Phenex
Rias Gremory
Xenovia

Like I said, the girls never will let it.

The author just write it for comedy scenes, maybe if you see that you say you are that class of man.

Originally Posted by WILD_LION

Moving on, What do you think about Le Fay?

That's about the only thing that makes sense on your post, you are willing to accept Ophis as part of his harem who has shown absolutely no interest in Issei romantically and yet you see Kiba have many moments Issei himself acknowledges are romantic advances. You my friend are grasping at straws with Ophis and yet so quick to dismiss the evidence with Kiba. You haven't tried to disprove any of my claims and just say "the girls won't approve" and cherry pick an author comment which proves the point. Yea good idea move on, we're done here.

I see LaFey being his contractor, maybe some flirting. But that's about it. For some reason she doesn't strike me as a character with too much depth yet so I'll hold my opinion on her for now.

edit; Now I've never said that Kiba or Gasper will actually be lovers or husbands to Issei by the end. The chances of that are, and I'm being generous here, probably 1% or less. Being a member of a harem means they have to harbor romantic interests or feelings for the main character and actively pursue them so... from an story perspective both of them are in his harem.

[GrrDraxin]

Originally Posted by whitecloud

if ise want to be stronger ise need to learn rentanjutsu....THEN ise will be trully invinsible....no woman will be able to defeat ise in his range of touch

Uhm, what is this "rentanjutsu"? I looked it up, and it may be part of the alchemy system of FMA. Isse is no alchemist, and I don't think those even exist in DxD, and even if they did, we don't know of any... friends or foes. Please elaborate.

[Somethindarker]

Originally Posted by GrrDraxin

Uhm, what is this "rentanjutsu"? I looked it up, and it may be part of the alchemy system of FMA. Isse is no alchemist, and I don't think those even exist in DxD, and even if they did, we don't know of any... friends or foes. Please elaborate.

xD Dude I think he was either messing with us or was an inside joke so deep he's the only one that got it.

[ReaperxKingx]

Originally Posted by Somethindarker

xD Dude I think he was either messing with us or was an inside joke so deep he's the only one that got it.

Full Metal Alchemist, that should be give you a bit of a clue.

[WILD_LION]

Originally Posted by Somethindarker

That's about the only thing that makes sense on your post, you are willing to accept Ophis as part of his harem who has shown absolutely no interest in Issei romantically and yet you see Kiba have many moments Issei himself acknowledges are romantic advances. You my friend are grasping at straws with Ophis and yet so quick to dismiss the evidence with Kiba. You haven't tried to disprove any of my claims and just say "the girls won't approve" and cherry pick an author comment which proves the point. Yea good idea move on, we're done here.

I see LaFey being his contractor, maybe some flirting. But that's about it. For some reason she doesn't strike me as a character with too much depth yet so I'll hold my opinion on her for now.

edit; Now I've never said that Kiba or Gasper will actually be lovers or husbands to Issei by the end. The chances of that are, and I'm being generous here, probably 1% or less. Being a member of a harem means they have to harbor romantic interests or feelings for the main character and actively pursue them so... from an story perspective both of them are in his harem.

For me, every member inside the Issei harem is a future recognized wife for each fraction, that is the reason i only see kiba and gasper as friends, and about ophis, because due to her actions, it is actually possible that Ophis harbors some sort of emotions towards Issei. This is only implied when Issei death, the date with Issei and Rias is mentioned, where even Ophis seemed willing to go on a date with Issei. And take the place of Koneko to sit over Issei, This may even show that she may see the other members of the group as rivals. However, there isn't much to go on with only those factors. But i expect she will has her own arc in the future.

About Le Fay, I think that she will has an important role in the future.

[Chris38]

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Regarding Ophis, even if she does have some emotions for Ise, it doesn't reduce the two squick factors that this paring involves:

1.) That she is the "mother" of Ise's current body, due to being involved in his resurrection - meaning that, if Ise develops some romantic relationship with Ophis, it would be something similar to incest.

2.) She's ... genderless ... and there is nothing preventing her, to suddenly transform her form, into a man ... like she did before.

Regarding Le Fay, personally I don't see her having any super important roles, considering how many main characters still need some development (she's ... at the very least a secondary character)

She might have some more scenes, in the arc that involves the magician fraction, but that's pretty much the only thing that I see her doing, when it comes to the main plot of the story.

[GrrDraxin]

Originally Posted by Somethindarker

xD Dude I think he was either messing with us or was an inside joke so deep he's the only one that got it.

Unless it's not actually related to FMA...

Originally Posted by ReaperxKingx

Full Metal Alchemist, that should be give you a bit of a clue.

I've never gotten into the series so the clues are useless. Besides, I can't think of anything it would do to benefit Ise, unless it's to learn something to get girls so horny they would jump(if you know what I mean, tee hee) any nearby male they can grab hold of. Otherwise, Ise has pretty much all that stuff covered. Though a technique that incapacitates an opponent in the throws of pleasure instead of writhing in pain seems like the next logical step for him in those techniques.

[Voceane]

It's seems that the cover on BT for the Normal edition is wrong

[ReaperxKingx]

Originally Posted by Voceane

It's seems that the cover on BT for the Normal edition is wrong

Little Akeno, she is so cute.

[Chris38]

Originally Posted by Voceane

It's seems that the cover on BT for the Normal edition is wrong

Nope, since each of the recent volumes of Highschool DxD contains an outside cover (the one posted on BT) and a inside cover, which is the one you posted.

Here's the proof ... this is the inside cover of volume 14:

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Apart from that, it's a pretty nice picture.

[blade82]

someone said that only a girl on the book cover will be in Ise's harem then what about the vol.15 with the Sitri sister

[WILD_LION]

Originally Posted by Chris38

^

Regarding Ophis, even if she does have some emotions for Ise, it doesn't reduce the two squick factors that this paring involves:

1.) That she is the "mother" of Ise's current body, due to being involved in his resurrection - meaning that, if Ise develops some romantic relationship with Ophis, it would be something similar to incest.

2.) She's ... genderless ... and there is nothing preventing her, to suddenly transform her form, into a man ... like she did before.

Regarding Le Fay, personally I don't see her having any super important roles, considering how many main characters still need some development (she's ... at the very least a secondary character)

She might have some more scenes, in the arc that involves the magician fraction, but that's pretty much the only thing that I see her doing, when it comes to the main plot of the story.

Ophis gave her power to Issei wake up, not her blood and body(It is from True Dragon)

In this moments, I see ophis as a entity(no gender, not is man and not is woman) ophis just changes appearance, but by the personality and aspect they decide see Ophis as a woman who dont know anything about emotions or feelings, but it start to learning, going with Issei everywhere.

Maybe with a DxD miracle Issei makes Ophis a complete Woman, touching ophis oppai making big it at the same time. jajajajaj, it is just an idea.

[WILD_LION]

Originally Posted by blade82

someone said that only a girl on the book cover will be in Ise's harem then what about the vol.15 with the Sitri sister

The author said it, i dont remember where but he said it.
About Sona, the author said that he also will begin to concentrate in the subheroines, i mean Sona, Le Fay and Kuroka. Maybe this 3 girls will begin to create feelings for Issei.....

[ReaperxKingx]

Originally Posted by blade82

someone said that only a girl on the book cover will be in Ise's harem then what about the vol.15 with the Sitri sister

If that is true, Gremory and Sitri clan will have a big conflict in their hands. The politics of the High Class Devil will be in Chaos, if is it isn't already. Ise pretty much turns heads already up there since vol 2.

[Somethindarker]

@Wild_Lion I agree. He won't be romantically linked or anything. But when taking a step back from the story he is considered part of the harem. Ophis looks at Issei like he's part of her kin, she follows him around because he's familiar to her and is her first friend. Ophis is constantly going with the flow on anything, she went with Rias and Issei to the mall not because she wanted to buy underwear and day to day items but because she goes with the flow. Don't know why people are sayin Ophis is going to have another arc, the ones due an arc are Ravel(vol.12-14), Gasper, Xenovia, Irina and Rossweisse(Vol.16-17). For the next 8-10 volumes Ophis is gonna be put in the back burner character development wise.

@ blade82 Yea, I don't think the author cares anymore about the cover girls being in his harem, Ophis was on the cover and she's confirmed friend-zoned/mascotted since her arc ended.

[WILD_LION]

Originally Posted by Somethindarker

@Wild_Lion I agree. He won't be romantically linked or anything. But when taking a step back from the story he is considered part of the harem. Ophis looks at Issei like he's part of her kin, she follows him around because he's familiar to her and is her first friend. Ophis is constantly going with the flow on anything, she went with Rias and Issei to the mall not because she wanted to buy underwear and day to day items but because she goes with the flow. Don't know why people are sayin Ophis is going to have another arc, the ones due an arc are Ravel(vol.12-14), Gasper, Xenovia, Irina and Rossweisse(Vol.16-17). For the next 8-10 volumes Ophis is gonna be put in the back burner character development wise.

@ blade82 Yea, I don't think the author cares anymore about the cover girls being in his harem, Ophis was on the cover and she's confirmed friend-zoned/mascotted since her arc ended.

For me ophis will will have an important role in the future VOLS, because her STOLEN power will be so important in the future.

[Somethindarker]

Originally Posted by WILD_LION

For me ophis will will have an important role in the future VOLS, because her STOLEN power will be so important in the future.

Maybe, but then again who knows if the power will be used for a clone or as a power up for the new leader of KB. Personally I don't think the power will be given back, the author likes her as a mascot and I doubt a full powered Ophis will be allowed to live by the 3 factions. We'll see the author has changed his mind in the past so maybe Ophis will get some screen time in the future. Nothing is impossible.

[blade82]

Ophis can give it to Ise and Vali maybe