I noticed in this episode a.f.k overwrites the japanese characters completely maybe to make the text more readable. Well, I don't mind There seems to be some guest seiyuu in this ep for computer guys.
Haruhi's efficiency and ruthlessness in achieving her goals make many of our world leaders look like angels in comparison.
That's it! That's the word I was looking for to describe Haruhi's action in this episode: ruthless. She basically presses on regardless how others may suffer because of it. She's still a fun character but it's hard not to feel sorry for the others while she steps on them to do her bidding.
Aha! so we get into the meat of the series! So let's get the petty stuff out of the way first. I throughly enjoyed the episode, there was some pacing issues that some of you have noted about, but I didn't notice it as much (maybe because I haven't actually read the novels yet...)
Spoiler for Assumptions, Predictions and all that Good Stuff:
i'm beginning to think that maybe episode 00 was an introduction to the characters after all since Yuki has blatantly told Kyon that she's an alien (possibly a magician too) and Mikuru mumbled something about time planes. In keeping with the recent trend we could assume that Itsuki will probably be a hidden Esper and Tsuyura could be a mind-controlled zombie who comes out of her character to laugh at Mikuru...ok well maybe not.
Animation is again top notch, especially the alien encounter glow that sets the mysterious mood in Yuki's apartment. Also, Haruhi's ability to smile cutely while extorting the computer research club is simply gold.
Ok now for the parts that could get me in trouble in which I will spoiler so that those who choose to avoid my thoughts can do so
Spoiler for oh noes trouble ahead!:
Ok I have to admit that the extortion of the computer research club was kind of cruel upon Mikuru. HOWEVER I don't feel sorry for Mikuru, my reasoning as follows:
Spoiler for dual layer protection power!:
To me, Mikuru is simply a tool to build upon Haruhi's character. Reason being is that her character never changes regardless of the abuse she takes from Haruhi. Quite literally, Mikuru alternates from:
1. Mikuru is Cute
2. Mikuru is Crying
Because of her static behaviour, this leads me to believe that her purpose in the story is to further other characters...in other words, a tool. In a more elegant way of saying it, a literary device.
Keep in mind that this is creative work, where ethics and morals need not necessarily apply. If we were to be self-righteous, there would be many complaints about how killing/imprisoning/kidnapping/blahblahblah a sub-character to further the character development of a main character is unethical and morally wrong.
Also, Eclipze I don't think your example is very fitting of Haruhi's character as the intent to harm is already inherent in the action. Regardless if you didn't mean to harm someone else, the intent to harm is already present in that case. In Haruhi's case, she's more like a child trying to get your attention by pulling the tail of a cat who is clearly not enjoying the aggrivation. You (for example are the owner of the cat) aren't very happy since the child is basically torturing your cat, so you scold them. Mission success for the child as (s)he has obtained your attention now.
Speaking of which: @TheLastGuardian & Melange
Spoiler:
a little preamble beforehand: Damn you Melange, I clicked on your spoiler! Anyways, I'm not too sure of the context on your ch2 example, but could we consider that as reckless as Haruhi is to the feelings of everyone around her, Kyon is as reckless towards Haruhi's feelings? This is an assumption based on the narration that kind of villifies Haruhi whenever possible and that after Kyon's "trigger" Haruhi seems to attempt to grab Kyon's attention whenever possible.
Forget Mikurui. I'll take Yuki, she can take me to her apartment and make me tea any time.
Tea FTW!!!
I definitely feel that Haruhi is attracted to Kyon but I somehow feel I've missed why she suddenly became interested in him. Was it, as is seems, purely because he showed some interest in her and took the time to talk to her? Kyon is curios about Haruhi but has not show any real romantic interest in her.
I've warmed to Kyon's character, particularly his honesty when he said he sort of want to see Mikurui in the bunny costume. It seemed a very human reaction and he did not gloss over his failing. He always seem to think and react how I know I probably would, for better or worse. To be honest Haruhi would be fun to be around and I can imagine secretly enjoying being dragged around by Haruhi and her wild plans.... and why not, it certainly wouldn't be boring. We need more Haruhi's in the world!!
Actually there is a young girl I know who started an anime club and tends to want to rope me into things like plays.... (at my age!)
She is a good girl (with a bit of a temper) but I think I might start calling her Haruhi.
could we consider that as reckless as Haruhi is to the feelings of everyone around her, Kyon is as reckless towards Haruhi's feelings?
Since you are spoiled already, why not go the whole way.
Spoiler for analysis:
Yes, yes. You got it. That is the corresponding effect- a product that catalysis Haruhi's erratic behaviour.
Kyon views(ed) Haruhi as a problem to contain and solve, not as a human being who, as nutty as she is, has her weaknesses. As (we)he will see throughout the stories, this is probably the worst thing he can do.
Trust me when I say this leads to a lot of unnecessary troubles.
Spoiler for heavy novel oriented:
But it is his inconsideratecy that scores him a ____, so I say his troubles are worth every cents.
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Originally Posted by dan88
Was it, as is seems, purely because he showed some interest in her and took the time to talk to her? Kyon is curios about Haruhi but has not show any real romantic interest in her.
Spoiler for short answer:
Yes...mostly...something else also...
Spoiler:
remember what she said when they first talked.
Edit: Oppsie, no harm done
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Ah it makes sense now, but I swear this is the last time I'll be spoiled! Thanks for the insight!
Oh and you might want to complete my spoiler tag, I don't want to be peppered even more because of spoiling than I'm gonna be after my comments on Mikuru
I can't believe how many sadistic individuals watch this series
Sadism is part and parcel of a lot of humor Look at those cartoons like Bugs Bunny, Loderunner etc. Look at moments in anime such as Magikano (poor Haruo) and Love Hina (Keitaro being sent into orbit by Naru). Look at the many jokes that are commonly told; a lot of them predicate at least one poor individual or group who ends up being laughed at. It can be said that in indulging in humor we are all sadistic to some degree
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Originally Posted by dan88
Actually there is a young girl I know who started an anime club and tends to want to rope me into things like plays.... (at my age!)
She is a good girl (with a bit of a temper) but I think I might start calling her Haruhi.
Is she watching this show?
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"Every man has two countries, his own and France" - Attributed to Thomas Jefferson
Was it, as is seems, purely because he showed some interest in her and took the time to talk to her? Kyon is curios about Haruhi but has not show any real romantic interest in her.
Spoiler for short answer:
Yes...mostly...something else also...
Spoiler:
remember what she said when they first talked.
mmmmm...... I see. It makes sense based on where the show seem to be going in Ep3.
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Originally Posted by melange
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Originally Posted by dan88
Actually there is a young girl I know who started an anime club and tends to want to rope me into things like plays.... (at my age!)
She is a good girl (with a bit of a temper) but I think I might start calling her Haruhi.
Is she watching this show?
I will give her a copy of anime and teasingly suggest there is a similarity.
I will give her a copy of anime and teasingly suggest there is a similarity.
*lay flowers at dan88 tomestone*
I hope you rest in peace, and may your soul find forgiveness as haruhi will find forgiveness for you....after she had her way with as well as that lass who sent you to her.
I hope you rest in peace, and may your soul find forgiveness as haruhi will find forgiveness for you....after she had her way with as well as that lass who sent you to her.
Its more likely that Haruhi wouldn't care less... "dan88? Who's that? Oh it doesn't matter!"
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"Every man has two countries, his own and France" - Attributed to Thomas Jefferson
Like always, the dead had all the answers I was missing. It wasn't that they weren't eager to talk. Quite the contrary. The dead had plenty to say. And once they started, they would never shut up. Their words would keep you awake at night.
Just as Max Payne's narriation describes, the dead answers alot more than the live. Here's to another self-narriator!
Wow! Haruhi sure is a wicked evil bitch and she is really! enjoyable to watch
Poor Mikuru I dont know what I'm more sad about, the fact her character doesn't have a huge backbone to it and is kinda simple >.> (though mabye they might expand on her character a bit..) or that she gets kick around by queen bitch >.>
Well I love Kyon voice, though I wish his character was a bit less go with flow of things and didn't have the same tone of voice nearly all! of the time. Even though I would rather a few things to be different, he is still enjoyable to watch This Episode was ok but still ep.1 is the best in the show, I would love! to see more of the filming process with the characters ^^
ok that blackmailing of the computer club had to be one of the most cruelist things i have seen in a long time (even though i laughed through the whole thing) Those poor bastards didnt even have a chance to log off their porn. Suzumiya is a force you hope doesnt notice you and just strolls by. You know that saying you've called down the thunder now reap the whirlwind well in this case she ismore like a hurrican the likes the world has never seen. She does treat people like tools i mean when Asahina said if i become ruined marriage will your take me almost broke my heart. But she started talking about timelines and stuff could she be from the future and Nagato telllng Kyon shes an alien (by the way what was up with all the tea) I think this series is just going to get wilder from here. Im also voting Suzumiya as the cutest tyrant ever even watching her for some reason reminds me of watching the history channel about Hitler's SS
Location: From the deepest abyss in the world, where you think?
Age: 38
I dunno guys, I couldn't help but just laugh at the entire episode. If I vote good for this episode and laugh at Haruhi's antics, does that make me a bad person?
Ah, I should add something about this episode too. Er... um... ah...
Am I the only one who thinks Yuki's hands are very sexy? ^^;;
hmm hand fetish eh?
Personally I'm a fan of Haruhi hands (No I'm not biased)
But a cookie to whoever can answer correctly on how Haruhi gets such <insert adjective> feminine fingers (if she were real.)
There seems to be some guest seiyuu in this ep for computer guys.
Scanlator
I dont know what I'm more sad about, the fact her character doesn't have a huge backbone to it and is kinda simple >.> (though mabye they might expand on her character a bit..) or that she gets kick around by queen bitch >.>
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